Comments on: Ableton’s Upgrade Options: Easier to Understand than a Large Hadron Collider http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:02:47 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: cubase 5-cubase studio 5 differences. - DV247 Forums http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/comment-page-1/#comment-766266 cubase 5-cubase studio 5 differences. - DV247 Forums Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:40:39 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/#comment-766266 [...] Originally Posted by EdRyan For the cost of buying the app outright (£500), you could also purchase Logic Studio 8 and Ableton 7 (with FREE upgrade to 8) for £15 more. Logic comes with 10 or so more effects and 8 more instruments, massive sample library etc..and live comes with racks and racks of cool and odd options. Just so you know you only get a free Live 7 to 8 upgrade if you buy the Suite. If you're talking about Live as a standalone app, if you were to buy Live 7 today it will still cost around £50 to get 8 when it's released in a month or two. However, you do get Operator and Drum Machines for free right now as well, which is a pretty good deal. Just clarifying your numbers, I have nothing to add about Steinberg, however it could be said based on this post that Ableton's pricing is all rather confusing as well. Actually, come to think of it, I read something about that recently - read more here. [...] [...] Originally Posted by EdRyan For the cost of buying the app outright (£500), you could also purchase Logic Studio 8 and Ableton 7 (with FREE upgrade to 8) for £15 more. Logic comes with 10 or so more effects and 8 more instruments, massive sample library etc..and live comes with racks and racks of cool and odd options. Just so you know you only get a free Live 7 to 8 upgrade if you buy the Suite. If you’re talking about Live as a standalone app, if you were to buy Live 7 today it will still cost around £50 to get 8 when it’s released in a month or two. However, you do get Operator and Drum Machines for free right now as well, which is a pretty good deal. Just clarifying your numbers, I have nothing to add about Steinberg, however it could be said based on this post that Ableton’s pricing is all rather confusing as well. Actually, come to think of it, I read something about that recently – read more here. [...]

]]> By: ma http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/comment-page-1/#comment-765059 ma Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:48:35 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/#comment-765059 (regarding the prices above - it's all about the download version for me...) (regarding the prices above – it’s all about the download version for me…)

]]> By: ma http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/comment-page-1/#comment-765057 ma Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:45:14 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/#comment-765057 For me as a Live Lite 7 user it seems to me that I got three options for suite 8: 1. Upgrade Live Lite to Ableton Suite 7 for 489€ (and upgrade to Suite 8 for 49€ in Q2 - 538€ total price) 2. Buy Ableton Suite 7 and get Ableton Suite 8 for free in Q2 - 549€ 3. In Q2 once Ableton Suite 8 are released, upgrade Live Lite to Suite for 399€ A bit weird pricing, wait and save?!? sources: http://www.ableton.com/cantwaitfor8 http://www.ableton.com/upgrade http://www.ableton.com/nl199-live-8-upgrades For me as a Live Lite 7 user it seems to me that I got three options for suite 8:

1. Upgrade Live Lite to Ableton Suite 7 for 489€
(and upgrade to Suite 8 for 49€ in Q2 – 538€ total price)

2. Buy Ableton Suite 7 and get Ableton Suite 8 for free in Q2 – 549€

3. In Q2 once Ableton Suite 8 are released, upgrade Live Lite to Suite for 399€

A bit weird pricing, wait and save?!?

sources:
http://www.ableton.com/cantwaitfor8
http://www.ableton.com/upgrade
http://www.ableton.com/nl199-live-8-upgrades

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/comment-page-1/#comment-764003 Peter Kirn Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:08:50 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/#comment-764003 Well, yes, I will say -- hard to understand as these options may be, the good news is you're likely to get a discount in there somewhere, and instantly. ;) Well, yes, I will say — hard to understand as these options may be, the good news is you’re likely to get a discount in there somewhere, and instantly. ;)

]]> By: ST8 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/comment-page-1/#comment-763718 ST8 Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:16:29 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/#comment-763718 I followed the live lite 5 -> live 5 full -> live 6 full upgrade path. I didnt get the option to upgrade to 7 free, however upon upgrading to live 7 for €99, i now get the live 8 upgrade for €49. Saving €50 which still isnt too bad I followed the live lite 5 -> live 5 full -> live 6 full upgrade path.

I didnt get the option to upgrade to 7 free, however upon upgrading to live 7 for €99, i now get the live 8 upgrade for €49. Saving €50 which still isnt too bad

]]> By: zenzen http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/comment-page-1/#comment-763227 zenzen Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:05:51 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/#comment-763227 Here it's Live Lite 6 > Live 7 (non-suite download) > Live 8 (non-suite download) = US$189 Makes me appreciate Propellerhead approach: any previous version of Reason to R4 boxed = US$125. I went R2.5 (*free* from R2) > R4, having sat out R3. I'll go 8 (I need the easy, intelligent looping!) but will try to wait a year. Here it’s Live Lite 6 > Live 7 (non-suite download) > Live 8 (non-suite download) = US$189

Makes me appreciate Propellerhead approach: any previous version of Reason to R4 boxed = US$125. I went R2.5 (*free* from R2) > R4, having sat out R3.

