usbkey Propellerhead’s upcoming Record has attracted a lot of attention and discussion, but some of the forum chatter has centered on the new authorization scheme. Record will in fact use a hardware dongle as a key. Propellerhead obviously anticipated a response, as on their own site, they concede: “Wait – a USB device? You mean… a dongle? Are you insane?” But in the current description, and the teasers over the weekend, they also promised a “different” way of doing authorization – a promise that in the short term may have made people even more confused.

At the risk of causing a flame war, let’s at least look at exactly how the authorization works. Authorization is, of course, always annoying to paid users on some level, and I expect some of you will still be unhappy with the USB key approach. Looking at it on balance, there are some advantages in certain situations, when compared to software-only authorization, and disadvantages in others.

This is a preview only of a non-shipping product, based on information Propellerhead has shared and my own experience. It’s also not intended to be an opinion piece; I just want to look at the big picture in the hopes that the online discussions can be better-informed.

First, to clear up a misconception: the authorization does not slow down boot time. In fact, Record is one of the fastest-booting audio apps I’ve seen. (Note: any comment about performance is just speculative, as we don’t have a final build yet. But this is partly objective; remember, by not supporting plug-ins, Record doesn’t have to slog through your plug-in folder, something you can leave to other tools.)

The first time you load Record, you’ll see something like this if your USB key isn’t plugged in:

authorization_options

With the USB key, you won’t actually see that dialog again. In fact, if Record doesn’t see the key, it will give you an opportunity to insert it:

ignitionkey

What’s demo mode? If you can’t authorize Record, it will switch to “demo” mode. (One thing it won’t do is arbitrarily quit or something stupid like that, which I have seen some hardware-based systems do.) In demo mode, you can do everything except open files. This also means the demo you’ll try at dealers or on your own machine will be more fully-featured.

What if something happens to your key during a set? If you’re onstage and someone breaks your key, for instance, you can continue to use Record you can’t just open any new files.

What if you don’t have your key? The backup method is Internet authorization. An Internet authorization is just as full-featured as using the USB key. So, for instance, if you’re at home or in a studio and don’t want to fill up a USB port with the key, you can simply use Internet authorization.

I asked Propellerhead when the Internet connection has to be active, and they reported that there are two times:

1. When you startup the software

2. Each time you open a file

This is just based on my own tests and conversations; see the full discussion at the Props site:

Propellerhead Ignition Key

So, for those of you keeping score at home, here’s what I currently understand as the tradeoffs of this approach?

Why It’s Good News

Before you start ranting in comments, some readers have already noted an advantage of this system: it makes it very possible to use Record on lots of computers. Got a couple of desktop machines, a computer at the studio, a netbook, your significant other’s machine, a laptop, and then the computer at your band-mate’s house? With most software authorization schemes – challenge and response and so on – you’re out of luck, because you have two or three authorizations to play with. This also means if a drive fails or a software authorization is lost, you have to use a (limited) supply of existing authorizations or find a serial number. With the key, you can move between all those locations, then get to someone who has a new machine and download the file there, plug in, and go. (Yes, I know, this is also possible with open source / free software, which is an excellent argument for having some sort of free host as your common denominator, but it’s still an advantage for Record.)

Why It Beats Other USB Keys

Many music software developers, of course, use USB keys, and each have their own implementations. But Propellerhead have themselves noted some of the complaints:

  • Software that immediately stops working if a key is disconnected or breaks, or that immediately loses the ability to save
  • Companies that charge extra for the dongle
  • Companies that charge you a significant portion or the full cost of a product if you break or lose your key. (Oh, by the way, if you’re out there and that’s your policy, I have some really, really special words for you.)
  • Some software requires both a USB key and challenge/response authorization of each individual machine … yeah, again, special words, not family-friendly.

