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	<title>Comments on: The Generative iPhone-iPod Touch: RjDj Updates, Albums, Free Downloads</title>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great idea, botched execution. You need to really rethink the way you are deploying this app platform to consumers, it&#039;s awful and it&#039;s going to upset people and make them not want to use RJDJ. Other than that, you had me....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great idea, botched execution. You need to really rethink the way you are deploying this app platform to consumers, it&#8217;s awful and it&#8217;s going to upset people and make them not want to use RJDJ. Other than that, you had me&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: pretzel</title>
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		<dc:creator>pretzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Waffle

Shure makes a Music phone adapter, it works great and works with any headphones (especially Shure&#039;s because of cord length but will work with any). 

It&#039;s basically the apple buds without the headphone, just the mic and you could use them with any headphones</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Waffle</p>
<p>Shure makes a Music phone adapter, it works great and works with any headphones (especially Shure&#8217;s because of cord length but will work with any). </p>
<p>It&#8217;s basically the apple buds without the headphone, just the mic and you could use them with any headphones</p>
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		<title>By: KimH</title>
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		<dc:creator>KimH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info, Frank. I&#039;m on the road and haven&#039;t been able to spend much time online. I don&#039;t understand why it&#039;s &quot;hard or in fact impossible to use more than one app for scene downloading,&quot; but that makes this a little more comprehensible. 

You definitely need to communicate the situation better, if you&#039;re interested in taking care of your existing customers. It&#039;s about as clear as mud from the outside at this point.

I can also tell you that I don&#039;t have lots of app slots to spare on my iPhone, and even if I did, it&#039;s unlikely I would dedicate THREE app slots to one application. I don&#039;t think I&#039;m alone there, either. It would be good to solve this- I only have room for one RjDj...

Thanks again...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info, Frank. I&#8217;m on the road and haven&#8217;t been able to spend much time online. I don&#8217;t understand why it&#8217;s &#8220;hard or in fact impossible to use more than one app for scene downloading,&#8221; but that makes this a little more comprehensible. </p>
<p>You definitely need to communicate the situation better, if you&#8217;re interested in taking care of your existing customers. It&#8217;s about as clear as mud from the outside at this point.</p>
<p>I can also tell you that I don&#8217;t have lots of app slots to spare on my iPhone, and even if I did, it&#8217;s unlikely I would dedicate THREE app slots to one application. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m alone there, either. It would be good to solve this- I only have room for one RjDj&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey KimH,

yep, I work for RjDj - you maybe have heard some of my scenes like Gridwalker or Moogarina. 

With the new version we wanted to give everyone access to the download-enabled version of RjDj, for free, because we also want to let composers decide if they want their scenes to be free or paid for. In the end, our code base (Pd) comes from a free software background, and some of us, me included, compose on Linux etc. We like free stuff. :) 

OTOH Reality Jockey is a company. The only way to sell scenes (which is partly funding our development efforts) was by bundling them with an RjDj player in the AppStore before we had the new website. And as I wrote, there are technical hurdles that make it hard or in fact impossible to use more than one app for scene downloading, at least now.

If we would be producing and selling MP3s, everything would be fine and dandy: We could have sold them through the AppStore, collect them in albums or sell them separately, they would show up in iTunes (and only there). Nobody would have been disappointed because iTunes updates don&#039;t include new tracks for their collection. 

But as it is iTunes cannot play RjDj scenes - so we have to go a more complicated route. I agree that we probably should communicate this better than we are already trying to do. 

I guess, the main misconception we are dealing with is that people think, RjDj would be an iPhone software. RjDj is not a software - RjDj is a platform for music as software.

All the best
-- 
Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey KimH,</p>
<p>yep, I work for RjDj &#8211; you maybe have heard some of my scenes like Gridwalker or Moogarina. </p>
<p>With the new version we wanted to give everyone access to the download-enabled version of RjDj, for free, because we also want to let composers decide if they want their scenes to be free or paid for. In the end, our code base (Pd) comes from a free software background, and some of us, me included, compose on Linux etc. We like free stuff. :) </p>
<p>OTOH Reality Jockey is a company. The only way to sell scenes (which is partly funding our development efforts) was by bundling them with an RjDj player in the AppStore before we had the new website. And as I wrote, there are technical hurdles that make it hard or in fact impossible to use more than one app for scene downloading, at least now.</p>
<p>If we would be producing and selling MP3s, everything would be fine and dandy: We could have sold them through the AppStore, collect them in albums or sell them separately, they would show up in iTunes (and only there). Nobody would have been disappointed because iTunes updates don&#8217;t include new tracks for their collection. </p>
<p>But as it is iTunes cannot play RjDj scenes &#8211; so we have to go a more complicated route. I agree that we probably should communicate this better than we are already trying to do. </p>
<p>I guess, the main misconception we are dealing with is that people think, RjDj would be an iPhone software. RjDj is not a software &#8211; RjDj is a platform for music as software.</p>
<p>All the best<br />
&#8211;<br />
Frank</p>
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		<title>By: KimH</title>
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		<dc:creator>KimH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Peter- that&#039;s not how it need work, as I understand it. The existing, paid-for RjDj Album app could have been replaced with an RjDj app that included existing scenes, while allowing for DLing new ones. The existing free app could have been replaced by an app that allowed DLing new scenes.

