Comments on: How They Work – NIN: Echoplex, Rehearsing Live with Lemur

By: iveseenitall

iveseenitall — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 20:36:41 +0000

And here I thought NIN was born in 2006 when I downloaded the Only video. Well, no matter since I didn’t pass out cigars till a year later when, MAC and I downloaded our second music video Head Like Hole.
Good thing I did too otherwise I might have missed becoming a fan.
Might have been somewhere other than the Oakland Coliseum in 2008 when NIN rocked the house with big sound and a top notch show.
Good grief, could a band deliver more to fans than NIN has during the last couple of years?
Anyways, gear is great! Great bands are rare and hard to come by.
Just ask David Bowie.

By: iain010100

iain010100 — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:30:30 +0000

I saw NIN twice – first time at the Beacon theater on their Pretty Hate Machine tour, second time when they opened for David Bowie. Both times they were disappointing. They lacked a certain stage presence. It wasn’t the stage technology holding them back because I also saw Ministry (twice), Skinny Puppy (twice), and Front 242 at around the same time (as NIN’s PHM tour), and these other bands put on truly memorable stage shows. Also, Bowie and Reznor sang some songs together and Bowie blew Reznor awayâ€¦ on NIN songs!

By: Freddy

Freddy — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:36:31 +0000

Well, besides practice and a good monitor mix, it takes all the band members being on the same channel, or state of mind if you want, most of the pro bands end up having it and some bands master it, amateurs hardly get to it and when they do, it takes so little to screw it all and get back to zero… been there, done that.

Oh, and there’s the extra effort, time and money to run a complex act that not everyone wants to invest… indie, punk, “live laptop act” – add your choice of music here- is easier/cheaper :)

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By: runagate

runagate — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:53:17 +0000

Nice.

So what do you recommend as a cheap way of attaining a touch screen?

I’m particularly interested in multi touch, of course, and just today stumbled upon the all-in-one PC/multi touch HP monster which I simply cannot afford yet yearn for terribly.

Especially as I use the touch screen version of Usine DAW, because it implements many features I’ve been ranting about since before the iPhone existed and yet my crappy refurb POS serial touch screen with terrible latency is still dead and just taking up room.

By: Pauly

Pauly — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:50:01 +0000

Bonus! Plenty of all this and more over @ Apple.com

http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/action/#nin

Pretty well put together video of NIN’s use of Logic, really worth checking out.

By: mode

mode — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:17:16 +0000

I remember hearing a while back that their guitarists use amp simulators plugged direct into the board as opposed to “real” guitar amps. Anyone know more about this?

By: Myles

Myles — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:54:49 +0000

If you want to know more details about how they put together and control the live show:

http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/news/2008/09/nin_show/

Inspiring to say the least.

By: Chris A

Chris A — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:51:37 +0000

I saw this NIN tour in Pemberton and again a couple weeks ago in Victoria. By far one of the best shows I’ve seen. I’ve seen NIN a few times, but they step up the production each tour. Unfortunately….Trent said that they wouldn’t be doing a tour like this again. :( It’s not often that you’ll see a show that pushes the new-media production value as much as this did. It was crazy watching synchronized 3D images like puffs of smoke make their way from the background through to the foreground screens and having the band play inside the visuals. From what I know they use a Pro-Tools live rig and synchronize certain parts of the show. That being said, if it all crashed, they could still use the floor monitors and still be playing away since they’re an actual band. The band and engineers controlled the machines…not the other way around. So no Milli Vanilli, Ashley Simpson coverups here. What was really cool though was that the second show I saw in Victoria incorporated completely acoustic versions of tunes like “Piggy” and utilized upright bass, marimbas, glockenspiels, tubular bells and tambourines. To go from completely acoustic to rocking out using lemurs and modular synths live, without a laptop to be seen on stage, is pretty impressive. And at the same time doesn’t sound like a carbon copy of a recorded track or performance. This tour made me rethink about how mainstream-electronic music can be performed live with energy and massive audience appeal sans some of the usual techie skepticism.

By: Brian Stone

Brian Stone — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:23:13 +0000

http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/action/#nin

Sort of related, this showed up recently on Apple’s site. I like the switch on the mic stand.