Propellerhead have addressed all of these issues. Most importantly, the replacement policy: you’ll only need to pay a nominal fee to get a replacement. That doesn’t make this a perfect solution (see below), but it does beat a lot of the schemes used by other developers with hardware keys.

The basic idea of a USB key is to work like a car key, to make ownership physical and fairly straightforward. Propellerhead have said that they just didn’t like other implementations out there.

So, yes, that’s the good news. But that still leaves some complains.

Why It’s Also Bad News

So, Record beats a lot of other software that uses USB keys. That still leaves some problems. For one, if your host (Pro Tools, Cubase) uses a USB key, you’ll need another one plugged in at the same time to use Record at the same time, unless you have an Internet connection. Also, while the eight-computer setup above makes the key an advantage, if you just have a laptop and desktop, it’s probably easier in most cases just to do the software-only authorization (as in Ableton Live, for instance), and stay authorized. Then, when you’re out on the bus or train or hotel room, you don’t have to dig around for your key, and there’s nothing to lose.

In short, you’ll probably like it better than those software schemes if you move a lot between machines. If you have one laptop you carry everywhere, you may like it less.

I think the other factor in the growing dissent is a trend away from these kinds of anti-piracy schemes in general. Music DRM is dead. Computer games, though still widely pirated, have gone to less restrictions after users rebelled and piracy remained unabated. It’s even true in pro media software. Apple’s Logic and Final Cut have loosened their authorization schemes; Logic even lost its dongle. Sure, some will argue that’s to help Apple sell more computers, except having talked to their software teams, I’m fairly sure they like to sell software. Cakewalk has serial-only authorization on their products; do it once, and forget about it. Software like energyXT, once authorized, will run anywhere on a USB key. And Reaper doesn’t even require authorization at all; it’s honor system-based.

Likewise, I’m a bit disappointed that this is yet another USB key that doesn’t do anything – it seems like it’d be an ideal way to tote around presets, though admittedly, that might mean you have to buy it. I’m sure the iLok people could point out that, unlike their key, this can only authorize Record and not other software, though that’s less of an issue with an app that (for better or for worse) doesn’t support plug-ins.

It’s just not a black and white issue, as developers remain nervous about piracy and keeping their businesses open. But if developers want to understand why users are resistant, I think the evidence is there.

My sense is that this won’t be a deal-breaker for everyone, and a lot of people are enthusiastic enough about Record that they’ll live with the key, just as people live with, say, the online authorization in a tool like Ableton Live.

I do think we need more reasoned discussion of these issues, though, instead of defensive developers and frustrated users just venting. It’d also be great to see some solid metrics on how these approaches work.

Okay. I’m publishing this. If you need to vent in comments, fine; I’m staying out of it.

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Do they realize that USB is a precious resource with computers already having way too few..to use this software I would have to disconnect a hardware device and my new laptop will most likely have even less...how is that for counter-productive!? I believe many people steer way clear of companies using this method..and should. Everyone already thought this was a bad idea on Pro Tools and Steinberg software... Not smart at all Propellerheads...

aagh.

This blows a fat dick, i bought the software, now I cant use my audio interface, this wack ass dongle, and a controller at the same time without going to buy a usb hub.. I am using reason on a laptop I only have 2 ports you fuck tards..

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I was surprised to read this when i was at the Propellerheads shopping page.

quote:

Your license numbers are automatically registered to your user account when your order has been processed, so you can start using Record through online verification right away, while waiting for your package with Reason and the Ignition Key to arrive!

- unquote

I was actually going to buy the bundle (Reason + Record) yet but now i highly doubt i will.

Dongle software protection is the same as other protections, it can and WILL be cracked anyway.

The only thing what happens here right now is that Propellerheads bothers its clients with this dongle crap.

I would rather install my copy on 1 or 2 PC's and use it anywhere at any time, even without internet connections than being able to install it on hundreds of computers and use it with a single dongle key (which makes no sense at all).

So now i take Native Instruments Komplete into consideration instead of Reason.

