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	<title>Comments on: CDM Does Not Break NAMM Embargoes; Why That&#8217;s Good For You and When to Tune In</title>
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		<title>By: Tapeleg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tapeleg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to copy and paste this for the rest of the blogging world, especially the ones in my circle of the net.  Good job on keeping up cred.

Eventually, the marketers and pr people will stop sending out embargoed releases, and just email the world when they are ready to go public, and even then, they will need the people they trust.  This is another good way to give more credibility to new media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to copy and paste this for the rest of the blogging world, especially the ones in my circle of the net.  Good job on keeping up cred.</p>
<p>Eventually, the marketers and pr people will stop sending out embargoed releases, and just email the world when they are ready to go public, and even then, they will need the people they trust.  This is another good way to give more credibility to new media.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I can see maybe this was misunderstood. I&#039;m not looking to talk down to anyone, and it&#039;s really more practicality than ideology. (I can find more interesting things to be ideological about.)

There is a larger debate, larger than music tech, which I think has gotten out of hand, particularly:
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/17/death-to-the-embargo/

TechCrunch&#039;s situation is very different. But yeah, this is just where I&#039;m at with this, not anyone else. And I think it&#039;s something readers should know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I can see maybe this was misunderstood. I&#8217;m not looking to talk down to anyone, and it&#8217;s really more practicality than ideology. (I can find more interesting things to be ideological about.)</p>
<p>There is a larger debate, larger than music tech, which I think has gotten out of hand, particularly:<br />
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/17/death-to-the-embargo/" rel="nofollow">http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/17/death-to-the-embargo/</a></p>
<p>TechCrunch&#8217;s situation is very different. But yeah, this is just where I&#8217;m at with this, not anyone else. And I think it&#8217;s something readers should know.</p>
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		<title>By: M.A.S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>M.A.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gizmo: Except for the fact that most readers love it and eat it up. Lets be honest here. There is a large degree of entertainment in what we do (i.e. blogging). As I said before there is room for both in this work and the Sonic-State&#039;s have that base covered for the most part. I guess the questionable area comes down to where do blogs fall?   I personally view them as I do in the tech and games industries and that is to say that rumor and conjecture is more than far game, because hey, it is fun and it invites discussion. Look at this post for example and the comment section.

What Peter and his crew do with this site is up to them and I respect that and frankly that cultivates a certain type of audience to follow that. I just don&#039;t want anyone to be on some sort of high horse talking down towards other sites or forums that don&#039;t follow that ideology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gizmo: Except for the fact that most readers love it and eat it up. Lets be honest here. There is a large degree of entertainment in what we do (i.e. blogging). As I said before there is room for both in this work and the Sonic-State&#8217;s have that base covered for the most part. I guess the questionable area comes down to where do blogs fall?   I personally view them as I do in the tech and games industries and that is to say that rumor and conjecture is more than far game, because hey, it is fun and it invites discussion. Look at this post for example and the comment section.</p>
<p>What Peter and his crew do with this site is up to them and I respect that and frankly that cultivates a certain type of audience to follow that. I just don&#8217;t want anyone to be on some sort of high horse talking down towards other sites or forums that don&#8217;t follow that ideology.</p>
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		<title>By: Gizmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gizmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M.A.S. (funnily enough my initials) - your lapdog description is one take on it. However, it&#039;s a 2 way street. If they don&#039;t work with us, we&#039;ll post whatever half baked crap arrives in our inbox or via text, and end up posting heaps of utter bullshit that essentially misleads the readership and achieves precisely nothing. All the effort used to post rubbish is completely wasted to the point where we needn&#039;t have bothered anyway. I&#039;m sure the readership would much prefer to read the facts rather than half baked fiction, and I&#039;d much rather post correct and factual info as well.

It&#039;s not like it&#039;s a war - working together means that the reader gets the best possible info. And that ultimately is why we do what we do. Posting rumours is more dishonest than anything else. Luring readers to the site with probable rubbish has zero integrity and serves no purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M.A.S. (funnily enough my initials) &#8211; your lapdog description is one take on it. However, it&#8217;s a 2 way street. If they don&#8217;t work with us, we&#8217;ll post whatever half baked crap arrives in our inbox or via text, and end up posting heaps of utter bullshit that essentially misleads the readership and achieves precisely nothing. All the effort used to post rubbish is completely wasted to the point where we needn&#8217;t have bothered anyway. I&#8217;m sure the readership would much prefer to read the facts rather than half baked fiction, and I&#8217;d much rather post correct and factual info as well.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like it&#8217;s a war &#8211; working together means that the reader gets the best possible info. And that ultimately is why we do what we do. Posting rumours is more dishonest than anything else. Luring readers to the site with probable rubbish has zero integrity and serves no purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@M.A.S.:
1. I don&#039;t see how that would be of much benefit. Needless to say, if we did nothing but dig around for information without the cooperation of the companies involved, they&#039;d resist vigorously and (more importantly) that information wouldn&#039;t be terribly accurate. It&#039;s not as though there are some big secrets at these companies. I mean, news is great, but a lot of the time I actually prefer what we find out about a tool&#039;s musical meaning or deeper design significance. Leaking a little ad copy isn&#039;t going to accomplish that -- very often, the most interesting stuff to write about a product is when it&#039;s been out for a year and lots of people have had their hands on it.

