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	<title>Comments on: Democratizing Creative Tech: Juli&#224; Carboneras, OFFF (English + Espanol)</title>
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		<title>By: Links Mai&#8217;09 &#171; alexis macht holtadipolta</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/14/democratizing-creative-tech-juli-carboneras-offf-english-espanol/comment-page-1/#comment-902468</link>
		<dc:creator>Links Mai&#8217;09 &#171; alexis macht holtadipolta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 10:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Demokratisierung von Technologie:  DIY als politische Ausdrucksweise. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Demokratisierung von Technologie:  DIY als politische Ausdrucksweise. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Palau</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/14/democratizing-creative-tech-juli-carboneras-offf-english-espanol/comment-page-1/#comment-897463</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Palau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 06:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Peter, here you are:

http://nbsp.es/videos/Peter%20Kirn%20offf2009%20Oeiras.mp4

I wish you like it!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Peter, here you are:</p>
<p><a href="http://nbsp.es/videos/Peter%20Kirn%20offf2009%20Oeiras.mp4" rel="nofollow">http://nbsp.es/videos/Peter%20Kirn%20offf2009%20Oeiras.mp4</a></p>
<p>I wish you like it!!</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Palau</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/14/democratizing-creative-tech-juli-carboneras-offf-english-espanol/comment-page-1/#comment-896939</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Palau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 10:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here you are:

http://www.nbsp.es/videos/Gijs%20Gieskes%20offf2009%20Oeiras.mp4

Tomorrow yours Peter, I&#039;m uploading right now the 700MB video.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here you are:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nbsp.es/videos/Gijs%20Gieskes%20offf2009%20Oeiras.mp4" rel="nofollow">http://www.nbsp.es/videos/Gijs%20Gieskes%20offf2009%20Oeiras.mp4</a></p>
<p>Tomorrow yours Peter, I&#8217;m uploading right now the 700MB video.</p>
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		<title>By: Mudo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mudo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 11:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...

Customization is in Bboys and turntablist dj too...   and in human being itself.

The important is the &quot;spirit&quot; of DIY itself (and custom tools)

;)


...</description>
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<p>Customization is in Bboys and turntablist dj too&#8230;   and in human being itself.</p>
<p>The important is the &#8220;spirit&#8221; of DIY itself (and custom tools)</p>
<p>;)</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Palau</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/14/democratizing-creative-tech-juli-carboneras-offf-english-espanol/comment-page-1/#comment-896275</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Palau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 10:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uploading Gijs HD video 500MB - 22minutes :) (40 minutes left)
Coding peter video 35 minutes ... A few hours left
Later I will give u the URL

Nice to met you Peter!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uploading Gijs HD video 500MB &#8211; 22minutes :) (40 minutes left)<br />
Coding peter video 35 minutes &#8230; A few hours left<br />
Later I will give u the URL</p>
<p>Nice to met you Peter!!</p>
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		<title>By: Create Digital Music » Democratizing Creative Tech: Julià &#8230; &#124; English Software</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/14/democratizing-creative-tech-juli-carboneras-offf-english-espanol/comment-page-1/#comment-895792</link>
		<dc:creator>Create Digital Music » Democratizing Creative Tech: Julià &#8230; &#124; English Software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] See a strange post here: Create Digital Music » Democratizing Creative Tech: Julià &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] See a strange post here: Create Digital Music » Democratizing Creative Tech: Julià &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Julià Carboneras</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/14/democratizing-creative-tech-juli-carboneras-offf-english-espanol/comment-page-1/#comment-895545</link>
		<dc:creator>Julià Carboneras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 01:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not saying that people who practice DIY is punk, I just say that part of its origin comes from punk attitudes, like customizing clothes....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not saying that people who practice DIY is punk, I just say that part of its origin comes from punk attitudes, like customizing clothes&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mudo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mudo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 01:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...
I&#039;m in the same way Peter.

&quot;Potser serà perque soc català? ;)&quot;
(Maybe is because I&#039;m catalonian?)

I believe in &quot;these&quot; new concept of &quot;Electronic Luthier&quot; doing myself and building for 3rds... sometimes they could be Corps but there are conditions.

I&#039;m not punk but I&#039;m spiritual human and I work with passion for human being.

My projects will be: 

commercial (for those who doesn&#039;t want to learn/understand, just play) in a closed ready to play form (but full hackeable).

Open source/ DIY (for those who wants to learn and &quot;think&quot; they could do itselfs) in a &quot;kit&quot; form

Collaborative (I will continue working with blogs like yours)

Conciousness (Everybody must be responsable of theirselves and their choices)


Future is custom, everybody choose their one.