What's even worse is that the copy-protection has destroyed the potential for Record to become an industry standard. Nobody knows what it is and that will continue to be the case until it is cracked or released without copy protection.

In the end, the dongle will definitely be compromised as I've seen other software using this measure cracked wide open. With that said, I respect that Propellerhead wants to curb piracy but the only people who suffer in the end are the paying customers. Imagine when this gets cracked; potentially, hacked users will have an easier time than paying ones.........

it's already 29 december 2010

WTF!! it still not cracked yet....

btw that liscensing issue we have spent almost two months and still haven't seen a resolve for - was caused by either the Propellerhead website or the Ignition key - which after the error would let us put any of our liscenses on the key and screwed up our account.

Would like to have your recoding studio down for a couple months and stilll down due to a liscensing issue?

Any manual input type liscensing or downloadable liscense would have had a liscensing issue resolved in one day.

Over two months and still not resolved in our book or most software companies book is totally unaccepable - apparently not Propellerheads though.

Hell they still won't admit - though they made changes to our account - and we sent them the error codes we recieved that their site or software screwed up...

in summery - don't buy it - even if it can produce golden albums - what good is it if you can't liscense the thing - even after you pay for it?

almost 2 mnonths and counting now and still we have an issue with getting a new liscense put on our ignition key after upgrading to Reason 5/Record 1.5 duo.

Further more they claim our Reason 4 and REcord 1.0 liscenses can't be on the same key - but didn't issue a second key - so it's more of a Yes you own all 4 liscenses - but must choos one or the other. For inorder to use one or the other - you must remove one or the other each time you switch programs or comps.

Personally from our experience - the thing is dead weight, takes up a usb slot that could be used by something that actually serves a real working purpose - like a Keyboard or Audio interface perhaps?

And Laptops only come with two usb slots to begin with...

And now, 1.5 years later, Propellerhead Record is still safe from the pirates. Instead of going for a mainstream corporate dongle system like iLok, Syncrosoft or PACE, I suspect they designed their own and it was a wise development decision. The Props are great guys and don't overcharge for their products. They're software is worth paying for.

As a person who has dealt with Dongles it the past, it's a pain in the ass for so many reasons. I don't know where to begin on that. It is just safe to say that it sucks and as one person pointed out, the ones who get inconvenienced are not the people using the cracked copy, but those who have to use the dongle. Just leave the software alone and if people trade it online, oh fucking well. No matter how hard you try, it's going to get cracked.

@Think Again - You say it will NEVER be cracked?? Surely you are kidding right? I assume so since the Assassins Creed II PC game you are speaking of was eventually cracked (although it took the crack teams awhile). Assassins Creed II had some of the most rediculous and invasive DRM ever and was a direct target of the software hacks because of it. Nevermind the backlash from the DRM on the PC game Spore. As far as this Record program I can't see why these guys would make a program like this with that kind of DRM!! From what I can understand a challenge is what attracts the crackers anyway. They WANT it to be hard to break so they can get the credit for doing it. Its all a big war between those groups anyway. So to think this dongle thing is going to be a big challenge is a bit simple of Propellerheads. They will have something(crack, phony licenses, etc) that you can drag and drop to a simple USB flash/thumb drive and its "game over" for the dongle. Then all the money spent on DRM (dongles, etc) is a total waste and could have been better spent making the product a better one. Unbelievable that they even tried this. Its like they hung a big flashing neon sign on Record that says "Hey, hey lookie here... bet you cant crack me!" I myself have used Cakewalk Pro Audio all these years and for me it still works great! So I wouldnt be interested with our without the dongle. Either way ... once a hacker gets ahold of one of those dongles, its game over for the paying customers of Record and this dongle DRM because the paying customers will be the only ones inconvenienced by the usage of it. The pirates wont need it!!!!!!!!

I don't think I would ever use a DAW that needs some stupid USB dongle or internet access to work.Like Record,Cubase,Mackie etc....

