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	<title>Comments on: Google’s Android Starting to Show Musical Potential, at Last</title>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/24/googles-android-starting-to-show-musical-potential-at-last/comment-page-1/#comment-925529</link>
		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher, 

Your work is really appreciated.  Musical was one of the first apps I got when I got my G1.

could someone please port the iPhone app  to the G1?  That would be awesome for me as a jazz musician</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher, </p>
<p>Your work is really appreciated.  Musical was one of the first apps I got when I got my G1.</p>
<p>could someone please port the iPhone app  to the G1?  That would be awesome for me as a jazz musician</p>
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		<title>By: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 &#124; shiner.clay</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/24/googles-android-starting-to-show-musical-potential-at-last/comment-page-1/#comment-897835</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuesday, May 19, 2009 &#124; shiner.clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 14:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How to make music with Google Android [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Johan Larsby</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/24/googles-android-starting-to-show-musical-potential-at-last/comment-page-1/#comment-888961</link>
		<dc:creator>Johan Larsby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 06:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,

First of, yep, they are all personal, installing eclipse is easy, but there are loads of manual steps that needs to be done to install the android SDK.

Xcode might have been easy for me since I do already have the leaopard mac, you don&#039;t need a special account, or at least it takes about 5 seconds to create it. That is excluded the ability to test on an actual phone though, that cost&#039;s money and includes a session where you have to be approved. 

The problem was to synchronize the vibration with what was shown, the vibrator runs a little in the background and out of control.

I am certain that android will be kick-ass, especially since installing cupcake, the actual phone-part has become a lot better. But it is not as finished *now* as the iPhone (they have had a lot more time though) 

I really should have filed bugreports, but I was busy whining :)

Christopher, NICE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>First of, yep, they are all personal, installing eclipse is easy, but there are loads of manual steps that needs to be done to install the android SDK.</p>
<p>Xcode might have been easy for me since I do already have the leaopard mac, you don&#8217;t need a special account, or at least it takes about 5 seconds to create it. That is excluded the ability to test on an actual phone though, that cost&#8217;s money and includes a session where you have to be approved. </p>
<p>The problem was to synchronize the vibration with what was shown, the vibrator runs a little in the background and out of control.</p>
<p>I am certain that android will be kick-ass, especially since installing cupcake, the actual phone-part has become a lot better. But it is not as finished *now* as the iPhone (they have had a lot more time though) </p>
<p>I really should have filed bugreports, but I was busy whining :)</p>
<p>Christopher, NICE!</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Souvey</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/24/googles-android-starting-to-show-musical-potential-at-last/comment-page-1/#comment-885292</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Souvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 01:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I&#039;m the author of Musical Pro, and now that Cupcake is apparently being slowly rolled out OTA, I have just released a new version with a real tuner (with live microphone input) that displays an FFT graph of the sound picked up by the microphone.  I haven&#039;t optimized everything else (latency-wise, etc) for Cupcake because not enough people have it yet, but the Tuner has been the most requested feature by far, so I&#039;ve been rushing to get it done.

Details here: http://www.souvey.com/2009/05/cupcake-tuner/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#8217;m the author of Musical Pro, and now that Cupcake is apparently being slowly rolled out OTA, I have just released a new version with a real tuner (with live microphone input) that displays an FFT graph of the sound picked up by the microphone.  I haven&#8217;t optimized everything else (latency-wise, etc) for Cupcake because not enough people have it yet, but the Tuner has been the most requested feature by far, so I&#8217;ve been rushing to get it done.</p>
<p>Details here: <a href="http://www.souvey.com/2009/05/cupcake-tuner/" rel="nofollow">http://www.souvey.com/2009/05/cupcake-tuner/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brad: Uh, yep, whoops - no Java on the iPhone. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brad: Uh, yep, whoops &#8211; no Java on the iPhone. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/24/googles-android-starting-to-show-musical-potential-at-last/comment-page-1/#comment-876576</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea, Johan - and I do know that this is your own personal experience. I am confused by some things, though, in your description:

Documentation and SDK installation on the Android - harder? Really? Processing is very easy to install; it&#039;s designed to be that way (although I also use it in Eclipse.) But it seems that Eclipse was only hard to install because you already had Xcode. Getting Xcode requires an Intel Mac running Leopard, *plus* a special developer account. Sorry, but I think Eclipse wins here hands down, and I&#039;ve never had trouble with the installation.

The GUI builder in the Android SDK isn&#039;t as nice as the one Apple gives you, I agree.

It sounds like there are some Mac quality issues with the Android SDK. I&#039;m not sure what the issue is with the emulator, honestly, because I haven&#039;t seen those issues, but I know how frustrating they can be. Rather than punch someone, file a bug report! Google&#039;s making some serious headway on improving the SDK, APIs, and documentation -- and note that they&#039;re doing it a lot faster than Apple did after the iPhone launch. With any product, they need detailed, accurate bug reports in order to fix problems, though.

I&#039;m fairly certain you can synchronize visual feedback with a thread, as is possible in Swing, etc. I&#039;m still becoming familiar with that myself, however, so I&#039;ll have to get back to you -- the Android APIs are a whole new world. 

Anyway, it&#039;s a good idea to publish these things and get feedback. I know the jury is still out on some of the Android things -- it&#039;s *not* actually standard Java development as we know it, and there are a lot of specifics to these devices, so I&#039;m still wrapping my head around it myself. I do think that in the long run you may find yourself happier with Eclipse -- and if not, by the way, someone has ported the SDK to NetBeans, which feels a lot peppier on the Mac to me. 

