Comments on: MonoTouchLive, the Lemur, Imitation, and Hopes for an Older, Wiser CDM http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:56:48 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Pablo Martin http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/comment-page-1/#comment-942399 Pablo Martin Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:30:03 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/#comment-942399 John Silverman if you want layour for LOGIC insie MTL, just contactme. John Silverman if you want layour for LOGIC insie MTL, just contactme.

]]> By: John Silverman http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/comment-page-1/#comment-935804 John Silverman Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:11:04 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/#comment-935804 How many of y'all use samples in your work? Aren't we in the postmodern age of mashups, sampling, appropriation, etc...? Yes, we are all influenced and inspired by others. Personally, when I realize I've subconsciously borrowed a bit too much from someone else (the test being I realize it and it makes me uncomfortable) I abandon or change it radically. It's clear that Pablo really, really agonized over this whole issue. He seems like an honest guy. I'm working on the same concept (2nd VGA touchscreen) monitor as a controller for Logic, or <i>any other application</i>... no other software needed, just dial the screen resolution on the touchscreen to a sufficient size so touching works. How many of y’all use samples in your work? Aren’t we in the postmodern age of mashups, sampling, appropriation, etc…? Yes, we are all influenced and inspired by others. Personally, when I realize I’ve subconsciously borrowed a bit too much from someone else (the test being I realize it and it makes me uncomfortable) I abandon or change it radically. It’s clear that Pablo really, really agonized over this whole issue. He seems like an honest guy.

I’m working on the same concept (2nd VGA touchscreen) monitor as a controller for Logic, or any other application… no other software needed, just dial the screen resolution on the touchscreen to a sufficient size so touching works.

]]> By: PABLO MARTIN http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/comment-page-1/#comment-901434 PABLO MARTIN Sat, 23 May 2009 10:25:29 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/#comment-901434 woooow! Volker Schumacher from Bitwig! I really love see or know more about the project of this guys...... Claes Johanson, Pablo Sara, Nicholas Allen and Volker Schumacher : = ) all the best fo you guys! woooow! Volker Schumacher from Bitwig!
I really love see or know more about the project of this guys…… Claes Johanson, Pablo Sara, Nicholas Allen and Volker Schumacher : = )
all the best fo you guys!

]]> By: Joan Artigas http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/comment-page-1/#comment-896563 Joan Artigas Sun, 17 May 2009 03:23:58 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/#comment-896563 Well, I think, honestly, we are living in a world where all projects has a little bit of others projects. In music, technology, arts, tv or any other field. It's impossible to discover a new continent in the Earth planet because we know all (it seems!). So, new ideas allways are inspired for others and this don't mean this ideas are simply copied. When I started my project AdLibitouch.com obviously I was inspired for Jazzmutant, Monotouchlive, Reactable, etc. But I has another needs because I'm working mixing live music shows and I need an application oriented to this field and, if possible, with remote control. Am I copying? I think no. I don't use the source code of any comercial company. I'm, only, developing a project for my needs. Is Microsoft copyng Apple with multitouch apps? Maybe, I don't know. But I'm sure they are multiple ways to arrive the same place. Best wishes. Well, I think, honestly, we are living in a world where all projects has a little bit of others projects. In music, technology, arts, tv or any other field.

It’s impossible to discover a new continent in the Earth planet because we know all (it seems!). So, new ideas allways are inspired for others and this don’t mean this ideas are simply copied.

When I started my project AdLibitouch.com obviously I was inspired for Jazzmutant, Monotouchlive, Reactable, etc. But I has another needs because I’m working mixing live music shows and I need an application oriented to this field and, if possible, with remote control. Am I copying? I think no. I don’t use the source code of any comercial company. I’m, only, developing a project for my needs.

Is Microsoft copyng Apple with multitouch apps? Maybe, I don’t know. But I’m sure they are multiple ways to arrive the same place.

Best wishes.

]]> By: Volker Schumacher http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/comment-page-1/#comment-895302 Volker Schumacher Thu, 14 May 2009 09:36:54 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/#comment-895302 oh yes, indeed the logo has similarities with our logo, but we didn't copy it either, i promise, and i think they are still different enough - it's a wig in our case and more abstract in pablo's case. it's funny, when i first read about monotouchlive one week ago i didn't even realize it. and there is another similarity, the name of the guy who invented our logo is also pablo. however ... congratulations and all the best to pablo and his monotouchlive project from bitwig! oh yes, indeed the logo has similarities with our logo, but we didn’t copy it either, i promise, and i think they are still different enough – it’s a wig in our case and more abstract in pablo’s case. it’s funny, when i first read about monotouchlive one week ago i didn’t even realize it. and there is another similarity, the name of the guy who invented our logo is also pablo. however … congratulations and all the best to pablo and his monotouchlive project from bitwig!

]]> By: PABLO MARTIN http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/comment-page-1/#comment-891180 PABLO MARTIN Sun, 10 May 2009 07:11:16 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/#comment-891180 Sandor, before comment that you really should investigate a little more. My logo is created JAN 20 of year 2007, and anyone who follow my project can confirm that logo is showed before BITWIG.COM web page exist. Think a bit before writing barbarities. BITWIG.COM is a new company and no exist on JAN 20 2007 If you make a simple WHOIS for the domain BITWIG.COM you can see the doamin is created 2009-02-23 how i can copy the logo in the year 2007 when the webpage of BITWIG.COM company is available after some moment of this date: 2009-02-23 how? Domain.......: BITWIG.COM (DOM-267159) Status.......: OK Amended......: 2009-02-23 10:48:29 Created......: 2009-02-23 10:48:28 Expires......: 2010-02-23 10:48:28 Registrar....: REGISTRAR-3 Again, think a bit before writing barbarities. Sandor, before comment that you really should investigate a little more.
My logo is created JAN 20 of year 2007, and anyone who follow my project can confirm that logo is showed before BITWIG.COM web page exist.

