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		<title>By: MPC5000 all you need with OS 2.0? &#187; Chip Collection &#124; Propellerhead Reason &#124; Free Reason Refill &#124; Digital Music</title>
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		<dc:creator>MPC5000 all you need with OS 2.0? &#187; Chip Collection &#124; Propellerhead Reason &#124; Free Reason Refill &#124; Digital Music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Previously: http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2008/08/03/dont-buy-an-akai-mpc-5000-until-you-read-this/ Create Digital Music: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/03/05/mpc5000-gets-20-os-does-it-stack-up-to-jjos-alternative-fir... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Previously: <a href="http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2008/08/03/dont-buy-an-akai-mpc-5000-until-you-read-this/" rel="nofollow">http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2008/08/03/dont-buy-an-akai-mpc-5000-until-you-read-this/</a> Create Digital Music: <a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/03/05/mpc5000-gets-20-os-does-it-stack-up-to-jjos-alternative-fir.." rel="nofollow">http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/03/05/mpc5000-gets-20-os-does-it-stack-up-to-jjos-alternative-fir..</a>. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: starving student</title>
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		<dc:creator>starving student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not so short I guess, but for the hard heads just to clarify, I am an ableton Live nut, I&#039;ve been using it since version 1 and will not ever stop using it.
my point is just because i&#039;m an ableton fanboy that does not mean that my sense of reality is suspended, ,, I&#039;m on the ableton site all the time talking about comparing features but there is no way that the mpc feels like less of an instrument than a computer desktop or laptop for that matter running any software. as a matter of fact the mpc is more of what all of you went from desktops to laptops for, because a laptop was closer to the feel of an instrument, well the mpc is even closer. here&#039;s a better analogy-- the mpc is actualy a computer right, it&#039;s got software inside it and a controller that surrounds it, the controller and software are intergrated much better than any other type of computer and controller besides other drummachines, so which one is closer to a set of drums.....the mpc, it sure as hell is not a laptop hooked up to your novation or mpd or usb whatever, thats all i&#039;m sayin and i know you all know this already so then why talk about mpcs like you don&#039;t know why us dumb dumb mpc users still use them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not so short I guess, but for the hard heads just to clarify, I am an ableton Live nut, I&#8217;ve been using it since version 1 and will not ever stop using it.<br />
my point is just because i&#8217;m an ableton fanboy that does not mean that my sense of reality is suspended, ,, I&#8217;m on the ableton site all the time talking about comparing features but there is no way that the mpc feels like less of an instrument than a computer desktop or laptop for that matter running any software. as a matter of fact the mpc is more of what all of you went from desktops to laptops for, because a laptop was closer to the feel of an instrument, well the mpc is even closer. here&#8217;s a better analogy&#8211; the mpc is actualy a computer right, it&#8217;s got software inside it and a controller that surrounds it, the controller and software are intergrated much better than any other type of computer and controller besides other drummachines, so which one is closer to a set of drums&#8230;..the mpc, it sure as hell is not a laptop hooked up to your novation or mpd or usb whatever, thats all i&#8217;m sayin and i know you all know this already so then why talk about mpcs like you don&#8217;t know why us dumb dumb mpc users still use them?</p>
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		<title>By: starving student</title>
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		<dc:creator>starving student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok I&#039;ll be short and quick, if you can&#039;t understand why someone would prefer an mpc over a laptop then (gulp) you&#039;re not a musician
think about it, nobody ever has to explain why they would rather play a guitar than steinbergs
virtual guitarist or a moog rather than minimonsta or other moog emulating software. honestly you guys are killing me. a computer is a computer and an instrument is an instrument, certainly a computer can be an instrument but it has some ways to go before it
can compete on that basis with a turntable. comparing features of different os&#039;s is one thing but comparing a computer to an mpc i&#039;m talking about the two boxes themselves is like comparing apples and oranges. they&#039;ve made controllers that integrate with computers but they have in no way made computers and controllers that integrate with humans on the level of an mpc or any other stand alone instrument for that matter. any musician would know this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok I&#8217;ll be short and quick, if you can&#8217;t understand why someone would prefer an mpc over a laptop then (gulp) you&#8217;re not a musician<br />
think about it, nobody ever has to explain why they would rather play a guitar than steinbergs<br />
virtual guitarist or a moog rather than minimonsta or other moog emulating software. honestly you guys are killing me. a computer is a computer and an instrument is an instrument, certainly a computer can be an instrument but it has some ways to go before it<br />
can compete on that basis with a turntable. comparing features of different os&#8217;s is one thing but comparing a computer to an mpc i&#8217;m talking about the two boxes themselves is like comparing apples and oranges. they&#8217;ve made controllers that integrate with computers but they have in no way made computers and controllers that integrate with humans on the level of an mpc or any other stand alone instrument for that matter. any musician would know this.</p>
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		<title>By: diggiti</title>
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		<dc:creator>diggiti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 05:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the MPC5000 is a monstrosity !