What a f__king hassle.

I suppose I'll just keep on plugging away with my beloved Ableton.

It's the most flexible DAW out there anyway.

If I buy a copy of Record 1.0 and upgrade to Record 1.5... will this legitimate copy of mine work with a pirated copy of REASON 5.0? :)

Niether try to buy Record 1.5 for Reason owners.. i did it... and didn´t work, when i try to register it they ask me for reason´s registration codes which none of cracked reasons have´em... so i need to buy reason, not to lose the money i already paid to save some money!!!!! now is worst! thanks god i want he software and i buy it.. but.. dont do it, niether if you buy record alone, because doesn´t work in rewire with reason and that will be even worst!... They made it!

This program CANNOT and WILL NOT be cracked EVER! Period! Neither will Assassin's Creed 2 for PC.

Haha it never ceses to amaze me how many people would palm off a great creative tool because they are against a copy protection.

I'm quite sure the benefits of the software would outway the drawbacks of the copy protection for anyone who was really serious about buying Record in the first place.

With that said I think the design of any dongle should be as small as many of the USB receivers for wireless mice, to minimize breakage. And perhaps double as a single port USB hub. This would be very easy to design but probably has not been thought of.

Also the idea mentioned earlier of having a timed internet activation (like 24 hours) would really help. Or being able to use your iPhone internet connection in some way (for the average user) to activate the program.

If the usb's had 4gb space and support ReadyBoost then it won't be bad :)

Well, certainly seems like this actually worked. Record has yet to be cracked, and their already releasing the new one, plus the dongle isn't majorly intrusive or facing any big bugs!

Um, if I lose my phone will someone replace it free of charge? Or my camera? It's my responsibility, no-one else's.

Capitalism is about profit is about product (do you charge a fee for your skills?) Software is a product. Get over it.

It seems to me that the idea of the key is to stop pirates, Loosing the makers money but this isn't so the pirates never intended to buy the software in the first place, and the people who would have bought it but wont because of the key well thats is loosing them money, It will be pirated and some who would have bought will now look for a pirate copy and good on them, my usb ports are used up along with all the sockets in 3 usb hubs so sod the keys Get a Pirate copy without the hasstle !

I just bought Reason/Record. I have the propellerhead usb..

when I try setting up record.. The Register and Authorize pop up comes up and i click the green one. But it says it doesnt get a signal..

I have great internet connection.. Do you know what wrong?

I have asked friends that are experienced with this stuff.. But we cant seem to figure it out..

Thankyou:)

It's misleading... A dongle that comes in a retail box shouldn't have to be authorized over the internet. Now that I think of it, a content provider should never be forced to expose their system or creations to the web. There's no telling what might be transfered on/off via dongle or web connection.

The only good solution is online authentification at installation only.

I think it's a wonderful idea but that the technology is generally lacking. I think that it should work within a timeframe like 24 hours and not on each file ope. If the key breaks, boohoo buy another copy of the software since you would buy another computer if that broke. Lastly the software should be on the dongle; now that's just common sense. I'm definitely getting a copy, and I'm not even a musician.

A dongle isn't such a big deal to me - although it is a pain if I run out of USB ports.

The thing that I find funny is the folks out there who have an illegal copy of Reason.

Will this dongle for ReCord alter their copy of Reason?

Is this Propellerhead's way of finding those "pirated" copies of Reason?

Just a conspiracy theorist - and my 2¢

Good article (above).

Take care.

A USB-dongle seem to be bullshit and not well thought: mostly all my USB ports are used for masterkeyboard, external soundcard, mouse or whatever. So to use this program I need also a hub for all USB devices- no thank you!! Ever thought what to carry all around....

Thx Propellerheads you can keep your software by yourself, I won't buy it!!

