Comments on: Automap 3 Pro: New Heads-Up Display, More Flexibility for Dynamic Controllers http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:02:47 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Create Digital Music » Updated Novation ReMOTE SL Line, and the Controller Keyboard Battle Heats Up http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-851289 Create Digital Music » Updated Novation ReMOTE SL Line, and the Controller Keyboard Battle Heats Up Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:36:10 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/#comment-851289 [...] Automap 3 Pro: New Heads-Up Display, More Flexibility for Dynamic Controllers [...] [...] Automap 3 Pro: New Heads-Up Display, More Flexibility for Dynamic Controllers [...]

]]> By: chetan http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-779548 chetan Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:08:09 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/#comment-779548 ya its crazy that theyre charging 30 bucks for the "pro" version. When I bought the controller, I did so under the impression that it was a remarkably easy controller with which to assign controls to software instruments. This is not true, it is no easier, and in some cases a little more confusing, compared to more basic controllers, such as Novation's own X-station, which I also own. This, as many have pointed out, is the result of fallacious marketing, which projects this product as far easier to use and more useful than it actually is. However, to be fair, it does work well with some softwares, particularly Reason. This, along with updates on their website, led me to assume that there would be improvements to the Automap software, and it eventually would be able to do what it promised initially. Now, we learn that they will charge $ 30 for this "service". In other words, when I bought this product, I assumed I would be able to use it to easily map controls to various softwares, or it would do it automatically. However, it was disappointing in this regard, and I assumed it would eventually improve. But now, they want to charge you $ 30 for the "privilege" of using to its full ability a product that you've already paid $ 400-500+ for, and which you bought thinking that any future software improvements to this product would be provided free of charge. AND ... which did not do what it promised initially, in any case. If you think about it, what you should now be able to do with Automap 3 PRO was implicitly implied in their marketing long before they announced this new version. I think this decision is madness, especially given that they now have some competition in the form of M-Audio's Hypercontrol technology. ya its crazy that theyre charging 30 bucks for the “pro” version. When I bought the controller, I did so under the impression that it was a remarkably easy controller with which to assign controls to software instruments. This is not true, it is no easier, and in some cases a little more confusing, compared to more basic controllers, such as Novation’s own X-station, which I also own.
This, as many have pointed out, is the result of fallacious marketing, which projects this product as far easier to use and more useful than it actually is.
However, to be fair, it does work well with some softwares, particularly Reason. This, along with updates on their website, led me to assume that there would be improvements to the Automap software, and it eventually would be able to do what it promised initially.
Now, we learn that they will charge $ 30 for this “service”. In other words, when I bought this product, I assumed I would be able to use it to easily map controls to various softwares, or it would do it automatically. However, it was disappointing in this regard, and I assumed it would eventually improve. But now, they want to charge you $ 30 for the “privilege” of using to its full ability a product that you’ve already paid $ 400-500+ for, and which you bought thinking that any future software improvements to this product would be provided free of charge.
AND … which did not do what it promised initially, in any case. If you think about it, what you should now be able to do with Automap 3 PRO was implicitly implied in their marketing long before they announced this new version.
I think this decision is madness, especially given that they now have some competition in the form of M-Audio’s Hypercontrol technology.

]]> By: joel http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-771740 joel Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:15:27 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/#comment-771740 hey Peter, thanks for responding and sending me to the url. I'm still having issues where I'm not able to control things with logic using the novation midi controller.. Even pressing the up and down arrow s near the display won't establish seleting different instruments in logic pro studio 8... do you know where I can get specific information to controlling plugins or logic's instruments using automap 2.0? hey Peter,

thanks for responding and sending me to the url.
I’m still having issues where I’m not able to control things with logic using the novation midi controller.. Even pressing the up and down arrow s near the display won’t establish seleting different instruments in logic pro studio 8…

do you know where I can get specific information to controlling plugins or logic’s instruments using automap 2.0?

]]> By: James Levine http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-767638 James Levine Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:42:00 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/#comment-767638 supply/demand? I guess a lot of people in their market already have more than one novation controller. Really, I don't get it either. I'm the first person to remind others not to moan over supporting an independent developer's shareware, but this is at best a utility which at best is functional and lets proprietary technologies work. You're paying for cut/paste and for multi-devise support. What they didn't bank on was that my Remote Zero plus my nocturn=Akai's new ableton controller. supply/demand? I guess a lot of people in their market already have more than one novation controller. Really, I don’t get it either. I’m the first person to remind others not to moan over supporting an independent developer’s shareware, but this is at best a utility which at best is functional and lets proprietary technologies work. You’re paying for cut/paste and for multi-devise support.
What they didn’t bank on was that my Remote Zero plus my nocturn=Akai’s new ableton controller.

