Comments on: Guest Blog: Digital, Artists, Labels and the Crisis of Plumeting Expectations http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/02/12/digital-artists-labels-and-expectation/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:56:46 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Christopher http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/02/12/digital-artists-labels-and-expectation/comment-page-1/#comment-890276 Christopher Fri, 08 May 2009 09:21:40 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/?p=5021#comment-890276 I enjoyed this article allot, it gave me a good feeling. I can relate to what was being said about reaching out to those people who occupy the same surroundings, in addition to establishing an online presence. I'm not much of a blogger though, but it seems that these days that's the only way one might be taken seriously as a professional. I've been working in the industry behind the scenes for 15 years with people like Pras (fugees), Wu-Tang Clan and C&C Music Factory, but then again who among us hasn't been working with professionals? Right now I'm working on an online radio station and we're more than happy to play your music. The site is a Beta tester and we have an open source like community making improvements on a regular basis. Feel free to chime in or visit with a critical mind. Keep doing your thing I'll be doing mine. Peace Shallydo!!! I enjoyed this article allot, it gave me a good feeling. I can relate to what was being said about reaching out to those people who occupy the same surroundings, in addition to establishing an online presence.

I’m not much of a blogger though, but it seems that these days that’s the only way one might be taken seriously as a professional.

I’ve been working in the industry behind the scenes for 15 years with people like Pras (fugees), Wu-Tang Clan and C&C Music Factory, but then again who among us hasn’t been working with professionals?

Right now I’m working on an online radio station and we’re more than happy to play your music. The site is a Beta tester and we have an open source like community making improvements on a regular basis. Feel free to chime in or visit with a critical mind.

Keep doing your thing I’ll be doing mine. Peace Shallydo!!!

]]> By: Manifesto contra o mercado digital « Blog do Ilan http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/02/12/digital-artists-labels-and-expectation/comment-page-1/#comment-834396 Manifesto contra o mercado digital « Blog do Ilan Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:24:51 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/?p=5021#comment-834396 [...] post recente do blog Create Digital Music, (Digital, Artists, Labels and the Crisis of Plumeting Expectations) me inspirou em escrever esse artigo e a rever os meus conceitos sobre o mercado digital, de uma [...] [...] post recente do blog Create Digital Music, (Digital, Artists, Labels and the Crisis of Plumeting Expectations) me inspirou em escrever esse artigo e a rever os meus conceitos sobre o mercado digital, de uma [...]

]]> By: Downpressor http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/02/12/digital-artists-labels-and-expectation/comment-page-1/#comment-798024 Downpressor Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:44:06 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/?p=5021#comment-798024 @L5 <blockquote> This is my issue. Make great music but cannot get signed, released or distributed. I hope to change this but for now it has been David and Goliath with David losing every time.</blockquote> Recently I made a deal with a "known" singer to voice a track for me. The guy in question shook hands with me in front of others and then walked out just before we were supposed to record. I got stuck paying the cancelation fee for the studio. He is a good singer, but one thing is for sure, I've put the word out to every other producer I know that this singer doesnt honor deals. This kind of thing and the time I used to spend chasing clients to pay their bills for mixes I did, etc. make it real clear to me why I want someone to be vouched for before I'll do business with them. @L5

This is my issue. Make great music but cannot get signed, released or distributed. I hope to change this but for now it has been David and Goliath with David losing every time.

Recently I made a deal with a “known” singer to voice a track for me. The guy in question shook hands with me in front of others and then walked out just before we were supposed to record. I got stuck paying the cancelation fee for the studio. He is a good singer, but one thing is for sure, I’ve put the word out to every other producer I know that this singer doesnt honor deals. This kind of thing and the time I used to spend chasing clients to pay their bills for mixes I did, etc. make it real clear to me why I want someone to be vouched for before I’ll do business with them.

]]> By: bliss http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/02/12/digital-artists-labels-and-expectation/comment-page-1/#comment-795718 bliss Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:47:59 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/?p=5021#comment-795718 <b>@ Damien Sol</b> Lol at the McDonald's comment. So true! @ Damien Sol

Lol at the McDonald’s comment. So true!

]]> By: Manifesto contra o mercado digital | Ilan Kriger http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/02/12/digital-artists-labels-and-expectation/comment-page-1/#comment-795566 Manifesto contra o mercado digital | Ilan Kriger Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:55:31 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/?p=5021#comment-795566 [...] post recente do blog Create Digital Music, (Digital, Artists, Labels and the Crisis of Plumeting Expectations) me inspirou em escrever esse artigo e a rever os meus conceitos sobre o mercado digital, de uma [...] [...] post recente do blog Create Digital Music, (Digital, Artists, Labels and the Crisis of Plumeting Expectations) me inspirou em escrever esse artigo e a rever os meus conceitos sobre o mercado digital, de uma [...]