I have a pirate reason3. but when I was told about this program by a musician who records for a living, i was hyped. i have a slow computer. So i thought i would get a laptop, with nothing but reason on it, and a controller. i sold my Motif 6 because I am so pro reason. I have a controller.

So i knew i would have to buy the real version, and this program was the reason.. But the problem now seems to be the internet... i am also trying to SLOW my internet activity... And certainly dont want a laptop hooked to it. i had the idea of makine a kind of "niko" type keyboard by having a laptop, and reason, and a small mic set up for the rare live performances i might do (wedding here and there)

im not worried about breaking it. i have a magic jack and my interface to the computer is usb for the controller...

But i dont know about having to be on the internet 24/7 to just OPEN the program that i have already registered once. So I go to some apartment complex club house to play at a "church" gathering, and I have to Figure an internet connection?!?! So What? do i have to buy a wireless 3g usb as well? And a bus for all that stuff? I really want that software... and I hear a pirate version wont sync... but i really want that software... So I have to spend a goo gob in addition to it to make it work?

I work for at7t..and let me tell ya, the wifi usb internet things work crappy if you are in a neighborhood thats wooded..Such as an unincorporated suburb, or in a place where there is high florescent light output.....SUCH AS A BANQUET HALL WHERE I WOULD BE PLAYING!!!!! God I dont wanna buy some other company's crap when make my set up. i see i cant grow with a pirate version.. but now i feel like i cant buy this new software...But they will still get my money cuz i have to buy reason 4. Being a pirate user kinda sucks dude..maybe if i just use it from my home only and make cds to play live... BUT I DONT HAVE A FREAKING KEYBOARD!!! maybe i can keep reason 3 on a laptop to act as a brain for live shows, and play over audio tracks from a cd made with a desktop REASON 4...thats what i'll do.

I have a question, if anyone can answer this. Can the ignition key be copied to another usb flashdrive?

Happy Bunny your comment is understood but does not apply to those with laptops and only 3 usb ports!

A lot of fuss about nothing, my ignition key is in a spare port on my second monitor and I don’t give it a second thought. But maybe that’s because I bought the software, and am not scouring the internet for a crack for a copy downloaded from Rapidshare or similar.

Oh and I bought the software because it is well thought out, excellently designed and brilliantly implemented. Oh and pretty damn cheap compared to other audio software.

Oh dear. I got all excited about Record, and lo and behold they f*ck it up by adding a dongle. From years of Cubase hell I know that dongles are a pain.

So what happens if your about to play a gig and your lose your dongle? Cancel that gig.

Or playing at a gig and some drunk bumps your lappy and snaps your dongle? Apologise and go home.

In addition to my post...the dongle would only need to be plugged in to transfer licenses to the manager then can be up plugged and no longer needed untill new software is purchased!

Its like Ilok with out having to have the ilok plugged in at all times.

As for me because there is no such Protection method i will use the iphone for my internet.

So i can buy record as soon as ATT makes tethering ready ( and no u cant tether yet using 3.1 of the iphone ) Unless Im missing something

One thing that no one is accualy speaking of is that if you use the internet method this means that the internet needs to be present for launching the Software but how many places have internet allways avaible at all time and for free?

Now one option is via Bluetooth from the Iphone provided that AT&T get the darn thethering option working. you can then tehther your laptop to the iphones 3g or edge connection and then supply the net feed needed for accesing the software. This is the best solution being that you dont need to use up a usb port and this way its ur own internet and you take it with you and control the usage.

If you dont want to use up alot of MB from tethering ( AT&T has a 5 GB limit ) you can just enable tethering to launch record and then close it when record is launched. If you need to re load Record just reenable tethering.

But being that the pc is not downloading anything its just connected you can leave tethering connected but dont download anything

have no browswers open and have all blockers and firewalls enabled to block the possibilty of spam and the possibility of getting hit with a MB load.

Its as if Propeller head assumes that the internet is in all places and is free.

they also assume that everyone that uses Records will be mostly Desktop users but in the videos they show a laptop user!

