Comments on: Round-Up: Samples, Stealing, Fakery, the Law, and Lots of Sample Shenanigans http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:41:57 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Carl Lumma http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/comment-page-2/#comment-976925 Carl Lumma Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:35:49 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/#comment-976925 Who thinks the organ riff in the break in "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger" sounds like it was sampled from Karn Evil 9? Who thinks the organ riff in the break in
“Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger” sounds like it was sampled from Karn Evil 9?

]]> By: deez http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/comment-page-2/#comment-793845 deez Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:24:13 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/#comment-793845 US & RIAA need to stop acting like police and work on a solution. Time changed a long time ago,..stop crying that someone sampled my song,..and be gratefull,..If I paint the mona lisa ,.it would be a crime too?? i painted it my way , I called it Mona Liso. It still art but diffrent approach. Hip Hop was so fresh because you could make something new out of something old and. Those who like the original would buy the original too!! so it works both ways!!,.but if you are a greedy, you would like to sue everyone for sampling. Like that fag that sued Biz Markie. The law should be " Can not sample whole bar but notes can be sampled because you can not own notes nor frequency,..." US & RIAA need to stop acting like police and work on a solution. Time changed a long time ago,..stop crying that someone sampled my song,..and be gratefull,..If I paint the mona lisa ,.it would be a crime too?? i painted it my way , I called it Mona Liso. It still art but diffrent approach. Hip Hop was so fresh because you could make something new out of something old and. Those who like the original would buy the original too!! so it works both ways!!,.but if you are a greedy, you would like to sue everyone for sampling. Like that fag that sued Biz Markie. The law should be ” Can not sample whole bar but notes can be sampled because you can not own notes nor frequency,…”

]]> By: Taylor Livingston http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/comment-page-2/#comment-724399 Taylor Livingston Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:39:05 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/#comment-724399 "Of course, if it were 100% live, it wouldn’t be electronic music." Huh-wha? Is playing a synthesizer not live? Live is a temporal descriptor, and electronic just means electrons flowing through a non-metal substance. The two are not mutually exclusive or even related in the slightest. Electronic music predates the tape recorder by about half a century, so how do you reckon electronic music can't be played live? “Of course, if it were 100% live, it wouldn’t be electronic music.”

Huh-wha? Is playing a synthesizer not live? Live is a temporal descriptor, and electronic just means electrons flowing through a non-metal substance. The two are not mutually exclusive or even related in the slightest. Electronic music predates the tape recorder by about half a century, so how do you reckon electronic music can’t be played live?

]]> By: astroids http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/comment-page-2/#comment-719455 astroids Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:33:41 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/#comment-719455 a new documentary called RIP - a remix manifesto from the National Film Board of Canada about copyright & creative commons some interesting points - features girltalk http://www3.nfb.ca/webextension/rip-a-remix-manifesto/?ec=en20081015 a new documentary called RIP – a remix manifesto from the National Film Board of Canada about copyright & creative commons some interesting points – features girltalk

http://www3.nfb.ca/webextension/rip-a-remix-manifesto/?ec=en20081015

]]> By: Reinis http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/comment-page-2/#comment-715314 Reinis Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:53:25 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/#comment-715314 As Hoffmeister pointed out on the IL forum thread - the following is from the online <a href="http://support.image-line.com/knowledgebase/base.php?id=36&ans=41" rel="nofollow">knowledge base</a> on ILs site: "* You can not use or sell any of the songs/loops that come included with FL Studio. If you want to use parts of it, you can contact the original creator and discuss this issue further with him." Granted, not the most legally strong leg to stand on, but I think that is clear enough to claim that Dirty should have known. As Hoffmeister pointed out on the IL forum thread – the following is from the online knowledge base on ILs site: “* You can not use or sell any of the songs/loops that come included with FL Studio. If you want to use parts of it, you can contact the original creator and discuss this issue further with him.”

Granted, not the most legally strong leg to stand on, but I think that is clear enough to claim that Dirty should have known.

