Comments on: Buddha Machine 2: All-in-One $25 Ambient Box Gets a Sequel http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/24/buddha-machine-2-all-in-one-25-ambient-box-gets-a-sequel/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:17:37 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: cody http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/24/buddha-machine-2-all-in-one-25-ambient-box-gets-a-sequel/comment-page-1/#comment-750732 cody Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:20:12 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/24/buddha-machine-2-all-in-one-25-ambient-box-gets-a-sequel/#comment-750732 I think you have to observe this device from more of a meditational perspective. I just received my two machines today and have been listening to them for over two hours and haven't lost interest yet. I've got them set up on two seperate external audio sources and it sounds wonderful:) I also don't smoke weed or drink and haven't for a long time, you simply need to realize what the device is and what you may or may not desire it for. It is not a keyboad or sampler, i'm sure you could rig one up easily enough and get extra creative.. but originally it is a box that plays nine droning loops. If you adjust your expectations of what you want to hear and how you want to hear it, these things can produce new sounds for an infinite amount of time. The fact that i have two just makes things doubly interesting. I think you have to observe this device from more of a meditational perspective. I just received my two machines today and have been listening to them for over two hours and haven’t lost interest yet. I’ve got them set up on two seperate external audio sources and it sounds wonderful:) I also don’t smoke weed or drink and haven’t for a long time, you simply need to realize what the device is and what you may or may not desire it for. It is not a keyboad or sampler, i’m sure you could rig one up easily enough and get extra creative.. but originally it is a box that plays nine droning loops. If you adjust your expectations of what you want to hear and how you want to hear it, these things can produce new sounds for an infinite amount of time. The fact that i have two just makes things doubly interesting.

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]]> By: Cort3x http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/24/buddha-machine-2-all-in-one-25-ambient-box-gets-a-sequel/comment-page-1/#comment-716381 Cort3x Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:46:07 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/24/buddha-machine-2-all-in-one-25-ambient-box-gets-a-sequel/#comment-716381 I must say, from the very beginning I have failed to see what is so interesting about the Buddha Machines. Is it for people who've never tried a tape recorder? Oh wait, it's got no recording function. Maybe it's for people who want a simplified iPod? Can you even play two loops at once, or do you have to buy two Buddha Machines to do that? I think it's an object which has gathered undeserved hype, and that's all there really is to it. I may be wrong, though - I've never touched one. Is there anyone here who has one and has something positive to say about it? And I don't mean "it sounds good" or "I like it". I must say, from the very beginning I have failed to see what is so interesting about the Buddha Machines. Is it for people who’ve never tried a tape recorder? Oh wait, it’s got no recording function. Maybe it’s for people who want a simplified iPod?

Can you even play two loops at once, or do you have to buy two Buddha Machines to do that?

I think it’s an object which has gathered undeserved hype, and that’s all there really is to it. I may be wrong, though – I’ve never touched one.

Is there anyone here who has one and has something positive to say about it? And I don’t mean “it sounds good” or “I like it”.

]]> By: Roland Reinke http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/24/buddha-machine-2-all-in-one-25-ambient-box-gets-a-sequel/comment-page-1/#comment-711613 Roland Reinke Fri, 28 Nov 2008 08:23:34 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/24/buddha-machine-2-all-in-one-25-ambient-box-gets-a-sequel/#comment-711613 Monolake did a whole album with sounds form this machine... Monolake did a whole album with sounds form this machine…

]]> By: Aaron http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/24/buddha-machine-2-all-in-one-25-ambient-box-gets-a-sequel/comment-page-1/#comment-710819 Aaron Thu, 27 Nov 2008 05:02:03 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/24/buddha-machine-2-all-in-one-25-ambient-box-gets-a-sequel/#comment-710819 http://www.dealextreme.com/products.dx/category.1005~search.buddhist ^ cheaper buy some of these and see if there are any bends? http://www.dealextreme.com/products.dx/category.1005~search.buddhist
^ cheaper
buy some of these and see if there are any bends?

]]> By: RCUS http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/24/buddha-machine-2-all-in-one-25-ambient-box-gets-a-sequel/comment-page-1/#comment-710065 RCUS Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:19:03 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/24/buddha-machine-2-all-in-one-25-ambient-box-gets-a-sequel/#comment-710065 +2 on the underwhelmed list. I just don't get stuff like this. Maybe I shouldn't knock it though considering I don't smoke weed, practice budhism, or meditate. Perhaps I should start?...... Ahh who am I kidding. No time for meditation. I'm too busy thinking about that damn korg nanopad and how I'm going to stuff it into my Miko somehow! +2 on the underwhelmed list. I just don’t get stuff like this. Maybe I shouldn’t knock it though considering I don’t smoke weed, practice budhism, or meditate. Perhaps I should start?…… Ahh who am I kidding. No time for meditation. I’m too busy thinking about that damn korg nanopad and how I’m going to stuff it into my Miko somehow!

