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	<title>Comments on: Ableton Live 8 Released (For Real)</title>
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		<title>By: Mudo</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/02/ableton-live-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-974157</link>
		<dc:creator>Mudo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...

At least!

http://www.mspinky.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=921&amp;highlight=


Work is done. Start patching!

PS for Ableton and Serato: I still need a JOB.

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<p>At least!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mspinky.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=921&amp;highlight=" rel="nofollow">http://www.mspinky.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=921&amp;highlight=</a></p>
<p>Work is done. Start patching!</p>
<p>PS for Ableton and Serato: I still need a JOB.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: the good with the bad</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/02/ableton-live-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-859523</link>
		<dc:creator>the good with the bad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>got live 8 recently. many features. fun and impressive. only downside for me is that it is significantly slower than 7 on my mac. looks like others have the same problem on the forums. bummer that they spend so much time with new ideas yet forget that the program still needs to &quot;work&quot; at reasonable speeds. hopefully they will address the slugishness in an update. i had a similar problem when 5 came out and it wasn&#039;t really till the 7 release that the program seemed to catch up with speed to where it was with &quot;new features&quot;...or bad on me for being impatient ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>got live 8 recently. many features. fun and impressive. only downside for me is that it is significantly slower than 7 on my mac. looks like others have the same problem on the forums. bummer that they spend so much time with new ideas yet forget that the program still needs to &#8220;work&#8221; at reasonable speeds. hopefully they will address the slugishness in an update. i had a similar problem when 5 came out and it wasn&#8217;t really till the 7 release that the program seemed to catch up with speed to where it was with &#8220;new features&#8221;&#8230;or bad on me for being impatient ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Shufflebug</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/02/ableton-live-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-858088</link>
		<dc:creator>Shufflebug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Purchased the Upgrade to Suite8 (boxed). Waiting for delivery .......

p.s. Hello Mudo, nice to see you here ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Purchased the Upgrade to Suite8 (boxed). Waiting for delivery &#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>p.s. Hello Mudo, nice to see you here ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Basement Hum</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/02/ableton-live-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-858063</link>
		<dc:creator>Basement Hum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Actually, the *image* I believe is showing us editing the whole patch&quot;

In the patching image, because the positions of the elements are different to that of the &#039;locked&#039; version, i took this to mean that the &#039;locked&#039; one was the performance view, and the edit screenshot was the .. non-performance view (is there a proper name for that?). I certainly hope so anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Actually, the *image* I believe is showing us editing the whole patch&#8221;</p>
<p>In the patching image, because the positions of the elements are different to that of the &#8216;locked&#8217; version, i took this to mean that the &#8216;locked&#8217; one was the performance view, and the edit screenshot was the .. non-performance view (is there a proper name for that?). I certainly hope so anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: EK</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/02/ableton-live-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-858003</link>
		<dc:creator>EK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with pg-13 - As one of the unlucky ones that got 7 just before 8 was announced, I think the voucher size, combined with the price hike is one step too far. I&#039;d like to be able to afford that annual upgrade, but I can&#039;t justify it and also refuse to support a company who continually call adding a few new plugins &quot;a new version&quot;. I love Live, but I do not agree with their definition of &quot;version value&quot; - It sets a bad, bad example that others most likely will follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with pg-13 &#8211; As one of the unlucky ones that got 7 just before 8 was announced, I think the voucher size, combined with the price hike is one step too far. I&#8217;d like to be able to afford that annual upgrade, but I can&#8217;t justify it and also refuse to support a company who continually call adding a few new plugins &#8220;a new version&#8221;. I love Live, but I do not agree with their definition of &#8220;version value&#8221; &#8211; It sets a bad, bad example that others most likely will follow.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/02/ableton-live-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-857224</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 23:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the *image* I believe is showing us editing the whole patch, but on the other hand this sentence certainly implies the possibility of using other UI elements:

&quot;you also have the freedom to create new and unique interfaces using the extensive set of Max 5 user interface elements.&quot;

-- which would be very good news. Ideally, once opened, these would pop up when you select a channel, as with other plug-in interfaces. I&#039;ll try to find out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the *image* I believe is showing us editing the whole patch, but on the other hand this sentence certainly implies the possibility of using other UI elements:</p>
<p>&#8220;you also have the freedom to create new and unique interfaces using the extensive set of Max 5 user interface elements.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211; which would be very good news. Ideally, once opened, these would pop up when you select a channel, as with other plug-in interfaces. I&#8217;ll try to find out.</p>
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		<title>By: Basement Hum</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/02/ableton-live-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-856511</link>
		<dc:creator>Basement Hum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One important thing about M4L, too: my understanding is that it wonâ€™t use Max 5â€™s performance interface. That is, you can use Ableton widgets from the Live interface but canâ€™t build your own UIâ€™s as you can in Max.&quot;

http://www.ableton.com/extend

From the updated ableton site it looks as though M4L will support performance views (see the delay example) as well as the regular Max interface widgets, under the headings &#039;push the button&#039; and &#039;interface friendly&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One important thing about M4L, too: my understanding is that it wonâ€™t use Max 5â€™s performance interface. That is, you can use Ableton widgets from the Live interface but canâ€™t build your own UIâ€™s as you can in Max.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ableton.com/extend" rel="nofollow">http://www.ableton.com/extend</a></p>
<p>From the updated ableton site it looks as though M4L will support performance views (see the delay example) as well as the regular Max interface widgets, under the headings &#8216;push the button&#8217; and &#8216;interface friendly&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: pg-13</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/02/ableton-live-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-855621</link>
		<dc:creator>pg-13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 19:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at JM: I dont understand :

30 bucks off of the regular download upgrade would be 159.99 usd.  but that doesnt get u the Suite at all. 

also, i am not at all happy with the 200 dollar upgrade fee.  if they had waited and combined all the features from 7 and 8 then i can understand.
but if i am gonna pay 200 dollars a year to upgrade this software, i may consider not upgrading at all from now on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at JM: I dont understand :</p>
<p>30 bucks off of the regular download upgrade would be 159.99 usd.  but that doesnt get u the Suite at all. </p>
<p>also, i am not at all happy with the 200 dollar upgrade fee.  if they had waited and combined all the features from 7 and 8 then i can understand.<br />
but if i am gonna pay 200 dollars a year to upgrade this software, i may consider not upgrading at all from now on.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/02/ableton-live-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-854506</link>
		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@vinayk I have the same problem as you... I am waiting for my authorization code too :-( Looks like we will have to wait for monday, when they come back to their office. That&#039;s it quite stupid to launch a new version on friday... I don&#039;t know what they were thinking of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@vinayk I have the same problem as you&#8230; I am waiting for my authorization code too :-( Looks like we will have to wait for monday, when they come back to their office. That&#8217;s it quite stupid to launch a new version on friday&#8230; I don&#8217;t know what they were thinking of.</p>
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		<title>By: wi_ngo</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/02/ableton-live-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-854045</link>
		<dc:creator>wi_ngo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got to say, Live 8 is pretty amazing.  So many new things to play with... it&#039;s almost maddening.  I don&#039;t see the upgrade price as being unreasonable at all. 

Totally worth it, in every way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got to say, Live 8 is pretty amazing.  So many new things to play with&#8230; it&#8217;s almost maddening.  I don&#8217;t see the upgrade price as being unreasonable at all. </p>
<p>Totally worth it, in every way.</p>
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