I’ll go 8 (I need the easy, intelligent looping!) but will try to wait a year.

]]> By: velocipede http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/comment-page-1/#comment-761924 velocipede Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:49:14 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/#comment-761924 It seems to me that if you have regular Live 6 and now upgrade to Live 7, you will NOT get a discount to upgrade to Live 8 and you will not get the free instruments, so there is no financial incentive to upgrade now. Then again, Ableton might make it more expensive to go from 6>8 directly than incrementally, but it seems unlikely. Hopefully, they will show a little love to 6 users or at least clarify their pricing plans. It seems to me that if you have regular Live 6 and now upgrade to Live 7, you will NOT get a discount to upgrade to Live 8 and you will not get the free instruments, so there is no financial incentive to upgrade now.
Then again, Ableton might make it more expensive to go from 6>8 directly than incrementally, but it seems unlikely.
Hopefully, they will show a little love to 6 users or at least clarify their pricing plans.

]]> By: glitch http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/comment-page-1/#comment-761775 glitch Sat, 17 Jan 2009 02:46:35 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/#comment-761775 Hey, I tripped across this last night while poking around for more info on Live 8 and Max For Live. I had purchased a full boxed version of Live 4, then paid upgrades for Live 5 --> 5.2 --> 6. I had skipped upgrading to 7 and was waiting for 8. There were no "Live Lites" in there anywhere. So now they just gave me Live 7 for free. Sweet!!! I don't know the exact 'magic bullet' for getting this, but I'll confirm what Dri and Peter have said: this is real. Hey, I tripped across this last night while poking around for more info on Live 8 and Max For Live.

I had purchased a full boxed version of Live 4, then paid upgrades for Live 5 –> 5.2 –> 6. I had skipped upgrading to 7 and was waiting for 8. There were no “Live Lites” in there anywhere.

So now they just gave me Live 7 for free. Sweet!!!

I don’t know the exact ‘magic bullet’ for getting this, but I’ll confirm what Dri and Peter have said: this is real.

]]> By: Dri http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/comment-page-1/#comment-761743 Dri Sat, 17 Jan 2009 01:50:14 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/#comment-761743 Hi all, Just to clarify the "free" upgrade i experienced from Live 6 to Live 7. Those screenshots were not a photoshop effort, but it does appear that this is not as simple as it seemed. First to check: If you log in to the Ableton site (not the forums) and go to Shop, and click Upgrades, you will be shown the appropriate selection of possible upgrade products. In my case, as per the screenshots, this included a free upgrade from Live 6 to Live 7. What is very interesting at this stage is that a colleague that i'm collaborating with at the moment is unable to upgrade! Just before writing this i called him to check that he upgraded yesterday as i suggested and no, of course not, hes a drummer. So logging in today, hes unhappy to report its listed as USD119 for the same Live 6 to Live 7. So is this a temporary bug in Ableton or some kind of loyalty reward? The Ableton newsletter quotes the pricing of Live 8 as dependant "on the Ableton products you already own", which suggests a similar thing might be in place for earlier upgrade paths. Whether they TRULY intended this to be free, or it was a percentage discount value that bottomed out in the e-commerce app, or simply a bug... i dont know. Im not going to lose any more keystrokes on the matter though! Free lunch! Hi all,

Just to clarify the “free” upgrade i experienced from Live 6 to Live 7. Those screenshots were not a photoshop effort, but it does appear that this is not as simple as it seemed. First to check: If you log in to the Ableton site (not the forums) and go to Shop, and click Upgrades, you will be shown the appropriate selection of possible upgrade products. In my case, as per the screenshots, this included a free upgrade from Live 6 to Live 7.

What is very interesting at this stage is that a colleague that i’m collaborating with at the moment is unable to upgrade! Just before writing this i called him to check that he upgraded yesterday as i suggested and no, of course not, hes a drummer. So logging in today, hes unhappy to report its listed as USD119 for the same Live 6 to Live 7.

So is this a temporary bug in Ableton or some kind of loyalty reward? The Ableton newsletter quotes the pricing of Live 8 as dependant “on the Ableton products you already own”, which suggests a similar thing might be in place for earlier upgrade paths. Whether they TRULY intended this to be free, or it was a percentage discount value that bottomed out in the e-commerce app, or simply a bug… i dont know. Im not going to lose any more keystrokes on the matter though! Free lunch!

]]> By: easter http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/comment-page-1/#comment-761738 easter Sat, 17 Jan 2009 01:38:34 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/get-an-ableton-live-6-to-live-7-free-upgrade-before-8-even-ships/#comment-761738 humm... this is why i am going to pirate live 8 :( sorry ableton but its too much for me -formally legit user of Live humm… this is why i am going to pirate live 8 :( sorry ableton but its too much for me

-formally legit user of Live

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