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	<title>Comments on: Moog Adds CV Control to their Theremin, Discontinues Minimoog Old School</title>
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		<title>By: Wooperman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wooperman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an Old School. I bought it really cheap 1700, it was a customer return, but impossible to tell it was not brand spanking new. So I couldnt pass it up. In my case, it was about 700 bux cheaper than a full-on voyager. I already had a midi/cv converter so I am set. But the reason I am here is because I am trying to justify trading in for a Voyager. I&#039;m wondering if the Old School will become a collectors item.
  I will say this about the Old School. It does cause you to experiment more, sometimes due to frustration, but sometimes because in tweaking, you go beyond what you wanted you get happy mistakes. You do get some xtras with the Old School. CV/gate outputs that are only availabe  with the VX-351. Plus more modulation possiblities (every  knob in mod 1 &amp; 2 has one extra option, so you could say 6 extra x their combinations). But no XY modulation.
  Lack of midi doesn&#039;t bother me as much as lack of patch save. 
  For a creative tool, excellent, but for a johnny on the spot synth, I&#039;m actually looking forward to getting a Moog Phatty for that. 
  If I could sell the Old school for same price, I think I would, and then quickly get a used voyager w/midi, think about it kiddies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an Old School. I bought it really cheap 1700, it was a customer return, but impossible to tell it was not brand spanking new. So I couldnt pass it up. In my case, it was about 700 bux cheaper than a full-on voyager. I already had a midi/cv converter so I am set. But the reason I am here is because I am trying to justify trading in for a Voyager. I&#8217;m wondering if the Old School will become a collectors item.<br />
  I will say this about the Old School. It does cause you to experiment more, sometimes due to frustration, but sometimes because in tweaking, you go beyond what you wanted you get happy mistakes. You do get some xtras with the Old School. CV/gate outputs that are only availabe  with the VX-351. Plus more modulation possiblities (every  knob in mod 1 &amp; 2 has one extra option, so you could say 6 extra x their combinations). But no XY modulation.<br />
  Lack of midi doesn&#8217;t bother me as much as lack of patch save.<br />
  For a creative tool, excellent, but for a johnny on the spot synth, I&#8217;m actually looking forward to getting a Moog Phatty for that.<br />
  If I could sell the Old school for same price, I think I would, and then quickly get a used voyager w/midi, think about it kiddies.</p>
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		<title>By: Create Digital Music &#187; New Music Tech Round-Up: NAMM in a Nutshell on CDM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Create Digital Music &#187; New Music Tech Round-Up: NAMM in a Nutshell on CDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of control voltage, the Moog Etherwave Plus adds CV outs to their fantastic Theremin â€“ you get separate CV for each hand, making the Etherwave a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ernesto</title>
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		<dc:creator>ernesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love my voyager.  Can&#039;t find a toyish detail on it and I don&#039;t need more than the wonderful single voice it gives me.  ohhh beautiful triangle waves...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love my voyager.  Can&#8217;t find a toyish detail on it and I don&#8217;t need more than the wonderful single voice it gives me.  ohhh beautiful triangle waves&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, someone certainly bought them, so it made sense to someone. But yes, it seems like if you&#039;re going to pony up for an Old School you&#039;d just get the standard Voyager. If you want to use the Voyager with just CV or ignore the patch memory, you still can, as on the OS; you just have a choice. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, someone certainly bought them, so it made sense to someone. But yes, it seems like if you&#8217;re going to pony up for an Old School you&#8217;d just get the standard Voyager. If you want to use the Voyager with just CV or ignore the patch memory, you still can, as on the OS; you just have a choice. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of the OS, i believe that its a nice &quot;toy&quot; and the fact that it hasn&#039;t got midi and other digital stuff inside, makes it more specific..somehow it screams for sound design every time you touch it...but...at this price and polyphony...its really stupid. As jmelnyk wrote,they could have dropped the third oscillator and sell it cheaper, with a logical price...they could even have made the chassis from strong plastic like little phatty...but, they are like Ferrari, they have their specific customers and they don&#039;t care about the other musicians..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of the OS, i believe that its a nice &#8220;toy&#8221; and the fact that it hasn&#8217;t got midi and other digital stuff inside, makes it more specific..somehow it screams for sound design every time you touch it&#8230;but&#8230;at this price and polyphony&#8230;its really stupid. As jmelnyk wrote,they could have dropped the third oscillator and sell it cheaper, with a logical price&#8230;they could even have made the chassis from strong plastic like little phatty&#8230;but, they are like Ferrari, they have their specific customers and they don&#8217;t care about the other musicians..</p>
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		<title>By: Eoj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eoj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have absolutely no problem with no patch storage on a analog, in fact i prefer it because I cant stand the whole thing of the knobs not being in the right place... give me 360deg pots or noting at all. Thats why I was relay drawn to the OS (apart from the price). BUT NO MIDI?! That was the funniest joke i had ever heard! I was in stitches for days.. cheapskates!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have absolutely no problem with no patch storage on a analog, in fact i prefer it because I cant stand the whole thing of the knobs not being in the right place&#8230; give me 360deg pots or noting at all. Thats why I was relay drawn to the OS (apart from the price). BUT NO MIDI?! That was the funniest joke i had ever heard! I was in stitches for days.. cheapskates!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh please, not another monophonic real analog for hundreds of dollars! Moog nowadays responds to collector&#039;s and &quot;geek&quot; needs. They could make at least a 4 voice voyager synth for the same cost, but they insist on making &quot;cheaper&quot; and useless (for their price) synths like little phatty or the ridiculously overpriced Taurus...

