Comments on: Garritan Rescues Giga Sampling Technology, Talks Open Standards http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:02:47 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Bernard Chavonnet http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-893913 Bernard Chavonnet Wed, 13 May 2009 08:42:15 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/#comment-893913 If you are on Mac, then you should check G-Player at www.soundlib.com/gplayer . This is native GigaStudio file player with a brand new audio engine based on the Giga format. No conversion required and very low CPU and RAM usage. G-Player can even play and streams Giga files with compressed samples (most big pianos). For example the 880 MB Bosendorfer 275, if you want to play it in Kontakt, you need to convert it and that will take 1.7 GB of additional hard disk space. G-Player plays it directly and therefore will use half the streaming of any other converted solution, leaving your computer with more resources for your project. If you are on Mac, then you should check G-Player at http://www.soundlib.com/gplayer . This is native GigaStudio file player with a brand new audio engine based on the Giga format. No conversion required and very low CPU and RAM usage. G-Player can even play and streams Giga files with compressed samples (most big pianos). For example the 880 MB Bosendorfer 275, if you want to play it in Kontakt, you need to convert it and that will take 1.7 GB of additional hard disk space. G-Player plays it directly and therefore will use half the streaming of any other converted solution, leaving your computer with more resources for your project.

]]> By: aj washington http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-887086 aj washington Mon, 04 May 2009 19:03:01 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/#comment-887086 What is so good about Giga ? Well there's a heap of features that work brilliantly..Like the kernal streaming and the mixer .The mix environment in G3 Orchestra is phenomenal ! ajw What is so good about Giga ? Well there’s a heap of features that work brilliantly..Like the kernal streaming and the mixer .The mix environment in G3 Orchestra is phenomenal ! ajw

]]> By: quantize http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-865410 quantize Mon, 13 Apr 2009 00:57:06 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/#comment-865410 wakey wakey http://www.soundlib.com/gplayer/ wakey wakey

http://www.soundlib.com/gplayer/

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-858129 Peter Kirn Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:55:52 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/#comment-858129 Well, and for that reason, you really want to build a Kontakt library if you're building a library for Kontakt. ;) I really don't envy the JOB of going through this code, but yes, I think it's a big deal. Well, and for that reason, you really want to build a Kontakt library if you’re building a library for Kontakt. ;)

I really don’t envy the JOB of going through this code, but yes, I think it’s a big deal.

]]> By: CPRoth http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-858124 CPRoth Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:37:11 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/#comment-858124 @ Garth & Peter... Agreed on the feature set of Kontakt. I'm a happy Kontakt/NI user for a long time. And there were things about GIGA that were truly frustrating for me. But there's a lot more 'under the hood' stuff going on in GIGA that I don't even pretend to understand but can see the difference in using the Kontakt conversions of the same instruments (and I'm not even getting into the "Performance" sets). I could load up my turnkey PC (XP, 2GB RAM) in a GIGA performance with 16-24 MIDI channels of Vienna instruments and GIGA would just keep cruising. I've made up a 16ch 'basic' 4 section string Multi in Kontakt from converted Vienna strings and no matter what I try to do with the memory load/voices in Kontakt, the PC still chokes a bit from lack of memory and sometimes screws up the samples themselves (like holding down a sustaining note, and hearing it's pitch shift about 2 secs into the sample). Just saying there was more to GIGA then what the end user had access to (which wasn't a whole lot to begin with!). That's why this is such welcome news, and IMHO, I think of all the major players in the sampling world, this is the right guy for the right job. best @ Garth & Peter…

Agreed on the feature set of Kontakt. I’m a happy Kontakt/NI user for a long time. And there were things about GIGA that were truly frustrating for me. But there’s a lot more ‘under the hood’ stuff going on in GIGA that I don’t even pretend to understand but can see the difference in using the Kontakt conversions of the same instruments (and I’m not even getting into the “Performance” sets).

I could load up my turnkey PC (XP, 2GB RAM) in a GIGA performance with 16-24 MIDI channels of Vienna instruments and GIGA would just keep cruising. I’ve made up a 16ch ‘basic’ 4 section string Multi in Kontakt from converted Vienna strings and no matter what I try to do with the memory load/voices in Kontakt, the PC still chokes a bit from lack of memory and sometimes screws up the samples themselves (like holding down a sustaining note, and hearing it’s pitch shift about 2 secs into the sample). Just saying there was more to GIGA then what the end user had access to (which wasn’t a whole lot to begin with!).

That’s why this is such welcome news, and IMHO, I think of all the major players in the sampling world, this is the right guy for the right job.

best

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-856004 Peter Kirn Sun, 05 Apr 2009 03:41:12 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/#comment-856004 Garth, I think the other issue is interchange, which would require native file write capability. But yes, absolutely, the rest of the sampling world has moved on. ARIA is a sophisticated sampling engine, too, and yet Gary obviously feels there's something to be gained from going through all of this code. Guess we'll find out if he's right. But yes, that's not to take away from Kontakt, and if the import is working for you, by all means have at it ... that's not something I've been able to test; I just don't have a lot of soundware. As I said, I still like the idea of having a common-denominator format like sfz so you aren't reliant on anything. ;) Garth, I think the other issue is interchange, which would require native file write capability. But yes, absolutely, the rest of the sampling world has moved on. ARIA is a sophisticated sampling engine, too, and yet Gary obviously feels there’s something to be gained from going through all of this code. Guess we’ll find out if he’s right.

But yes, that’s not to take away from Kontakt, and if the import is working for you, by all means have at it … that’s not something I’ve been able to test; I just don’t have a lot of soundware.

As I said, I still like the idea of having a common-denominator format like sfz so you aren’t reliant on anything. ;)

]]> By: Garth Hjelte http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-855863 Garth Hjelte Sun, 05 Apr 2009 00:41:14 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/#comment-855863 Someone mentioned that "people own a bunch of sample libraries in Giga that are hard to bring into other environments" - this isn't true. Kontakt covers practically all of the features Giga brings to the table. There really isn't anything Giga can do that Kontakt can't do. And Kontakts import facility provides full access to Giga libraries, imports them fine. Someone mentioned that “people own a bunch of sample libraries in Giga that are hard to bring into other environments” – this isn’t true.

Kontakt covers practically all of the features Giga brings to the table. There really isn’t anything Giga can do that Kontakt can’t do. And Kontakts import facility provides full access to Giga libraries, imports them fine.

]]> By: Armando http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-855572 Armando Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:46:10 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/#comment-855572 Whoa Peter good post man! This is huge! Whoa Peter good post man! This is huge!

]]> By: Create Digital Music » Messe Roundup: New Doepfer Standalone, Little Akai, PreSonus DAW, More http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-852291 Create Digital Music » Messe Roundup: New Doepfer Standalone, Little Akai, PreSonus DAW, More Thu, 02 Apr 2009 18:17:29 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/#comment-852291 [...] Garritan Rescues Giga Sampling Technology, Talks Open Standards (to me, the biggest news of this show) [...] [...] Garritan Rescues Giga Sampling Technology, Talks Open Standards (to me, the biggest news of this show) [...]

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-852261 Peter Kirn Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:20:19 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/01/garritan-rescues-giga-sampling-technology-talks-open-standards/#comment-852261 @Kassen: Touche. The advantage of analog over binary. (Good thing reel-to-reel didn't have DRM.) @Kassen: Touche. The advantage of analog over binary. (Good thing reel-to-reel didn’t have DRM.)

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