Whatever the case may be, they should at least explain what&#039;s going on....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peter- that&#8217;s not how it need work, as I understand it. The existing, paid-for RjDj Album app could have been replaced with an RjDj app that included existing scenes, while allowing for DLing new ones. The existing free app could have been replaced by an app that allowed DLing new scenes.</p>
<p>Whatever the case may be, they should at least explain what&#8217;s going on&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@KimH / @Frank --

Some of the confusion is because of the way Apple handles uploads, correct? That is, it isn&#039;t really possible to *replace* the one app with the others?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@KimH / @Frank &#8211;</p>
<p>Some of the confusion is because of the way Apple handles uploads, correct? That is, it isn&#8217;t really possible to *replace* the one app with the others?</p>
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		<title>By: KimH</title>
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		<dc:creator>KimH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank said: &quot;An â€œAlbumâ€ is a collection of â€œScenesâ€ in our terminology. You can think of Scenes like tracks on a traditional CD or in a MP3 album ... itâ€™s pretty traditional music biz: Albums may be a collection of scenes by one artists or by several artists under a common theme (like the â€œShakeâ€ album is).

&quot;You can now also get the scenes from both albums through our website, but the albums are a bit cheaper than buying all scenes separately - especially at the moment, where both albums are free for a limited time.&quot;

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Frank, I assume you work with the RjDj group. I have to say, the whole thing is very confusing, and I would have had no chance of understanding if it weren&#039;t for these comments. I had no idea why my RjDj app suddenly swapped its icon with a different app, also called RjDj. There&#039;s probably quite few more people out there who have no idea what&#039;s going on.

RjDj is avery cool app, but I think you&#039;re diminishing its potential with these multiplying versions. You don&#039;t even explain it clearly on your web site. 

I&#039;m sure that I don&#039;t want three RjDj slots occupied on my iPhone. Two of these will go away soon. I shouldn&#039;t have to pay again for the scenes I got with the original RjDj album.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank said: &#8220;An â€œAlbumâ€ is a collection of â€œScenesâ€ in our terminology. You can think of Scenes like tracks on a traditional CD or in a MP3 album &#8230; itâ€™s pretty traditional music biz: Albums may be a collection of scenes by one artists or by several artists under a common theme (like the â€œShakeâ€ album is).</p>
<p>&#8220;You can now also get the scenes from both albums through our website, but the albums are a bit cheaper than buying all scenes separately &#8211; especially at the moment, where both albums are free for a limited time.&#8221;</p>
<p>=======</p>
<p>Frank, I assume you work with the RjDj group. I have to say, the whole thing is very confusing, and I would have had no chance of understanding if it weren&#8217;t for these comments. I had no idea why my RjDj app suddenly swapped its icon with a different app, also called RjDj. There&#8217;s probably quite few more people out there who have no idea what&#8217;s going on.</p>
<p>RjDj is avery cool app, but I think you&#8217;re diminishing its potential with these multiplying versions. You don&#8217;t even explain it clearly on your web site. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that I don&#8217;t want three RjDj slots occupied on my iPhone. Two of these will go away soon. I shouldn&#8217;t have to pay again for the scenes I got with the original RjDj album.</p>
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		<title>By: autoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>autoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Waffle the new Apple buds with mic will work, as well as the new in-ears. As for third party adapters, they&#039;re coming soon I&#039;ve heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Waffle the new Apple buds with mic will work, as well as the new in-ears. As for third party adapters, they&#8217;re coming soon I&#8217;ve heard.</p>
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		<title>By: MUSIC&#124;MEDIA&#124;DESIGN &#187; Interacting with Music on iPhones and iPod Touch</title>
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		<dc:creator>MUSIC&#124;MEDIA&#124;DESIGN &#187; Interacting with Music on iPhones and iPod Touch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we go: check this piece fromÂ Create Digital Music Â» The Generative iPhone-iPod Touch. Â Finally, it seems things are shaking off the dust of 20th Century music â€“ rediscovering that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we go: check this piece fromÂ Create Digital Music Â» The Generative iPhone-iPod Touch. Â Finally, it seems things are shaking off the dust of 20th Century music â€“ rediscovering that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Waffle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Waffle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an iPod touch 2G and I&#039;ve been meaning to try RJDJ for a while.  I haven&#039;t been able to find any microphone accessories that allow me to use my existing headphones at the same time.  Does anyone know of any?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an iPod touch 2G and I&#8217;ve been meaning to try RJDJ for a while.  I haven&#8217;t been able to find any microphone accessories that allow me to use my existing headphones at the same time.  Does anyone know of any?</p>
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