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	<title>Comments on: Gestures, Mobile Music, and the &#8220;Low Floor&#8221; for Novices: ZooZBeat on iPhone, Nokia</title>
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		<title>By: iPhone Roundup: Field Recording, DJ Tools, Odd iInstruments, Cinco de Mayo &#171; Music Tools</title>
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		<dc:creator>iPhone Roundup: Field Recording, DJ Tools, Odd iInstruments, Cinco de Mayo &#171; Music Tools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gestures, Mobile Music, and the “Low Floor” for Novices: ZooZBeat on iPhone, Nokia [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Create Digital Music &#187; iPhone Roundup: Field Recording, DJ Tools, Odd iInstruments, Cinco de Mayo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Create Digital Music &#187; iPhone Roundup: Field Recording, DJ Tools, Odd iInstruments, Cinco de Mayo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gestures, Mobile Music, and the “Low Floor” for Novices: ZooZBeat on iPhone, Nokia [...]</description>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-11-12 &#171; Brain Music</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2008-11-12 &#171; Brain Music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Create Digital Music Â» Gestures, Mobile Music, and the â€œLow Floorâ€ for Novices: ZooZBeat on iPh... (tags: mobilemusic music) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: rhowaldt</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhowaldt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i need the Music Shaper-balls for my dogs. that way i can stop making music altogether and leave it to the dogs. always enjoyed improv and randomness over composition anyhow.

regarding suggestions for gestural music research: Eboman. there has been a piece about him earlier but i think he has done a lot of work in this area with the Sensor-suit he built, and he used it in live performance as well, both solo and together with theatre and other stuff. and its combined with video as well! and he&#039;s Dutch! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i need the Music Shaper-balls for my dogs. that way i can stop making music altogether and leave it to the dogs. always enjoyed improv and randomness over composition anyhow.</p>
<p>regarding suggestions for gestural music research: Eboman. there has been a piece about him earlier but i think he has done a lot of work in this area with the Sensor-suit he built, and he used it in live performance as well, both solo and together with theatre and other stuff. and its combined with video as well! and he&#8217;s Dutch! :)</p>
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		<title>By: jock</title>
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		<dc:creator>jock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sweet! another way to awkwardly control generative music!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sweet! another way to awkwardly control generative music!</p>
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		<title>By: Lsd25</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lsd25</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like there are going to be three flavors of Zoozbeats a free app up to a more &quot;Pro&quot; app. 

I think this is a good approch because people who are not electronic musicians want to have fun too. A lot of the more complex apps like Noise.io and Beatmaker might be too intimidating to someone who is starting from zero knowledge. 

Looks like fun though.

Like the Korg DS-10 linking up with others is fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like there are going to be three flavors of Zoozbeats a free app up to a more &#8220;Pro&#8221; app. </p>
<p>I think this is a good approch because people who are not electronic musicians want to have fun too. A lot of the more complex apps like Noise.io and Beatmaker might be too intimidating to someone who is starting from zero knowledge. </p>
<p>Looks like fun though.</p>
<p>Like the Korg DS-10 linking up with others is fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Ferguson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Kyle: Curtis Bahn plays sitar?  i thought that was a dilruba.  hauntingly beautiful all the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kyle: Curtis Bahn plays sitar?  i thought that was a dilruba.  hauntingly beautiful all the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kyle: Yeah, absolutely. And I think that&#039;s equally interesting stuff. I will say, even for an advanced instrument, there&#039;s something to be learned in testing and feedback from musicians. And just designing something to be sophisticated doesn&#039;t necessarily make it so -- sometimes a simple instrument can become sophisticated in the hands of a master player, which I think is what Gil means by that &quot;high ceiling&quot; concept. But what I do like about this is that people are asking questions about all ends of this spectrum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kyle: Yeah, absolutely. And I think that&#8217;s equally interesting stuff. I will say, even for an advanced instrument, there&#8217;s something to be learned in testing and feedback from musicians. And just designing something to be sophisticated doesn&#8217;t necessarily make it so &#8212; sometimes a simple instrument can become sophisticated in the hands of a master player, which I think is what Gil means by that &#8220;high ceiling&#8221; concept. But what I do like about this is that people are asking questions about all ends of this spectrum.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle McDonald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Peter&quot;&gt;one might wonder if it causes people to neglect the potential of design with instruments intended for more depth&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As counter-examples, I would cite &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.arts.rpi.edu/crb/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Curtis Bahn&lt;/a&gt;, one of my teachers who has developed very nuanced extensions of his bass and sitar, &lt;a href=&quot;http://music.princeton.edu/~dan/BoSSA/interfaces.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dan Trueman&#039;s&lt;/a&gt; extended violin, and Tod Machover&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://opera.media.mit.edu/projects/hyperviolinbow.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hyperbow&lt;/a&gt;, aimed specifically at &quot;accomplished players.&quot;

Though the fact that a few very specific people come to mind may actually be a counter-argument...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="Peter"><p>one might wonder if it causes people to neglect the potential of design with instruments intended for more depth</p></blockquote>
<p>As counter-examples, I would cite <a href="http://www.arts.rpi.edu/crb/" rel="nofollow">Curtis Bahn</a>, one of my teachers who has developed very nuanced extensions of his bass and sitar, <a href="http://music.princeton.edu/~dan/BoSSA/interfaces.html" rel="nofollow">Dan Trueman&#8217;s</a> extended violin, and Tod Machover&#8217;s <a href="http://opera.media.mit.edu/projects/hyperviolinbow.html" rel="nofollow">Hyperbow</a>, aimed specifically at &#8220;accomplished players.&#8221;</p>
<p>Though the fact that a few very specific people come to mind may actually be a counter-argument&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@agargara:
Two possible answers to that question:

1. Doomed, as we were by the invention of the kazoo. (Damn you, kazoo!)

2. Teaching Day Care.

Wouldn&#039;t worry about it. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@agargara:<br />
Two possible answers to that question:</p>
<p>1. Doomed, as we were by the invention of the kazoo. (Damn you, kazoo!)</p>
<p>2. Teaching Day Care.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t worry about it. ;)</p>
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