2. It matters because we have more time. I&#039;ve got some stories to write up tonight. Then they&#039;re done, I&#039;ve asked some questions and know something, you&#039;ll see them tomorrow and meanwhile I&#039;ll be working on some actual music. Oh, and by the way, we&#039;re talking press releases here more than actual gear/software. 

Anyway, part of what apparently happened in this case is indeed that print magazines ran stuff early. It was a timing screwup. The information isn&#039;t complete, so I&#039;d rather get the complete and accurate information on the embargo deadline tomorrow.

There&#039;s no obligation for these companies to tell us anything, and even many non-PR, inside sources won&#039;t talk about something. These are small, closely-knit little shops for the most part. 

It&#039;s not in anyone&#039;s interests -- least of all those developers -- if we&#039;re their lap dogs. I know some of them will get upset when we criticize them in a way they disagree with, but I&#039;ve also heard them get upset when they feel we&#039;re not critical enough. This industry is different from the tech industry in general, though; the vendors are companies with marketing, yes, but they&#039;re also part of the community of people using music technology. 

Sometimes, there&#039;s a reason to be discreet. You don&#039;t broadcast every conversation you have with every friend. The embargo is &quot;I&#039;m not ready to share this with everyone yet, but I&#039;d like you to have a look at it.&quot; It can be an opportunity to give feedback early and to start writing early. 

I think the only real gray area is that once a cat is out of the bag, it&#039;s tough for other writers to know what to do. That&#039;s where it gets ambiguous. That just happens not to be a problem for me yet because I&#039;d rather be late but more complete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@M.A.S.:<br />
1. I don&#8217;t see how that would be of much benefit. Needless to say, if we did nothing but dig around for information without the cooperation of the companies involved, they&#8217;d resist vigorously and (more importantly) that information wouldn&#8217;t be terribly accurate. It&#8217;s not as though there are some big secrets at these companies. I mean, news is great, but a lot of the time I actually prefer what we find out about a tool&#8217;s musical meaning or deeper design significance. Leaking a little ad copy isn&#8217;t going to accomplish that &#8212; very often, the most interesting stuff to write about a product is when it&#8217;s been out for a year and lots of people have had their hands on it.</p>
<p>2. It matters because we have more time. I&#8217;ve got some stories to write up tonight. Then they&#8217;re done, I&#8217;ve asked some questions and know something, you&#8217;ll see them tomorrow and meanwhile I&#8217;ll be working on some actual music. Oh, and by the way, we&#8217;re talking press releases here more than actual gear/software. </p>
<p>Anyway, part of what apparently happened in this case is indeed that print magazines ran stuff early. It was a timing screwup. The information isn&#8217;t complete, so I&#8217;d rather get the complete and accurate information on the embargo deadline tomorrow.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no obligation for these companies to tell us anything, and even many non-PR, inside sources won&#8217;t talk about something. These are small, closely-knit little shops for the most part. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not in anyone&#8217;s interests &#8212; least of all those developers &#8212; if we&#8217;re their lap dogs. I know some of them will get upset when we criticize them in a way they disagree with, but I&#8217;ve also heard them get upset when they feel we&#8217;re not critical enough. This industry is different from the tech industry in general, though; the vendors are companies with marketing, yes, but they&#8217;re also part of the community of people using music technology. </p>
<p>Sometimes, there&#8217;s a reason to be discreet. You don&#8217;t broadcast every conversation you have with every friend. The embargo is &#8220;I&#8217;m not ready to share this with everyone yet, but I&#8217;d like you to have a look at it.&#8221; It can be an opportunity to give feedback early and to start writing early. </p>
<p>I think the only real gray area is that once a cat is out of the bag, it&#8217;s tough for other writers to know what to do. That&#8217;s where it gets ambiguous. That just happens not to be a problem for me yet because I&#8217;d rather be late but more complete.</p>
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		<title>By: M.A.S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>M.A.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, hit enter and it summit without my last sentence.  IMO if you want to maintain the integrity thing then the thing to do would be to not accept embargo&#039;d products to begin with.