Did they not look into the fact that CUBSE NUENDO PRO TOOLS USE USB DONGLES AND MOST LAPTOPS ONLY HAVE 3 USB PORTS.

Now we can get a HUB but most dongles dont want to be plugged into the hub.

The best Copy protection is to use a Dongle that does not need to be plugged in for the sofrware to load rather to transfer the license to a license manager that knows all the licenses loaded from the Dongle and loads the software with out the dongle but the manager becomes the "dongle"

and the manager uses the dongle for its list of Authorised applications

and this type of dongle would not be so darn fat in the booty but sleek and not long.

75% less the size of a USB memory stick

so that when its pressed in its very close to the surface of the laptop so the pertrusion is minimal.

As for me this whole Dongle issue is a deal killer for me as I am based on a laptop.

So I will wait for a new version of record that does not have this limitation

well they have come a long way from rebirth mods now they have dongle keys well done propeller head you have now lost any respect i had for your souls , you can all burn in hell as far as im concerned you fucking wasted the digital rack concept i think they added an arpegiator in version 4 :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO thats fucking horrendous i had one in the 80s Jesus Christ someone tell these fuck heads straight WE ARE NOT STUPID WE ARE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR CHILDISH DUPLO TYPE CRAP YOU GREEDY POUND SIGN EYED FUCK HEADS.

@Gary I fully support that sentiment.

I am a pirate, and will continue to be a pirate as a result of this.

As a 16 year old kid living on £45 a week in a flat but attending a music production college I think I was one of the few people out there that was qualified to say he had no choice but to pirate, and although in the near future when I have acquired the right to get a job, (my country's equivalent of a green card still hasn't arrived for me yet), I was going to start by buying Reason and the other apps I use.

If Propellerhead decide to go ignition key for everything, I, and everyone else who doesn't want DRM on thier PCs (Starforce games anyone?) will download the pirated version that doesn't require the key or an internet connection.

I've used reason and rebirth for many years as a paying customer and I am very excited about Record... very excited indeed.

Unfortunately, I will NOT support the use of DRM, Dongles and software which can screw me over when I've booked expensive room time or am on the road with no reliable internet connection.

If reason5 is DRM'd I *will* pirate for the first time in my life. I shall almost certainly be pirating 'Record' and I don't feel guilty.

Propellerheads are obviously making enough money to pull off some impressive R&D and coding *despite* widespread piracy... all this is doing is squeezing the last drops from the market at the expense of the legitimate end user, not the pirates.

And this *will* be broken, as *every* DRM so far appears to have been.

Seriously, I'm increasingly seeing the pirates P.O.V. Propellerheads are on the verge of losing my custom completely in the next release of reason I fear.

Shame that, but paying for this would be like being arrested and expected to pay for the use of the handcuffs.

I'm a propellerheads fan because they make my work EASIER... if they start hampering me they lose.

Ignition key my ar5e!

Gary

re noise is 40 quid if i was getting into music production the guy will be implementing a piano roll soon and other very interesting features anyway its a god application up there with able ton reason was good once they have just fallen behind dsp wise i look forward to seeing reason 5 if they haven't pulled there socks up dsp wise i wont be buying. seems lk a big rip off to me for what they give you coupled with the wait forever application updates

on the other hand.. as a consumer and someone who thinks hard about where the next few hundred bucks will go I don't like the idea of giving up a USB port. On the average iMac you have three on the back of the computer and most USB devices don't play well with usb hubs.. so that doesn't give you many options. I currently have 2 midi controllers and a keyboard plugged into mine..

As an optimist I try to see best in these situations and reading the bit on world of goo was pretty darn alarming and interesting. (Read here: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2008/11/acryin...

Wait my precious - I own the key I own USB stick.

