Comments on: Is Beyonce Tone Deaf? Is Leaked Board Mix Real? Is Auto-Tune That Powerful? (No) http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:13:14 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: borgnagar http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/comment-page-2/#comment-881213 borgnagar Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:43:40 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/#comment-881213 This is clearly the vocal microphone sound from beyonce lip syncing. Not to defend her or anything, but if you are doing a performance with your vocals coming from a CD, why should you bother to sing in the correct pitch? No one hears it anyway! And if you are not making a sound it looks even more fake. Vocals are really dependant on good monitoring and I assume she couldn't even hear what she was singing because why should there be monitoring if the vocals are not audible? I think your "It was messed up in Melodyne and then recorded back into the mix" theories are really far fetched and you could use some time away from the internet. Everyone lip syncs since the 80s so this shouldn't be any news. The question should be, "why don't they sing live?". It's too demanding, like this, it's easy and spot on every time. This is clearly the vocal microphone sound from beyonce lip syncing. Not to defend her or anything, but if you are doing a performance with your vocals coming from a CD, why should you bother to sing in the correct pitch? No one hears it anyway! And if you are not making a sound it looks even more fake. Vocals are really dependant on good monitoring and I assume she couldn’t even hear what she was singing because why should there be monitoring if the vocals are not audible?

I think your “It was messed up in Melodyne and then recorded back into the mix” theories are really far fetched and you could use some time away from the internet.

Everyone lip syncs since the 80s so this shouldn’t be any news.

The question should be, “why don’t they sing live?”. It’s too demanding, like this, it’s easy and spot on every time.

]]> By: uncajesse http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/comment-page-2/#comment-879936 uncajesse Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:18:12 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/#comment-879936 six fingered chyld... Auto-Tune started as a realtime "hardware" box. Here's their latest box: http://www.antarestech.com/products/avp.shtml Next time do the research 1st. ;) six fingered chyld…

Auto-Tune started as a realtime “hardware” box. Here’s their latest box:
http://www.antarestech.com/products/avp.shtml

Next time do the research 1st. ;)

]]> By: Create Digital Music » Auto-Tune The News, And Channeling Steve Reich, Anyone? http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/comment-page-1/#comment-874426 Create Digital Music » Auto-Tune The News, And Channeling Steve Reich, Anyone? Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:33:11 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/#comment-874426 [...] to decrepitude in comments. (Erm – that being the dude/dudette’s alias, not actual decrepitude in comments. That we’re [...] [...] to decrepitude in comments. (Erm – that being the dude/dudette’s alias, not actual decrepitude in comments. That we’re [...]

]]> By: decrepitude http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/comment-page-1/#comment-874371 decrepitude Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:12:55 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/#comment-874371 More Autotune madness.... in a good way this time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBb4cjjj1gI More Autotune madness…. in a good way this time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBb4cjjj1gI

]]> By: six fingered chyld http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/comment-page-1/#comment-874315 six fingered chyld Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:16:22 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/#comment-874315 man, oh man, oh man... i ain't never seen y'all so worked up about a funny/fun vid.... the underlying issue? ppl can't sing anymore...? no no no...we're just not used to people singing naturally ennymore... thanks t-pain! lil wayne, than you too!! i just simply can't wait 'til that auto tune shit technology become a realtime application... oh my gosh..now everybody is going to be able to sing!! goodbye profit from making music.. man, oh man, oh man…
i ain’t never seen y’all so worked up about a funny/fun vid….
the underlying issue? ppl can’t sing anymore…?
no no no…we’re just not used to people singing naturally ennymore…
thanks t-pain! lil wayne, than you too!!
i just simply can’t wait ’til that auto tune
shit technology become a realtime application…
oh my gosh..now everybody is going to be able to sing!!
goodbye profit from making music..

]]> By: Angstrom http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/comment-page-1/#comment-874267 Angstrom Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:06:48 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/#comment-874267 simply going to the site of the person who made the video (hellohomo.com) educates us : <blockquote> Guys these videos are fake and just for a laugh! ENJOY!!! Bring them to work and school and share with all your friends!!! Videos in Quicktime format If I Were A Boy - http://www.zshare.net/video/53973121b3eec86a/ Single Ladies - http://www.zshare.net/video/53973540d483ea22/Guys these videos are fake and just for a laugh! ENJOY!!! Bring them to work and school and share with all your friends!!! Videos in Quicktime format If I Were A Boy - http://www.zshare.net/video/53973121b3eec86a/ Single Ladies - http://www.zshare.net/video/53973540d483ea22/ </blockquote> he has some other fake vids there, also tagged as fake. simply going to the site of the person who made the video (hellohomo.com) educates us :

Guys these videos are fake and just for a laugh! ENJOY!!!
Bring them to work and school and share with all your friends!!!

