Comments on: Future Grooves: Breeding Beats Like DNA, Lemur + Ableton Live + Max 5

By: wasili

wasili — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:36:50 +0000

the first video was AWESOME!!!!!!from 14:18 especially,with the variations he switched between.reminds me of the sound variations in kore 2(which i absolutely love).
i’ve been thinking of getting a lemur for some time now,and after seeing this video i am definitely convinced that this is what i need to take my performances to the next level:customizing it to fit my workflow perfectly.together with KORE 2 this will rock!!!!!!!!

By: tonvibration

tonvibration — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:21:07 +0000

@Brian Park

That “building blocks” on the TouchOSC sounds interesting! Although itÂ´s again using predefined blocks… but this would be a big step. Actually i wonder, that there is no software-company who made an editor for controls on a normal touchscreen – will sell millions. (ups…isnÂ´t there this “Usine”-programm, will have to figure that out)
So furthermore i guess that the software of the lemur is at least maybe the bigger part than the hardware. And thats the point the most people donÂ´t have in mind while talking about the lemur – itÂ´s the only product with a editor for controls that can be used by joe average (with a little time amount).
But for shure – the lemur got no accelerator. Would be to heavy to wave it around anyway ;-) So one pro of the i-phone apps is the handheld factor! To say it clear: i love those i-phone apps. And they just have started.
But to my opinion, it will take years until they are compareable to a actual Lemur…. and who knows where the Jazzmutants are already at this time….
Anyway great work you do (i knew your video also before)- go on!

By: Peter Kirn

Peter Kirn — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:04:56 +0000

@Ed: I have no indication that that is the case. Notice they reduced pricing on both Lemur and Dexter — which are essentially the same hardware. And they’ve announced Dexter pricing is permanent. I’m hoping Lemur V2 pricing will also wind up being extended permanently.

By: Ed M.

Ed M. — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:43:24 +0000

Does anyone know if the recent price drop of the lemur is a hint that Jazzmutant is trying to clear inventory because of a hardware refresh? It must be approximately 3 years since the release of the lemur and I would think the hardware could be refined … maybe slimmer, more surface area, etc …

By: Brian Park

Brian Park — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:35:48 +0000

@tonvibration

I totally agree that the iPod Touch setup is just a fun little thing and doesn’t ACTUALLY compare to a Lemur. That being said, TouchOSC is about to release a “building blocks” version of its software, and hell, that shit is fun. Plus, does the Lemur have an accellerometer? Right now my iTouch’s accellerometer is connected to a wah (x axis) and a beat repeater (y axis) and then I run ableton’s arp through it for hours of fun.

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By: bliss

bliss — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:45:05 +0000

That DyNAmic sequencer is the best thing I’ve seen for promoting the Lemur, that’s for sure. Everything else I’ve seen is way bland by comparison – like, who would bother kind of bland.

By: R0NiN

R0NiN — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:26:42 +0000

I’ve just got hold of a Lemur (paying more money for a second-hand one a few weeks ago than it costs to get a new one in the current sale – bollocks) and I agree it’s for people who want to fine-tune their own custom control design.
On the weekend I did the first set with the Lemur replacing 4 other MIDI controllers. Although the Lemur patch needs some tweaking after a live show it definitely fits in nicely to my setup – mainly because I’m moving away from what was basically live remixing of some pre-rendered audio phrases to working from some very basic elements and improvising with a complex control setup.
So, I do spend all my time making these control setups, but I love it… plus, I came to the conclusion I’m a better live performer than a studio-based track maker and made the switch.
Whether the lack of tactile knob tweaking with the Lemur turns out to be as frustrating as I initially predicted remains to be seen!

By: tonvibration

tonvibration — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 12:21:41 +0000

The tool you use always influence your output. IÂ´m saying this as musician for over 20 years and as a PHD in psychology and ergonomic science. I bought my Lemmur half a year ago and it changed my way to make music! Now i use more detailed effect controls for instance and so the whole music changed a little bit. So – even without MAX as in the “DyNAmic” – the Lemur have an impact in your perfomance. (btw: DyNAmic needs Live7, also the famous liveAPI… and i still have to use live6 cause all my money for new labtop has gone for the lemur….isnÂ´t that ironic? ;-)

@ Brian Park
I donÂ´t think that it the i-phone apps are compareable to the lemur. Not only because the size of the screen (hey, just buy 4 i-pod-touch…. still cheaper than a lemur), but because of the flexiblity. In the Touch OSC you can use different presets, but you can not build your controls. To me having a touchscreen where i have to use presets (someone other designed) doesnÂ´t make any sense – than i can still use hardware…. (but it is a nice gadget for a low price) But thats a point: The lemur only makes sense if youÂ´re willing to invest time in building controls (that time you donÂ´t have anymore for “making” music – making music becomes making instruments – but thats great isnÂ´t it?)

By: Mikael BjÃ¶rk

Mikael BjÃ¶rk — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 11:47:20 +0000

Just to clarify – I’m not the one working with “talented vocalist” Esben Schack. The one behind the Lemur in that clip is my good friend Andreas Wetterberg.