]]> By: Create Digital Music » All Fruity, No Loops: FL Studio to Remove All Melodic Samples? http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/comment-page-2/#comment-715252 Create Digital Music » All Fruity, No Loops: FL Studio to Remove All Melodic Samples? Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:42:12 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/#comment-715252 [...] can read the extensive comments on the previous story, but these two lines from wi_ngo pretty much sum it up: I LOVE the Grey [...] [...] can read the extensive comments on the previous story, but these two lines from wi_ngo pretty much sum it up: I LOVE the Grey [...]

]]> By: Minneapolis artist http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/comment-page-2/#comment-713048 Minneapolis artist Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:16:07 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/#comment-713048 I believe in an artists creative rights, but people have gotten far too pc these days. I believe in an artists creative rights, but people have gotten far too pc these days.

]]> By: Jim http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/comment-page-2/#comment-711902 Jim Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:47:43 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/#comment-711902 In fairness to the designers of The Killers set, this kind of stage / screen design has been available way before thet Etienne de Crecy thing. I myself have VJ'ed a rig like this many times with Norman Cook. The whole wireframe projection mapping though...that's a different matter. In fairness to the designers of The Killers set, this kind of stage / screen design has been available way before thet Etienne de Crecy thing. I myself have VJ’ed a rig like this many times with Norman Cook. The whole wireframe projection mapping though…that’s a different matter.

]]> By: Micah http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/comment-page-2/#comment-710172 Micah Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:46:32 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/#comment-710172 Meant to say make your own sounds from SCRATCh!!!! LOL sorry Meant to say make your own sounds from SCRATCh!!!! LOL sorry

]]> By: Micah http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/comment-page-2/#comment-710169 Micah Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:45:50 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/20/round-up-samples-stealing-fakery-the-law-and-lots-of-sample-shenanigans/#comment-710169 Guys.. here is something we can do... make our own stuff!! Make your own sounds from tracks.. or by programming your own midi with whatever you want.. I mean I am soo sick of hearing the same sounds and same crap... seriously.. Now the FL issue.. if those files are included in the same library of the royalty free samples.... then they are at fault.. not the artist that did the track.. it is just the drum loop and the chords that is in his track.. and well those are the main parts of the song.... and the file names both had the name Berlin in them... not Deadmau5.... So if the person didn't know who deadmau5 is.. which is quite possible down here in New Orleans...considering no big dance artists really com here.. (I guess we can't afford them you know since we still have issues)..... point being.. if the person didn't know this.. saw those files in the library... if one shots should only be used... and not loops... then FL has a responsibility to seperate those two... well regardless unless they have Deadmau5 permission to include those audio files to begin with is the real question.. Wonder if there is more to this story.. if FL really messed up and trying to put the blame on the customer... so we shall see... but seriously MAKE YOUR OWN SOUNDS AND SAMPLES.... there are soo many tools at your disposal....then you never have to worry about this!!!!!!! Guys.. here is something we can do… make our own stuff!! Make your own sounds from tracks.. or by programming your own midi with whatever you want..

I mean I am soo sick of hearing the same sounds and same crap… seriously..

Now the FL issue.. if those files are included in the same library of the royalty free samples…. then they are at fault.. not the artist that did the track..

it is just the drum loop and the chords that is in his track.. and well those are the main parts of the song…. and the file names both had the name Berlin in them… not Deadmau5….

So if the person didn’t know who deadmau5 is.. which is quite possible down here in New Orleans…considering no big dance artists really com here.. (I guess we can’t afford them you know since we still have issues)…..

point being.. if the person didn’t know this.. saw those files in the library… if one shots should only be used… and not loops… then FL has a responsibility to seperate those two… well regardless unless they have Deadmau5 permission to include those audio files to begin with is the real question..

Wonder if there is more to this story.. if FL really messed up and trying to put the blame on the customer… so we shall see…

but seriously MAKE YOUR OWN SOUNDS AND SAMPLES…. there are soo many tools at your disposal….then you never have to worry about this!!!!!!!

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