Tell the manufacturer, hey if you are going to give it to me then I am going to write about it, but I am not going to mess with this &quot;I know a secret&quot; jumbo because that IMO is dishonest to your readers/listeners/fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, hit enter and it summit without my last sentence.  IMO if you want to maintain the integrity thing then the thing to do would be to not accept embargo&#8217;d products to begin with.</p>
<p>Tell the manufacturer, hey if you are going to give it to me then I am going to write about it, but I am not going to mess with this &#8220;I know a secret&#8221; jumbo because that IMO is dishonest to your readers/listeners/fans.</p>
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		<title>By: M.A.S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>M.A.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gizmo: So if I understand that correctly, essentially you are being bought off by the companies to be a proper lap dog and behave. Don&#039;t behave and you get your wrist slapped or worse, kicked out of the boys club. 

In my opinion (again it is only my opinion) that it is the responsibility of the company to do the legwork of not leak their products. This embargo debate has been one that has raged for years in the tech and video games news industries.

This is the whole beauty of the blogosphere to begin with. It is ruthless, gotta get to it first reporting. The thing is though that this isn&#039;t an either or debate. Just like in the &quot;real news&quot; world there is a place for the 60 Minutes type site that is slower but does more in depth and then there is a place for the TMZ&#039;s of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gizmo: So if I understand that correctly, essentially you are being bought off by the companies to be a proper lap dog and behave. Don&#8217;t behave and you get your wrist slapped or worse, kicked out of the boys club. </p>
<p>In my opinion (again it is only my opinion) that it is the responsibility of the company to do the legwork of not leak their products. This embargo debate has been one that has raged for years in the tech and video games news industries.</p>
<p>This is the whole beauty of the blogosphere to begin with. It is ruthless, gotta get to it first reporting. The thing is though that this isn&#8217;t an either or debate. Just like in the &#8220;real news&#8221; world there is a place for the 60 Minutes type site that is slower but does more in depth and then there is a place for the TMZ&#8217;s of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyril</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2009 will be the groovebox rebirth ? It&#039;s exciting :) 

&gt; Let us know if you hear anything you think we should care about.

Well, you didn&#039;t write something about the new Kyma hardware, Paca Rana &amp; Paca. But maybe you are waiting for something :)I can&#039;t believe the price of this boxes. No audio interface, no midi interface... It&#039;s just a PC and a software. A great software, but 2900$ ? Comon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2009 will be the groovebox rebirth ? It&#8217;s exciting :) </p>
<p>&gt; Let us know if you hear anything you think we should care about.</p>
<p>Well, you didn&#8217;t write something about the new Kyma hardware, Paca Rana &amp; Paca. But maybe you are waiting for something :)I can&#8217;t believe the price of this boxes. No audio interface, no midi interface&#8230; It&#8217;s just a PC and a software. A great software, but 2900$ ? Comon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gizmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gizmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine that you as Mr Manufacturer have a super hot new product to show at NAMM. It&#039;s in your commercial interests not to let the competition know that this product will be at NAMM for fear that they might just decide to bring along their own perhaps prototype product that could kill the buzz on yours dead. All your hard work is blown and the product that may have had a few months of positive press, suddenly becomes a second placed also ran.

We as journalists have to work with the manufacturers to bring you the information you need. It&#039;s a mutually beneficial arrangement, especially if like me, you depend on the good relationship with the manufacturer to get the gear in for a test. 

It would be possible to go renegade and post any and every snippet of secret info we come across, but in such a niche scene, we have the possibility to do much damage. And seeing as everyone knows everyone else, eventually nobody would speak to the renegade because in such a small industry, sources can be quickly traced. And channels for review gear would disappear as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine that you as Mr Manufacturer have a super hot new product to show at NAMM. It&#8217;s in your commercial interests not to let the competition know that this product will be at NAMM for fear that they might just decide to bring along their own perhaps prototype product that could kill the buzz on yours dead. All your hard work is blown and the product that may have had a few months of positive press, suddenly becomes a second placed also ran.</p>
<p>We as journalists have to work with the manufacturers to bring you the information you need. It&#8217;s a mutually beneficial arrangement, especially if like me, you depend on the good relationship with the manufacturer to get the gear in for a test. </p>
<p>It would be possible to go renegade and post any and every snippet of secret info we come across, but in such a niche scene, we have the possibility to do much damage. And seeing as everyone knows everyone else, eventually nobody would speak to the renegade because in such a small industry, sources can be quickly traced. And channels for review gear would disappear as well.</p>
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		<title>By: every</title>
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		<dc:creator>every</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its all about m$rketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its all about m$rketing.</p>
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