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	<title>Comments on: Ableton Hack: Infinite Submix Group Folders</title>
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		<title>By: GlassX</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/19/ableton-hack-infinite-submix-group-folders/comment-page-1/#comment-705241</link>
		<dc:creator>GlassX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it, how is this any different from routing N tracks to an empty audio track... ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it, how is this any different from routing N tracks to an empty audio track&#8230; ?</p>
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		<title>By: gbsr</title>
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		<dc:creator>gbsr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah i used to have alot of sends and returns aswell as alot of submix buses, and submix buses of the submix buses etc. it gets very to manage as the project grows bigger. if the cpu allows you, atleast now its a bit more easier to manage. not optimal but better then before anyways. big ups on the osx version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah i used to have alot of sends and returns aswell as alot of submix buses, and submix buses of the submix buses etc. it gets very to manage as the project grows bigger. if the cpu allows you, atleast now its a bit more easier to manage. not optimal but better then before anyways. big ups on the osx version.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanceg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanceg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see now why you all might want that. I typically work with 16 to 24 send/return busses in Live and sometimes find this difficult to organize.  I don&#039;t at all use the typical Live workflow (I don&#039;t use loops, and don&#039;t use Live&#039;s time-warping and beat matching features..but I&#039;m glad all that is there). One of my very favorite aspects of Live is that it&#039;s so very adaptable to many different ways of working.  That&#039;s why it&#039;s still my main workplace/control center/ recording system for my improvisational work and a main tool for assembling mixes.

I&#039;m very happy someone came up with this simple and easy plugin to solve this issue for you all. I was going to offer to build one for Mac but i see Expert Sleepers has already done so (and likely 100X better than I could do.  Long live Crossfade Loop Synth!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see now why you all might want that. I typically work with 16 to 24 send/return busses in Live and sometimes find this difficult to organize.  I don&#8217;t at all use the typical Live workflow (I don&#8217;t use loops, and don&#8217;t use Live&#8217;s time-warping and beat matching features..but I&#8217;m glad all that is there). One of my very favorite aspects of Live is that it&#8217;s so very adaptable to many different ways of working.  That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s still my main workplace/control center/ recording system for my improvisational work and a main tool for assembling mixes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very happy someone came up with this simple and easy plugin to solve this issue for you all. I was going to offer to build one for Mac but i see Expert Sleepers has already done so (and likely 100X better than I could do.  Long live Crossfade Loop Synth!)</p>
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		<title>By: asdf</title>
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		<dc:creator>asdf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t use ableton so I don&#039;t really care, but man, that&#039;s one fugly GUI. Looks like a windows v3.0 app.  Maybe one day they can take the time to spruce it up and get it looking like a windows v3.1 app. LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t use ableton so I don&#8217;t really care, but man, that&#8217;s one fugly GUI. Looks like a windows v3.0 app.  Maybe one day they can take the time to spruce it up and get it looking like a windows v3.1 app. LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: gbsr</title>
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		<dc:creator>gbsr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>never heard of pluggobus. the thing about this is that its in essence free provided you have the tools to make a vsti.

for those of you who dont understand why its useful: if you dont  understand why its useful chances are pretty slim that you need it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>never heard of pluggobus. the thing about this is that its in essence free provided you have the tools to make a vsti.</p>
<p>for those of you who dont understand why its useful: if you dont  understand why its useful chances are pretty slim that you need it :)</p>
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		<title>By: Bjorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bjorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The PluggoBus system lets plug-ins send up to eight channels of audio to each other. Not free but it has been around for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PluggoBus system lets plug-ins send up to eight channels of audio to each other. Not free but it has been around for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: jens-oliver &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ableton Live hat jetzt Subgruppen</title>
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		<dc:creator>jens-oliver &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ableton Live hat jetzt Subgruppen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] beim Lieblingstechnonerdnachrichtenversorger CDM gelesen: Ableton Live kann jetzt Subgruppen. MÃ¶glich wird&#8217;s durch ein VSTi &#8212; also [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] beim Lieblingstechnonerdnachrichtenversorger CDM gelesen: Ableton Live kann jetzt Subgruppen. MÃ¶glich wird&#8217;s durch ein VSTi &#8212; also [...]</p>
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		<title>By: os</title>
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		<dc:creator>os</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just made a Mac OS X version, if anybody wants it:

http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/midinull.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just made a Mac OS X version, if anybody wants it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/midinull.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/midinull.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Video Music</title>
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		<dc:creator>Video Music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One respondent in the forum said he&#039;d done it with reactor as well, and that it worked great. Doesn&#039;t have reactor myself, so I can&#039;t check, but it&#039;s worth a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One respondent in the forum said he&#8217;d done it with reactor as well, and that it worked great. Doesn&#8217;t have reactor myself, so I can&#8217;t check, but it&#8217;s worth a try.</p>
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		<title>By: tiago morgado</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiago morgado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can&#039;t you do this sort of synchronization even with subgroups with IAC Bus Driver</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can&#8217;t you do this sort of synchronization even with subgroups with IAC Bus Driver</p>
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