They could even sell their overpriced gear as modules...I have sent an email to them suggesting this. Instead of Moogerfoogers, make modules with oscs, filter units etc...like Doepfer. They didn&#039;t even reply with a &quot;thank you for your suggestion&quot; sentence. Moog name is state of the art for analog synths but they are also stupid, elitistic and arrogant...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh please, not another monophonic real analog for hundreds of dollars! Moog nowadays responds to collector&#8217;s and &#8220;geek&#8221; needs. They could make at least a 4 voice voyager synth for the same cost, but they insist on making &#8220;cheaper&#8221; and useless (for their price) synths like little phatty or the ridiculously overpriced Taurus&#8230;</p>
<p>They could even sell their overpriced gear as modules&#8230;I have sent an email to them suggesting this. Instead of Moogerfoogers, make modules with oscs, filter units etc&#8230;like Doepfer. They didn&#8217;t even reply with a &#8220;thank you for your suggestion&#8221; sentence. Moog name is state of the art for analog synths but they are also stupid, elitistic and arrogant&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Norheim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Norheim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 03:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;me, iâ€™m happy with my voyager and a little sad i donâ€™t have the funds for an old school too.&quot;

Ditto. But now I can control the Voyager RME and some Moogerfoogers with my Haken Continuum AND a Etherwave Plus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;me, iâ€™m happy with my voyager and a little sad i donâ€™t have the funds for an old school too.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ditto. But now I can control the Voyager RME and some Moogerfoogers with my Haken Continuum AND a Etherwave Plus!</p>
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		<title>By: lilith</title>
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		<dc:creator>lilith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be more than happy with a NanoPhatty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be more than happy with a NanoPhatty</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, right, exactly - I&#039;m not sure about it being a &quot;collector&#039;s item&quot; for exactly that reason. It&#039;ll have to compete with the CV-only original. ;) I don&#039;t expect it&#039;ll lose much value, but I wouldn&#039;t buy it for that reason.

I&#039;d love to have a monophonic, truly old-school slimmed-down synth from Moog Music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, right, exactly &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure about it being a &#8220;collector&#8217;s item&#8221; for exactly that reason. It&#8217;ll have to compete with the CV-only original. ;) I don&#8217;t expect it&#8217;ll lose much value, but I wouldn&#8217;t buy it for that reason.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to have a monophonic, truly old-school slimmed-down synth from Moog Music.</p>
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