]]> By: Around the Net 7 | undomondo http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/02/12/digital-artists-labels-and-expectation/comment-page-1/#comment-795499 Around the Net 7 | undomondo Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:18:25 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/?p=5021#comment-795499 [...] Digital, Artists, Labels and the Crisis of Plummeting Expectations. “For much of this generation, the idea of marketing begins and ends with “thanks for the [...] [...] Digital, Artists, Labels and the Crisis of Plummeting Expectations. “For much of this generation, the idea of marketing begins and ends with “thanks for the [...]

]]> By: Damian Sol http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/02/12/digital-artists-labels-and-expectation/comment-page-1/#comment-795140 Damian Sol Mon, 16 Feb 2009 03:17:36 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/?p=5021#comment-795140 One important thing to consider when comparing meatspace efforts vs. online is, "What does my audience want?" In this case, the audience is people with the gigs, the labels, the record stores, the clubs, i.e. the people hiring artists. No matter who you are dealing with, it is best to learn what system works best for them and approach them that way. I have gotten gigs from random emails to certain promoters, while others won't get back to me via email no matter what. Bottom line -- find out what your audience wants and bring it to them. If you are now grumbling about having to "play the game" or jump through hoops, well, that's how it works. Just like if you want a job at McDonald's, you have to play the McDonald's game by their rules. One important thing to consider when comparing meatspace efforts vs. online is, “What does my audience want?”

In this case, the audience is people with the gigs, the labels, the record stores, the clubs, i.e. the people hiring artists.

No matter who you are dealing with, it is best to learn what system works best for them and approach them that way. I have gotten gigs from random emails to certain promoters, while others won’t get back to me via email no matter what.

Bottom line — find out what your audience wants and bring it to them.

If you are now grumbling about having to “play the game” or jump through hoops, well, that’s how it works. Just like if you want a job at McDonald’s, you have to play the McDonald’s game by their rules.

]]> By: gs up hoes down http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/02/12/digital-artists-labels-and-expectation/comment-page-1/#comment-794062 gs up hoes down Sun, 15 Feb 2009 05:43:42 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/?p=5021#comment-794062 AMEN! AMEN!

]]> By: Create Digital Music Article about Music Industry Expectations - Electro Cinema! http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/02/12/digital-artists-labels-and-expectation/comment-page-1/#comment-793761 Create Digital Music Article about Music Industry Expectations - Electro Cinema! Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:09:33 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/?p=5021#comment-793761 [...] this article Guest Blog: Digital, Artists, Labels and the Crisis of Plumeting Expectations and many other great reviews/tutorials/news updates on is wonderful blog! I love this dang blog so [...] [...] this article Guest Blog: Digital, Artists, Labels and the Crisis of Plumeting Expectations and many other great reviews/tutorials/news updates on is wonderful blog! I love this dang blog so [...]

]]> By: L5 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/02/12/digital-artists-labels-and-expectation/comment-page-1/#comment-793709 L5 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 00:30:19 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/?p=5021#comment-793709 Thanks for the replies to my comments guys; I too am appreciating this article & blog. One thing I would like to mention is that Sasha and Digweed (for those who don't know) are the biggest earning Djs in the world and are often making over 200,000 for one gig. On New Years Eve they will chase the sun and earn over a million pounds as they fly around the night. This Dj scene in the Dance world is alive and well and has much money to share that is not. The A&R managers of the big labels (be it Sony or the long lost Hooj) have forced themselves into a filtration situation whereby only those who are vouched for are allowed in. This is my issue. Make great music but cannot get signed, released or distributed. I hope to change this but for now it has been David and Goliath with David losing every time. Thanks for the replies to my comments guys; I too am appreciating this article & blog. One thing I would like to mention is that Sasha and Digweed (for those who don’t know) are the biggest earning Djs in the world and are often making over 200,000 for one gig. On New Years Eve they will chase the sun and earn over a million pounds as they fly around the night. This Dj scene in the Dance world is alive and well and has much money to share that is not. The A&R managers of the big labels (be it Sony or the long lost Hooj) have forced themselves into a filtration situation whereby only those who are vouched for are allowed in. This is my issue. Make great music but cannot get signed, released or distributed. I hope to change this but for now it has been David and Goliath with David losing every time.

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