]]> By: Create Digital Music » New Music Tech Round-Up: NAMM in a Nutshell on CDM http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-766484 Create Digital Music » New Music Tech Round-Up: NAMM in a Nutshell on CDM Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:02:58 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/#comment-766484 [...] Automap 3 Pro from Novation adds a heads-up display and more flexible parameter assignment to the company’s dynamic controller software. That should make it easier than before for Novation keyboards and controllers to automatically control your software. Bad news: the “Pro” means it’s no longer free. A beta is available. [...] [...] Automap 3 Pro from Novation adds a heads-up display and more flexible parameter assignment to the company’s dynamic controller software. That should make it easier than before for Novation keyboards and controllers to automatically control your software. Bad news: the “Pro” means it’s no longer free. A beta is available. [...]

]]> By: Franco http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-766394 Franco Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:46:17 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/#comment-766394 Very well said Peter... I own some great Novation stuff so I'd like to buy a Nocturn to integrate with Logic, and still wishing it comes with Automap "Pro" 3 -not just a limited trial, but a full working version. The new features are definitely promising, but this pricing policy doesn't really make sense, especially compared to a new (and bundled) HyperControl. Very well said Peter… I own some great Novation stuff so I’d like to buy a Nocturn to integrate with Logic, and still wishing it comes with Automap “Pro” 3 -not just a limited trial, but a full working version. The new features are definitely promising, but this pricing policy doesn’t really make sense, especially compared to a new (and bundled) HyperControl.

]]> By: teej http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-765718 teej Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:36:02 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/#comment-765718 that pricing thing is really weird indeed. maybe they paid a 3rd party to do it this time around and are trying to recoop? makes absolutely no sense. that pricing thing is really weird indeed. maybe they paid a 3rd party to do it this time around and are trying to recoop? makes absolutely no sense.

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-765344 Peter Kirn Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:12:15 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/#comment-765344 Oops, link - http://www.keyboardmag.com/article/novation-remote-sl/Sep-06/22976 Oops, link – http://www.keyboardmag.com/article/novation-remote-sl/Sep-06/22976

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-765343 Peter Kirn Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:12:04 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/#comment-765343 Well, as it happens, here's what I wrote in 2006: "In Logic, it’s easy to switch instruments using the arrow keys next to the SL’s display, something you can’t do in Live. But controls for Logic’s instruments and effects were placed in a non-linear fashion. Where Reason’s Automap kept envelope controls on the faders, Logic’s showed up on the rotaries, differently for each instrument. Also, Logic’s controls would sometimes momentarily fail to respond, and the sustain pedal wasn’t mapped correctly. You can adjust some of these settings using the included editor, and Novation has acknowledged these issues and promised a fix. Their documentation for the Live and Logic Automaps also needs to catch up to their excellent, extensive video tutorials and manual chapters on Cubase and Reason." I think part of the problem is really that you're constrained by what happens in the host. Well, as it happens, here’s what I wrote in 2006:

“In Logic, it’s easy to switch instruments using the arrow keys next to the SL’s display, something you can’t do in Live. But controls for Logic’s instruments and effects were placed in a non-linear fashion. Where Reason’s Automap kept envelope controls on the faders, Logic’s showed up on the rotaries, differently for each instrument. Also, Logic’s controls would sometimes momentarily fail to respond, and the sustain pedal wasn’t mapped correctly. You can adjust some of these settings using the included editor, and Novation has acknowledged these issues and promised a fix. Their documentation for the Live and Logic Automaps also needs to catch up to their excellent, extensive video tutorials and manual chapters on Cubase and Reason.”

I think part of the problem is really that you’re constrained by what happens in the host.

]]> By: Create Digital Music » M-Audio Axiom Pro Offers Novation Automap Rival – If You’ve Got the Right DAW http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-765338 Create Digital Music » M-Audio Axiom Pro Offers Novation Automap Rival – If You’ve Got the Right DAW Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:07:11 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/19/automap-3-pro-new-heads-up-display-more-flexibility-for-dynamic-controllers/#comment-765338 [...] Novation was refreshing their Automap software for NAMM, M-Audio was unveiling their own dynamic controller technology, called [...] [...] Novation was refreshing their Automap software for NAMM, M-Audio was unveiling their own dynamic controller technology, called [...]

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