Can someone ELSE to create adrum machine for JJOS to run on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the MPC5000 is a monstrosity !</p>
<p>Can someone ELSE to create adrum machine for JJOS to run on</p>
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		<title>By: diggiti</title>
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		<dc:creator>diggiti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 05:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People havent learned yet

Theres no reason to buy a Brand New AKAI MPC
Why record Vocals,etc ON the a Drum Machine when I have Protools,Ableton live,Logic?
The ONLY thing you use the MPC for is the Sequencer. The timing is perfect</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People havent learned yet</p>
<p>Theres no reason to buy a Brand New AKAI MPC<br />
Why record Vocals,etc ON the a Drum Machine when I have Protools,Ableton live,Logic?<br />
The ONLY thing you use the MPC for is the Sequencer. The timing is perfect</p>
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		<title>By: clarity</title>
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		<dc:creator>clarity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 03:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget about the Vailixi OS for the MPC3000 from Mansell Labs - www.mansell-labs.com
 
Yes, it&#039;s real, and it works beautifully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget about the Vailixi OS for the MPC3000 from Mansell Labs &#8211; <a href="http://www.mansell-labs.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mansell-labs.com</a></p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s real, and it works beautifully.</p>
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		<title>By: N.</title>
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		<dc:creator>N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 00:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Funny you should try to make that point N.

EVERY one of the models you have mentioned has had the operating system updated AFTER the machine went out of production AND the MPC60 and the MPC3000 have had their OS updated by a third party, Namely Roger Lynnâ€™s company that he formed after separateing from Akai. Also the MPC3000 has several operating system improvements that are available here, http://www.mpc3000.com/updated_os.htm

So there are Two Different companies that are making third party OS for the MPC3000.&quot;

Touche&#039;, yourk.  

But i would think that all these machines were fairly popular, even before those OS updates.  then again, maybe I&#039;m wrong about that too. 

Like I said in my first post, I&#039;m not putting down the JJOS, since I&#039;m pretty sure it&#039;s an improvement over the original OS... i just haven&#039;t felt compelled to use it yet.  The original OS is working fine for me. Call it laziness, if you&#039;d like. Call it blissful ignorance. I&#039;m fine with that :) 

If and when the moment comes that I find myself needing extra functionality, I&#039;ll be sure to give JJOS a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Funny you should try to make that point N.</p>
<p>EVERY one of the models you have mentioned has had the operating system updated AFTER the machine went out of production AND the MPC60 and the MPC3000 have had their OS updated by a third party, Namely Roger Lynnâ€™s company that he formed after separateing from Akai. Also the MPC3000 has several operating system improvements that are available here, <a href="http://www.mpc3000.com/updated_os.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mpc3000.com/updated_os.htm</a></p>
<p>So there are Two Different companies that are making third party OS for the MPC3000.&#8221;</p>
<p>Touche&#8217;, yourk.  </p>
<p>But i would think that all these machines were fairly popular, even before those OS updates.  then again, maybe I&#8217;m wrong about that too. </p>
<p>Like I said in my first post, I&#8217;m not putting down the JJOS, since I&#8217;m pretty sure it&#8217;s an improvement over the original OS&#8230; i just haven&#8217;t felt compelled to use it yet.  The original OS is working fine for me. Call it laziness, if you&#8217;d like. Call it blissful ignorance. I&#8217;m fine with that :) </p>
<p>If and when the moment comes that I find myself needing extra functionality, I&#8217;ll be sure to give JJOS a try.</p>
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		<title>By: IT CROWDED</title>
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		<dc:creator>IT CROWDED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 21:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work on a computer 8-12 hours a day.

The last thing i want to see when i get home is a Monitor screen.

Thanks goodness for my MPC2000 and the hardware synths that it controls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work on a computer 8-12 hours a day.</p>
<p>The last thing i want to see when i get home is a Monitor screen.</p>
<p>Thanks goodness for my MPC2000 and the hardware synths that it controls.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Halm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren Halm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 20:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. So many haters. I use a 2500 original OS and 1000 JJos right now. I like working with the hardware. Between that and my Allen and Heath mixer, I can leave the laptop off while working with parts. Not to try to flame on a site thats pretty much all about making laptop music, but do people really still care about watching dudes flip between scenes in Ableton in a live setting? Watching electronic music live these days is as dull as it was 10 years ago. At least nowadays we have people like Elijah Torn and Micah Frank using technology with real instruments and alternative, interesting control mediums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. So many haters. I use a 2500 original OS and 1000 JJos right now. I like working with the hardware. Between that and my Allen and Heath mixer, I can leave the laptop off while working with parts. Not to try to flame on a site thats pretty much all about making laptop music, but do people really still care about watching dudes flip between scenes in Ableton in a live setting? Watching electronic music live these days is as dull as it was 10 years ago. At least nowadays we have people like Elijah Torn and Micah Frank using technology with real instruments and alternative, interesting control mediums.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Cunningham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip Cunningham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;People use hardware (such as the MPC) because they donâ€™t like using computers for music.&quot;

Amen to that! A setup where you aren&#039;t able to check e-mail, twitter, facebook, myspace, cdm, make blog, 8bitcollective etc is an ideal one for me. Glad people are chiming in on this topic as I&#039;ve always been interested in an MPC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People use hardware (such as the MPC) because they donâ€™t like using computers for music.&#8221;</p>
<p>Amen to that! A setup where you aren&#8217;t able to check e-mail, twitter, facebook, myspace, cdm, make blog, 8bitcollective etc is an ideal one for me. Glad people are chiming in on this topic as I&#8217;ve always been interested in an MPC.</p>
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