Think a bit before writing barbarities.
BITWIG.COM is a new company and no exist on JAN 20 2007

If you make a simple WHOIS for the domain BITWIG.COM you can see the doamin is created 2009-02-23
how i can copy the logo in the year 2007 when the webpage of BITWIG.COM company is available after some moment of this date:

2009-02-23

how?

Domain…….: BITWIG.COM (DOM-267159)
Status…….: OK
Amended……: 2009-02-23 10:48:29
Created……: 2009-02-23 10:48:28
Expires……: 2010-02-23 10:48:28
Registrar….: REGISTRAR-3

Again, think a bit before writing barbarities.

]]> By: Sandor http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/comment-page-1/#comment-890886 Sandor Sat, 09 May 2009 21:49:40 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/#comment-890886 It seems that this guy didn't just copy Lemur's GUI, his logo looks like Bitwig, a new software project run by 4 ex-abletons: www.bitwig.com It seems that this guy didn’t just copy Lemur’s GUI, his logo looks like Bitwig, a new software project run by 4 ex-abletons: http://www.bitwig.com

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/comment-page-1/#comment-887889 Peter Kirn Tue, 05 May 2009 08:22:21 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/#comment-887889 @tonvibration: A couple of the iPhone/iPod touch apps absolutely allow you to edit the templates. Oscemote uses HTML / JavaScript, which arguably makes creating your own templates easier than on the Lemur. http://lux.vu/iphone/oscemote/webpanels/ mrmr natively uses an XML format - currently requires a Mac editor, but that may not remain the case. It seems the ideal would be hardware that lets you edit templates *on the device*. Even the Lemur doesn't currently do that. Very possible, though. Your projects look very cool, will talk more soon! @tonvibration: A couple of the iPhone/iPod touch apps absolutely allow you to edit the templates.

Oscemote uses HTML / JavaScript, which arguably makes creating your own templates easier than on the Lemur.
http://lux.vu/iphone/oscemote/webpanels/

mrmr natively uses an XML format – currently requires a Mac editor, but that may not remain the case.

It seems the ideal would be hardware that lets you edit templates *on the device*. Even the Lemur doesn’t currently do that. Very possible, though.

Your projects look very cool, will talk more soon!

]]> By: tonvibration http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/comment-page-1/#comment-887709 tonvibration Tue, 05 May 2009 05:30:09 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/#comment-887709 Hey, I am a Lemur user and I must say "yeah, it looks like a ripoff of the lemur"...but thats not fair. Concrats to you Pablo - go on! And if the switches or fader look equal it is just due to a good ergonomic function - you can´t reinvent the fader! I´m wondering a little what kind of "other" controls Peter want? Maybe just other surfaces/ colors? Because all we do is done by these 2-dimensional objects: Why should I control a volume with something other than a fader? Or with what kind of control a switch should be realised? Well, monotouchlive is no lemur because you can not rebuild your interface, you have to use it the way it was designed. And it is the same with the I-phone apps (as i said in another thread). So, did anyone know a "free to design" software for touchscreens (beneath Usine)? Thats what I´m mostly disapointed in: If touchscreen for everyone is coming we need those programs!!! Because just using not editable templates I see no advantage in touchscreens and I would always prefer hardware with haptic feedback. The new dimension is not "touch" it is editable controlsurfaces. I build some modules on the Lemur you can watch in my youtube-videos: http://de.youtube.com/user/tonvibration And on 17th of may me and some friends give a concert and also some technical explanation about soft- and hardware we use. So if you live near to Aachen/Germany just come in: http://www.tonvibration.de/electricsheep Hey, I am a Lemur user and I must say “yeah, it looks like a ripoff of the lemur”…but thats not fair. Concrats to you Pablo – go on! And if the switches or fader look equal it is just due to a good ergonomic function – you can´t reinvent the fader! I´m wondering a little what kind of “other” controls Peter want? Maybe just other surfaces/ colors? Because all we do is done by these 2-dimensional objects: Why should I control a volume with something other than a fader? Or with what kind of control a switch should be realised?
Well, monotouchlive is no lemur because you can not rebuild your interface, you have to use it the way it was designed. And it is the same with the I-phone apps (as i said in another thread). So, did anyone know a “free to design” software for touchscreens (beneath Usine)? Thats what I´m mostly disapointed in: If touchscreen for everyone is coming we need those programs!!! Because just using not editable templates I see no advantage in touchscreens and I would always prefer hardware with haptic feedback. The new dimension is not “touch” it is editable controlsurfaces.
I build some modules on the Lemur you can watch in my youtube-videos: http://de.youtube.com/user/tonvibration
And on 17th of may me and some friends give a concert and also some technical explanation about soft- and hardware we use. So if you live near to Aachen/Germany just come in:
http://www.tonvibration.de/electricsheep

]]> By: PABLO MARTIN http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/comment-page-1/#comment-886386 PABLO MARTIN Mon, 04 May 2009 02:22:03 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/monotouchlive-the-lemur-imitation-and-hopes-for-an-older-wiser-cdm/#comment-886386 Hello Joan Artigas! Nice to have news from you : ) Go ahead with your project. Best regards. Hello Joan Artigas!
Nice to have news from you : )
Go ahead with your project.
Best regards.

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