Videos in Quicktime format

If I Were A Boy – http://www.zshare.net/video/53973121b3eec86a/

Single Ladies – http://www.zshare.net/video/53973540d483ea22/Guys these videos are fake and just for a laugh! ENJOY!!!
Bring them to work and school and share with all your friends!!!

Videos in Quicktime format

If I Were A Boy – http://www.zshare.net/video/53973121b3eec86a/

Single Ladies – http://www.zshare.net/video/53973540d483ea22/

he has some other fake vids there, also tagged as fake.

]]> By: decrepitude http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/comment-page-1/#comment-874259 decrepitude Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:49:03 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/#comment-874259 Doh! Just read this: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b120113_howard_stern_hoaxed_beyonceacute.html So.....nevermind. ;-) Doh! Just read this:
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b120113_howard_stern_hoaxed_beyonceacute.html

So…..nevermind. ;-)

]]> By: decrepitude http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/comment-page-1/#comment-874254 decrepitude Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:38:22 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/#comment-874254 I think the lip sync theory is the most plausible. After repeated viewings, there are several questionable moments where her mouth doesn't match the music. Since the Ashlee Simpson incident the public is more aware than ever that artists are known to fake their performances. It's nothing new. The Rolling Stones succumbed to this crap on a multitude of TV music programs. It's an age old practice and it's no surprise that in 2009 entertainers are refining the "illusion" even further. It would be really clever to pre-record <i>specific<i> performances meant for TV appearances. Also, it's nothing new that performers actually sing instead of "mouthing" for a playback performance. Billy Squier for example was famous for hating music videos and was known to sing through each take of filming a video. It's also nothing new that the frontman's microphone is live so shout-outs can be thrown in at any time. The vast majority of the Today Show's performances are lip synced anyway so why should it suddenly be different? I contend that lip-syncers have had to up their game because the general public is getting wise. I think the lip sync theory is the most plausible. After repeated viewings, there are several questionable moments where her mouth doesn’t match the music.

Since the Ashlee Simpson incident the public is more aware than ever that artists are known to fake their performances. It’s nothing new. The Rolling Stones succumbed to this crap on a multitude of TV music programs. It’s an age old practice and it’s no surprise that in 2009 entertainers are refining the “illusion” even further.

It would be really clever to pre-record specific performances meant for TV appearances. Also, it’s nothing new that performers actually sing instead of “mouthing” for a playback performance. Billy Squier for example was famous for hating music videos and was known to sing through each take of filming a video.

It’s also nothing new that the frontman’s microphone is live so shout-outs can be thrown in at any time. The vast majority of the Today Show’s performances are lip synced anyway so why should it suddenly be different?

I contend that lip-syncers have had to up their game because the general public is getting wise.

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/comment-page-1/#comment-874233 Peter Kirn Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:14:21 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/#comment-874233 @googoo: Well, it's *not* hard to do provided you really do have access to the main feed, which is why someone suggested she may have somehow made one of the live sound people really angry. ;) Then mix that back into the ambient sound of the venue. Done. Yes, it's also possible that what they did was record a quick dub -- ie, not a studio dub -- of her singing as the backing track, and what you're hearing here is actually her, totally unable to hear the monitors. That wouldn't speak very positively of her singing ability, certainly - it's tough to sing without monitors, yes, but this is Rockefeller Center, not the Orange Bowl; it's not *that* loud. @googoo: Well, it’s *not* hard to do provided you really do have access to the main feed, which is why someone suggested she may have somehow made one of the live sound people really angry. ;)

Then mix that back into the ambient sound of the venue. Done.

Yes, it’s also possible that what they did was record a quick dub — ie, not a studio dub — of her singing as the backing track, and what you’re hearing here is actually her, totally unable to hear the monitors. That wouldn’t speak very positively of her singing ability, certainly – it’s tough to sing without monitors, yes, but this is Rockefeller Center, not the Orange Bowl; it’s not *that* loud.

]]> By: combatdave http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/comment-page-1/#comment-874199 combatdave Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:09:33 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/22/is-beyonce-tone-deaf-is-leaked-board-mix-real-is-auto-tune-that-powerful/#comment-874199 This reminds me of how Radiohead really sound: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8fv6Sw5O64 This reminds me of how Radiohead really sound:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8fv6Sw5O64

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