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	<title>Comments on: Brute Force Technology: Zen Piano for iPhone &#8220;Senses&#8221; Tap Pressure, But Not By Magic</title>
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		<title>By: TekDes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; il tocco non è tutto</title>
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		<dc:creator>TekDes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; il tocco non è tutto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 03:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] applicazioni. Un&#8217;applicazione per Iphone chiamata Zen Piano, mostrata in questo articolo su Create Digital Music, mostra come sia possibile rilevare la forza della pressione senza nessuna modifica hardware nei [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] applicazioni. Un&#8217;applicazione per Iphone chiamata Zen Piano, mostrata in questo articolo su Create Digital Music, mostra come sia possibile rilevare la forza della pressione senza nessuna modifica hardware nei [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mudo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mudo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 05:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...
Don&#039;t worry Darren about me!!!
I&#039;m just kidding!

It would be great see some of your ideas materialized!

I&#039;m researching and creating new user interfaces (hardware) prototypes arduino/pd based.

;)

...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;<br />
Don&#8217;t worry Darren about me!!!<br />
I&#8217;m just kidding!</p>
<p>It would be great see some of your ideas materialized!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m researching and creating new user interfaces (hardware) prototypes arduino/pd based.</p>
<p>;)</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zen Piano para iPhone / iPod Touch: Boas perspectivas para os instrumentos musicais nas telas multitouch!! &#124; rodrigostoledo.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zen Piano para iPhone / iPod Touch: Boas perspectivas para os instrumentos musicais nas telas multitouch!! &#124; rodrigostoledo.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 14:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Darren Landrum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren Landrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 12:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mudo: So you did. Sorry, I must have missed it.

My biggest interest lately has been in creative uses of any piezoelectric materials. I&#039;ve even given some thought to focusing my physics education on the field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mudo: So you did. Sorry, I must have missed it.</p>
<p>My biggest interest lately has been in creative uses of any piezoelectric materials. I&#8217;ve even given some thought to focusing my physics education on the field.</p>
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		<title>By: Mudo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mudo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 11:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...
Darren!

I said it before!

;)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;<br />
Darren!</p>
<p>I said it before!</p>
<p>;)</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: robman84</title>
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		<dc:creator>robman84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 13:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erm, already exists in an app on the appstore. I can&#039;t remember if it was a gong or a tambourine, but I ended up deleting it because it wasn&#039;t reliable enough. Wait, here it is:

http://appshopper.com/entertainment/gong-touch-free

I&#039;m sure it will get updated from time to time. Would be interesting to see these other guys patent something that already exists...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erm, already exists in an app on the appstore. I can&#8217;t remember if it was a gong or a tambourine, but I ended up deleting it because it wasn&#8217;t reliable enough. Wait, here it is:</p>
<p><a href="http://appshopper.com/entertainment/gong-touch-free" rel="nofollow">http://appshopper.com/entertainment/gong-touch-free</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it will get updated from time to time. Would be interesting to see these other guys patent something that already exists&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Freddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 11:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let&#039;s hope they don&#039;t pull the patent thing on this one, noise.io synth devs removed mapping pitch scales to accelerometer just because the short sighted dev of (crappy app imho)Cosmovox, quoting noise.io dev:&quot;filed complaints to Apple that Noise.io violates his patent rights&quot;

wtf? accelerometer is available on every iphone, and for that matter accesible to any app via the SDK to do whatever you see fit with it as long as you stick to the public APIs, if anyone can (wrongfully) pull something like this, should be Apple, not a 3rd party developer!

please Apple, don&#039;t let this kind of stuff happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let&#8217;s hope they don&#8217;t pull the patent thing on this one, noise.io synth devs removed mapping pitch scales to accelerometer just because the short sighted dev of (crappy app imho)Cosmovox, quoting noise.io dev:&#8221;filed complaints to Apple that Noise.io violates his patent rights&#8221;</p>
<p>wtf? accelerometer is available on every iphone, and for that matter accesible to any app via the SDK to do whatever you see fit with it as long as you stick to the public APIs, if anyone can (wrongfully) pull something like this, should be Apple, not a 3rd party developer!</p>
<p>please Apple, don&#8217;t let this kind of stuff happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Landrum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren Landrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 08:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just thought of another issue with this approach.

There is only one accelerometer (yes, in three axes, but that&#039;s N/A to this discussion). While the display is multitouch, meaning you can play polyphonically on it, the internal accelerometer will only ever measure one velocity setting, which will be the total for all fingers smacking the display.

As accelerometers are piezoelectric devices, I&#039;m starting to imagine my own take on a velocity sensitive &quot;touch&quot; device using piezo film and maybe an Arduino. Man, too many project ideas, too little money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just thought of another issue with this approach.</p>
<p>There is only one accelerometer (yes, in three axes, but that&#8217;s N/A to this discussion). While the display is multitouch, meaning you can play polyphonically on it, the internal accelerometer will only ever measure one velocity setting, which will be the total for all fingers smacking the display.</p>
<p>As accelerometers are piezoelectric devices, I&#8217;m starting to imagine my own take on a velocity sensitive &#8220;touch&#8221; device using piezo film and maybe an Arduino. Man, too many project ideas, too little money.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 06:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Russ: Yeah, that makes much more sense, because then you can get predictable results.

Following on @JPV&#039;s line of thinking... I think as controllers go, taking advantage of the positioning sensors on mobile devices winds up being more interesting, because then the fact that it&#039;s a handheld device starts to make sense (as with the Wii remote).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Russ: Yeah, that makes much more sense, because then you can get predictable results.</p>
<p>Following on @JPV&#8217;s line of thinking&#8230; I think as controllers go, taking advantage of the positioning sensors on mobile devices winds up being more interesting, because then the fact that it&#8217;s a handheld device starts to make sense (as with the Wii remote).</p>
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		<title>By: JPV</title>
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		<dc:creator>JPV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 02:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a hard enough time composing music on a 15 inch screen. I can&#039;t even to begin to comprehend the preoccupation with music apps on such a minute screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a hard enough time composing music on a 15 inch screen. I can&#8217;t even to begin to comprehend the preoccupation with music apps on such a minute screen.</p>
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