...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;m in the same way Peter.</p>
<p>&#8220;Potser serà perque soc català? ;)&#8221;<br />
(Maybe is because I&#8217;m catalonian?)</p>
<p>I believe in &#8220;these&#8221; new concept of &#8220;Electronic Luthier&#8221; doing myself and building for 3rds&#8230; sometimes they could be Corps but there are conditions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not punk but I&#8217;m spiritual human and I work with passion for human being.</p>
<p>My projects will be: </p>
<p>commercial (for those who doesn&#8217;t want to learn/understand, just play) in a closed ready to play form (but full hackeable).</p>
<p>Open source/ DIY (for those who wants to learn and &#8220;think&#8221; they could do itselfs) in a &#8220;kit&#8221; form</p>
<p>Collaborative (I will continue working with blogs like yours)</p>
<p>Conciousness (Everybody must be responsable of theirselves and their choices)</p>
<p>Future is custom, everybody choose their one.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ronnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>ronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 00:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen some of Gijs&#039; instruments for sale on a local marketplace website. Was very tempted to pick up one of his wonderful creations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen some of Gijs&#8217; instruments for sale on a local marketplace website. Was very tempted to pick up one of his wonderful creations.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That ad is coming up for me, too. Just blocked it. ;)

I&#039;m not anti-sponsor. But I felt under no pressure to mention how I used my Wacom tablet with CS4. That&#039;s not to say that doesn&#039;t happen at conferences -- sometimes it does. I didn&#039;t get that feeling at OFFF. On the contrary, Processing and openFrameworks (open-source, community-based projects) got more shout-outs onstage than any of the sponsors.

(Oh, Joshua Davis DID talk a lot about Red Bull, but he was indeed drinking a lot of them.)

I&#039;m not personally anti-capitalism or punk myself, but I appreciate that viewpoint. My feeling is that you don&#039;t have to be &quot;anti-business.&quot; Why do we ship, say, musical instruments from across the other side of the world, at a huge environmental cost? Why don&#039;t we have sustainable, small-scale manufacturing closer at home? We&#039;re so entrenched in these businesses in one way of doing things that it takes DIYers doing something else -- and, indeed, building *new businesses* so they can sustain their projects -- to get us onto a new model.

Part of the reason the US and Europe are in the huge economic hole we&#039;re in is that our governments decimated our manufacturing base and stopped making things. You can get the most ideological capitalist together with the most purist socialist, and they&#039;ll both agree people need to have jobs making stuff. I think the DIY movement, because it can be outrageous and experimental, has a lot of ideas that suggest how that can happen.

So I don&#039;t see a conflict here at all.

This was ultimately not what we talked about on the panel -- we were focused, more simply, on how you can be creative with building your own tools. But I think those deeper questions are worth asking, and as we all look for ways to feed ourselves and our families, pay for our (cough, in the US) health insurance, and dig out of this economic crisis, I think we&#039;re all more aware of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That ad is coming up for me, too. Just blocked it. ;)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not anti-sponsor. But I felt under no pressure to mention how I used my Wacom tablet with CS4. That&#8217;s not to say that doesn&#8217;t happen at conferences &#8212; sometimes it does. I didn&#8217;t get that feeling at OFFF. On the contrary, Processing and openFrameworks (open-source, community-based projects) got more shout-outs onstage than any of the sponsors.</p>
<p>(Oh, Joshua Davis DID talk a lot about Red Bull, but he was indeed drinking a lot of them.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not personally anti-capitalism or punk myself, but I appreciate that viewpoint. My feeling is that you don&#8217;t have to be &#8220;anti-business.&#8221; Why do we ship, say, musical instruments from across the other side of the world, at a huge environmental cost? Why don&#8217;t we have sustainable, small-scale manufacturing closer at home? We&#8217;re so entrenched in these businesses in one way of doing things that it takes DIYers doing something else &#8212; and, indeed, building *new businesses* so they can sustain their projects &#8212; to get us onto a new model.</p>
<p>Part of the reason the US and Europe are in the huge economic hole we&#8217;re in is that our governments decimated our manufacturing base and stopped making things. You can get the most ideological capitalist together with the most purist socialist, and they&#8217;ll both agree people need to have jobs making stuff. I think the DIY movement, because it can be outrageous and experimental, has a lot of ideas that suggest how that can happen.</p>
<p>So I don&#8217;t see a conflict here at all.</p>
<p>This was ultimately not what we talked about on the panel &#8212; we were focused, more simply, on how you can be creative with building your own tools. But I think those deeper questions are worth asking, and as we all look for ways to feed ourselves and our families, pay for our (cough, in the US) health insurance, and dig out of this economic crisis, I think we&#8217;re all more aware of them.</p>
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