But hold on - I have Steinberg Key. USB Soundcard. USB Mouse. USB keyboard. USB Midi interface. USB Anne Summer pregnator. USB Webcam. USB Printer.

USB Sticks, Widgets, Gadgets & Gromits coming out of my ... ears!!!

Why so much more USB

Unparralled Serial Bollox

My studio is slowly becoming a USB Junkie yard. I need to inject to use this, that and the other....I can not survive without it. Dont dangle that dongle I need a USB hit and it promises me unknown fortune and wealth, happiness, success and world domination...or does it.

Come on if a product is seriously used it will be paid for and is worth it, isn't it?! Those who dont pay for it would they buy it?

Now we are told to Ignite our PCs to use 'our' product it is like a car....Yep I am going green ... boycott the dongle it is polluting our planet...it's creating unnecessary responsiblility. I can store a serial number in my confidential email, diary or in a safe....

One thing that was cool about propellarheads was no USB...cracks lead to long and fortified demos...eventually people buy the product cause it's so damn good.

Shame dam shame -

Ban the Nuke...Nuke the Dongles...

The real question is why would Propellerhead invest more time and money in something that they know will be cracked within a week or two of release. None of these protection schemes ever work. Seems they should have put that time and money into making Reason 5 multi core friendly. Now that's progress!

What bllody hell I think it's very fucking upset, yes, to pay and have propellerheads key authorization it's ok. but to pay for reocvering our linces we paid already it's the shits from those companys.

but we are going to to crakc for mack and windows, we are all sure, this war.

I had Pro tools for mac, and I lots a furtune on prlugins due to tranfer and they were ripping me my money and I had to buy beetre a Pt due to the pring was the best to buy a new one, but do not worry I am working in

O-bjetive and cocoa, and all those langues for programing in MAc, and soon the crakc for I lok and this new stuff to come soon will be null to ours crakcs.

I guess I'm one of the minority. I prefer dongles. I have had too many hard drives crash or get errors corrupting programs that a dongle works better for me. Just re-install and go. No calling up tech support and getting a new auth code cause you used up the quota. No need to convince them you just got a bigger hard drive and thats all. The perfect world for the user is no codes at all - I doubt that will ever happen except by hacked programs. I personally have never had a hacked program that worked perfectly either. I have a very cheap usb hub in a locked box screwed under my desk with all my dongles plugged into it. For live uses the best solution would be a run-time version that would play only. Fast and efficient and could install from a cd backup - as many copies as needed.

i'll buy record when a cracked version comes out that doesn't require the dongle. i'm down to support the vendor but not to put up with any bullshit.

@Kyran

"Cracking an app typically isn’t done by “disabling the protection code”, it’s done by making the app believe it is authorised."

actually, i reckon they've probably taken a totally different approach with this one. by the looks of things, the project files are encrypted. the key/online service probably is only used for decrypting the project file. (this could be easily done with an asymmetric encryption scheme). that way, you don't just have to crack the application, you have to work out their keys, which might be impossible. the only possible crack would be to remove the encryption/decryption code from the application and that would be non-trivial.

anyway, that's what it looks like to me.

@A Real Engineer:

Musical talent is inversely proportional to the number of available USB ports?

I have to hand it to you. That's an argument I haven't heard before, at least. What would that mean about the new MacBooks with one or two USB ports? Does it mean you are less talented, since there are less ports, or *more* talented -- i.e., the talent to take up the ports is already built in? ;)

This is a bad idea because hackers will always find a way around the dongle and crack the program, leaving only a bad taste for those of us who want to support the software makers and buy the program. That has already happened to Cubase and that will inevitably happen to Record.

Those who like to steal the program will get an even better version of the program: one that doesn't require the dongle. A dongle doesn't solve anything. It only makes users angry.

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  2. [...] their feature list. Users were divided over the Ignition Key and online authorization scheme (see full explanation), of [...]

  3. [...] our original preview, May, plus details on the "Ignition Key" authorization [...]