But yes, keep the advice coming. Just make sure that you&#039;re filing bug reports for things that really do seem to be quality issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea, Johan &#8211; and I do know that this is your own personal experience. I am confused by some things, though, in your description:</p>
<p>Documentation and SDK installation on the Android &#8211; harder? Really? Processing is very easy to install; it&#8217;s designed to be that way (although I also use it in Eclipse.) But it seems that Eclipse was only hard to install because you already had Xcode. Getting Xcode requires an Intel Mac running Leopard, *plus* a special developer account. Sorry, but I think Eclipse wins here hands down, and I&#8217;ve never had trouble with the installation.</p>
<p>The GUI builder in the Android SDK isn&#8217;t as nice as the one Apple gives you, I agree.</p>
<p>It sounds like there are some Mac quality issues with the Android SDK. I&#8217;m not sure what the issue is with the emulator, honestly, because I haven&#8217;t seen those issues, but I know how frustrating they can be. Rather than punch someone, file a bug report! Google&#8217;s making some serious headway on improving the SDK, APIs, and documentation &#8212; and note that they&#8217;re doing it a lot faster than Apple did after the iPhone launch. With any product, they need detailed, accurate bug reports in order to fix problems, though.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m fairly certain you can synchronize visual feedback with a thread, as is possible in Swing, etc. I&#8217;m still becoming familiar with that myself, however, so I&#8217;ll have to get back to you &#8212; the Android APIs are a whole new world. </p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s a good idea to publish these things and get feedback. I know the jury is still out on some of the Android things &#8212; it&#8217;s *not* actually standard Java development as we know it, and there are a lot of specifics to these devices, so I&#8217;m still wrapping my head around it myself. I do think that in the long run you may find yourself happier with Eclipse &#8212; and if not, by the way, someone has ported the SDK to NetBeans, which feels a lot peppier on the Mac to me. </p>
<p>But yes, keep the advice coming. Just make sure that you&#8217;re filing bug reports for things that really do seem to be quality issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz McLean Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz McLean Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 10:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooh...*runs to Market to snag</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh&#8230;*runs to Market to snag</p>
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		<title>By: Johan Larsby</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/24/googles-android-starting-to-show-musical-potential-at-last/comment-page-1/#comment-876502</link>
		<dc:creator>Johan Larsby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made a litte blog documenting myself writing a vibronome (metronome that vibrates instead of clicks) for j2me, iPhone and Android, guess witch enviroment was the worst?

The android app is published though, the j2me and iPhone is not far away, and it is free.

www.shuriken.se/masterbeater2000 if you are interested in my escapade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made a litte blog documenting myself writing a vibronome (metronome that vibrates instead of clicks) for j2me, iPhone and Android, guess witch enviroment was the worst?</p>
<p>The android app is published though, the j2me and iPhone is not far away, and it is free.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shuriken.se/masterbeater2000" rel="nofollow">http://www.shuriken.se/masterbeater2000</a> if you are interested in my escapade.</p>
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		<title>By: thesimplicity</title>
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		<dc:creator>thesimplicity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dream is to see Android on multiple devices and have the same apps run seamlessly across all platforms.  I&#039;d love to take a project from my desktop and throw it on my phone or netbook so I can work on it during my commute.  Or better yet:  cloud based projects.  

I use &lt;a href=&quot;http://evernote.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Evernote&lt;/A&gt; for keeping track of my ideas.  I love the way it works on multiple platforms (I have it on my desktop PC at home, my Mac Pro at work, my tablet PC, my iPod Touch, and I use the web interface on my G1) and syncs seamlessly.  Given that Android is an OS that can potentially run on all those devices, is it possible that the same seamless experience can happen for audio?  I understand that processing power and memory makes audio apps function much differently than simple note taking software, but I&#039;m thinking of something like the Korg DS-10... imagine working on a little piece in a light-weight sequencer and being able to pull it down wherever you are.  Sort of like what Ableton&#039;s doing with the share function in Live 8 (except I can&#039;t run Live on my phone).  Could be killer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dream is to see Android on multiple devices and have the same apps run seamlessly across all platforms.  I&#8217;d love to take a project from my desktop and throw it on my phone or netbook so I can work on it during my commute.  Or better yet:  cloud based projects.  </p>
<p>I use <a href="http://evernote.com/" rel="nofollow">Evernote</a> for keeping track of my ideas.  I love the way it works on multiple platforms (I have it on my desktop PC at home, my Mac Pro at work, my tablet PC, my iPod Touch, and I use the web interface on my G1) and syncs seamlessly.  Given that Android is an OS that can potentially run on all those devices, is it possible that the same seamless experience can happen for audio?  I understand that processing power and memory makes audio apps function much differently than simple note taking software, but I&#8217;m thinking of something like the Korg DS-10&#8230; imagine working on a little piece in a light-weight sequencer and being able to pull it down wherever you are.  Sort of like what Ableton&#8217;s doing with the share function in Live 8 (except I can&#8217;t run Live on my phone).  Could be killer.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Fuller</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/24/googles-android-starting-to-show-musical-potential-at-last/comment-page-1/#comment-875807</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Fuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter said:
&quot;The Java-based developer tools initially released for the iPhone are great for building various kinds of mobile apps, but they fall short for anything creative or audio-related&quot;

Do you mean &quot;Android SDK&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter said:<br />
&#8220;The Java-based developer tools initially released for the iPhone are great for building various kinds of mobile apps, but they fall short for anything creative or audio-related&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you mean &#8220;Android SDK&#8221;?</p>
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