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/24/buddha-machine-2-all-in-one-25-ambient-box-gets-a-sequel/comment-page-1/#comment-709944 Peter Kirn Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:12:54 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/24/buddha-machine-2-all-in-one-25-ambient-box-gets-a-sequel/#comment-709944 Sorry, yes, it "generates" sound in the way an alarm clock radio does. ;) It is, however, linked philosophically to generative music, if not so literally -- and Eno was the first customer. Now, I'd like something that really *was* generative in the sense of making its own musical materials; that was sort of my point here. (Even Eno's own iPhone app, incidentally, is only partially generative -- only when you stop messing with it, interestingly enough.) Sorry, yes, it “generates” sound in the way an alarm clock radio does. ;)

It is, however, linked philosophically to generative music, if not so literally — and Eno was the first customer. Now, I’d like something that really *was* generative in the sense of making its own musical materials; that was sort of my point here. (Even Eno’s own iPhone app, incidentally, is only partially generative — only when you stop messing with it, interestingly enough.)

]]> By: Adrian http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/24/buddha-machine-2-all-in-one-25-ambient-box-gets-a-sequel/comment-page-1/#comment-709936 Adrian Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:02:21 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/24/buddha-machine-2-all-in-one-25-ambient-box-gets-a-sequel/#comment-709936 I have to say I am a little underwhelmed by Buddha Machine 2 - the build quality is not as nice as the previous model, and the loops just don't grab me as much. The pitch control is nice though. One bone to pick - I've seen people in a few places use the word "generate" or "generative". Surely this implies the music is created on the fly? And that's certainly not the case with the Buddha Machine. I have to say I am a little underwhelmed by Buddha Machine 2 – the build quality is not as nice as the previous model, and the loops just don’t grab me as much. The pitch control is nice though.

One bone to pick – I’ve seen people in a few places use the word “generate” or “generative”. Surely this implies the music is created on the fly? And that’s certainly not the case with the Buddha Machine.

]]> By: Chris http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/24/buddha-machine-2-all-in-one-25-ambient-box-gets-a-sequel/comment-page-1/#comment-709807 Chris Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:05:52 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/24/buddha-machine-2-all-in-one-25-ambient-box-gets-a-sequel/#comment-709807 A Buddha Box with an open chip would have me well satisfied for years to come. It would be the perfect inspiration/imaginative container for the kind of music I really want to make. I don't care about iPhones anymore -- I'm already burned out by all the new apps and the tiny interface. What I want is a cheap plastic box with one tiny speaker that makes my imagination cream with strange possibilities. Taking it all down from Lo-Fi to No-Fi...emptiness in a box -- loaded with clips you can use at your day job of choice, or on a deserted island of no importance. A Buddha Box with an open chip would have me well satisfied for years to come. It would be the perfect inspiration/imaginative container for the kind of music I really want to make. I don’t care about iPhones anymore — I’m already burned out by all the new apps and the tiny interface. What I want is a cheap plastic box with one tiny speaker that makes my imagination cream with strange possibilities. Taking it all down from Lo-Fi to No-Fi…emptiness in a box — loaded with clips you can use at your day job of choice, or on a deserted island of no importance.

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/24/buddha-machine-2-all-in-one-25-ambient-box-gets-a-sequel/comment-page-1/#comment-709421 Peter Kirn Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:54:21 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/11/24/buddha-machine-2-all-in-one-25-ambient-box-gets-a-sequel/#comment-709421 @samu: Interesting, and yeah, even in my conflicted brain I can make a strong argument for that. I guess the other issues was the boredom thing - how I'd feel about it after a period of time. @Mark: As for Max running on portable devices, Pd is already there: http://gige.xdv.org/pages/pd/ -- runs on PDAs. And even that project is likely to be dated, because smarter mobile devices are just looking like computers. (Aside from the iPhone, think mobile devices running Linux.) For RjDj, they're not running a "mobile" version of Pd, they're running the full release and even a handful of externals. Hans Christoph Steiner is working on this stuff now at Eyebeam here in NY. Here's a video: http://www.vimeo.com/2205920 And while this server is unresponsive for me right now, his project updates: http://dev.eyebeam.org/​projects/​reware He is working with PDa (Pd Anywhere) because he's rescuing old PDAs and such. (See also: old iPods.) I wouldn't rule it out for Max, but in this case Pd benefits from being more modular, being open source, etc. Max's strength is on the desktop. There's no question you can't build something that looks increasingly like a Buddha Machine that has a computer of some sort inside. That's not to take away from what FM3 have done -- but just saying, if this other angle interests you, you've got some possibilities. ;) @samu: Interesting, and yeah, even in my conflicted brain I can make a strong argument for that. I guess the other issues was the boredom thing – how I’d feel about it after a period of time.

@Mark: As for Max running on portable devices, Pd is already there:
http://gige.xdv.org/pages/pd/

– runs on PDAs. And even that project is likely to be dated, because smarter mobile devices are just looking like computers. (Aside from the iPhone, think mobile devices running Linux.) For RjDj, they’re not running a “mobile” version of Pd, they’re running the full release and even a handful of externals.

Hans Christoph Steiner is working on this stuff now at Eyebeam here in NY. Here’s a video:
http://www.vimeo.com/2205920

And while this server is unresponsive for me right now, his project updates:
http://dev.eyebeam.org/​projects/​reware

He is working with PDa (Pd Anywhere) because he’s rescuing old PDAs and such. (See also: old iPods.)

I wouldn’t rule it out for Max, but in this case Pd benefits from being more modular, being open source, etc. Max’s strength is on the desktop.

There’s no question you can’t build something that looks increasingly like a Buddha Machine that has a computer of some sort inside. That’s not to take away from what FM3 have done — but just saying, if this other angle interests you, you’ve got some possibilities. ;)

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