Comments on: Into the Woods: Wolfgang Voigt’s GAS, an Audiovisual Black Forest at MUTEK http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/06/01/into-the-woods-wolfgang-voigts-gas-an-audiovisual-black-forest-at-mutek/ The latest gear, software, and techniques for electronic music production and performance Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:10:28 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: baghead http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/06/01/into-the-woods-wolfgang-voigts-gas-an-audiovisual-black-forest-at-mutek/comment-page-1/#comment-912964 baghead Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:14:06 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/?p=6046#comment-912964 this is getting embarassing ...duhhhhhhhh - try http://share.ovi.com/media/Baghead.sounds/Baghead.10064 this is getting embarassing …duhhhhhhhh – try

http://share.ovi.com/media/Baghead.sounds/Baghead.10064

]]> By: baghead http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/06/01/into-the-woods-wolfgang-voigts-gas-an-audiovisual-black-forest-at-mutek/comment-page-1/#comment-912963 baghead Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:12:10 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/?p=6046#comment-912963 well let's try again here's a link that works, I hope http://share.ovi.com/pagenotfound.aspx?aspxerrorpath=/media/Baghead.sounds/Baghead.10064 well let’s try again here’s a link that works, I hope
http://share.ovi.com/pagenotfound.aspx?aspxerrorpath=/media/Baghead.sounds/Baghead.10064

]]> By: baghead http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/06/01/into-the-woods-wolfgang-voigts-gas-an-audiovisual-black-forest-at-mutek/comment-page-1/#comment-912949 baghead Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:52:18 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/?p=6046#comment-912949 Well I didn't say it was bad, only that it was too long for what it offered....saying that listening to GAS "requires active effort, like holding your breath underwater" is very apropos ...i.e that somewhere around the 5 minute mark of each segment (which averaged 9-10 minutes each) you start to get pretty desperate to pop up and gasp a bit for something else ....only to get dunked again ....if you want to try to hold your breath for 8 minutes here's a parody of GAS I did when I got home and knocked out in 10-15 minutes on Ableton Live http://share.ovi.com/media/Baghead.sounds/Baghead.10064...enjoy Well I didn’t say it was bad, only that it was too long for what it offered….saying that listening to GAS “requires active effort, like holding your breath underwater” is very apropos …i.e that somewhere around the 5 minute mark of each segment (which averaged 9-10 minutes each) you start to get pretty desperate to pop up and gasp a bit for something else ….only to get dunked again ….if you want to try to hold your breath for 8 minutes here’s a parody of GAS I did when I got home and knocked out in 10-15 minutes on Ableton Live http://share.ovi.com/media/Baghead.sounds/Baghead.10064…enjoy

]]> By: FSK1138 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/06/01/into-the-woods-wolfgang-voigts-gas-an-audiovisual-black-forest-at-mutek/comment-page-1/#comment-912890 FSK1138 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:23:38 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/?p=6046#comment-912890 check out my 38 min live set from MUTEK 2008 recorded live with wii mote, p5 data glove ableton live and FLstudio direct link in my blog see you at MUTEK in 2010 cheers check out my 38 min live set from MUTEK 2008
recorded live with wii mote, p5 data glove ableton live and FLstudio
direct link in my blog
see you at MUTEK in 2010

cheers

]]> By: rhowaldt http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/06/01/into-the-woods-wolfgang-voigts-gas-an-audiovisual-black-forest-at-mutek/comment-page-1/#comment-912162 rhowaldt Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:32:12 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/?p=6046#comment-912162 @baghead: i think for some people ambient music is just a snoozer because they get bored at a certain point. and i'm not sure judging from Peter's account of this event that the artist's personel performance mattered that much for this show. it seemed to be a lot more about the visuals. also, don't forget that this was a very personal opinion of that show (which is quite logical) and maybe it wasn't at all cool or engaging to you or me that the guy only slightly moved his forearm twice during the entire show, but if you are watching a show like that and you enjoy it, it could be something that fits your perception, so to speak, and you could enjoy it immensely while others think it was lame. i wasn't there at all so i wouldn't know, really. @baghead: i think for some people ambient music is just a snoozer because they get bored at a certain point. and i’m not sure judging from Peter’s account of this event that the artist’s personel performance mattered that much for this show. it seemed to be a lot more about the visuals.
also, don’t forget that this was a very personal opinion of that show (which is quite logical) and maybe it wasn’t at all cool or engaging to you or me that the guy only slightly moved his forearm twice during the entire show, but if you are watching a show like that and you enjoy it, it could be something that fits your perception, so to speak, and you could enjoy it immensely while others think it was lame.

i wasn’t there at all so i wouldn’t know, really.

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/06/01/into-the-woods-wolfgang-voigts-gas-an-audiovisual-black-forest-at-mutek/comment-page-1/#comment-911530 Peter Kirn Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:17:28 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/?p=6046#comment-911530 I think the sound system and brilliant (literally) projection made all the difference. The sounds were nuanced, and for me a lot of the difference was having this fusion with the visuals. Had they been overly dark, you wouldn't have gotten it -- ironically, the "dark" forest really needed to be bright so you got all the subtleties of the projections. I think the sound system and brilliant (literally) projection made all the difference. The sounds were nuanced, and for me a lot of the difference was having this fusion with the visuals. Had they been overly dark, you wouldn’t have gotten it — ironically, the “dark” forest really needed to be bright so you got all the subtleties of the projections.

]]> By: baghead http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/06/01/into-the-woods-wolfgang-voigts-gas-an-audiovisual-black-forest-at-mutek/comment-page-1/#comment-911528 baghead Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:15:15 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/?p=6046#comment-911528 GAS was a snoozer in it's Chicago debut ..a poor sound system didn't help Wolfgang out but come on, be honest ...what he did in 90 minutes could have been cut in half and you wouldn't have missed a thing ...not only that the sounds were pretty much all just sampled and processed or so it seemed for the cellos, clarinets and horns - as for the performance?? stand in a dark corner to the light of a laptop screen and move a few faders every ten minutes?? and then at the end just dial 'em all to zero ...over and out - wtf ?? sorry ...at least the event was free GAS was a snoozer in it’s Chicago debut ..a poor sound system didn’t help Wolfgang out but come on, be honest …what he did in 90 minutes could have been cut in half and you wouldn’t have missed a thing …not only that the sounds were pretty much all just sampled and processed or so it seemed for the cellos, clarinets and horns – as for the performance?? stand in a dark corner to the light of a laptop screen and move a few faders every ten minutes?? and then at the end just dial ‘em all to zero …over and out – wtf ?? sorry …at least the event was free

]]> By: nathan m http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/06/01/into-the-woods-wolfgang-voigts-gas-an-audiovisual-black-forest-at-mutek/comment-page-1/#comment-911203 nathan m Tue, 02 Jun 2009 11:09:52 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/?p=6046#comment-911203 there were other women performing at mutek. not a 50/50 split but it isn't really news that electronic music is sort of a boys club. i8u (france jobin) performed with visualist chika at nocturne 2. the free event play had quite a few women over the three nights. dominique skoltz was showing work as part of extra_muros... i am sure that i missed some. there were other women performing at mutek. not a 50/50 split but it isn’t really news that electronic music is sort of a boys club.

i8u (france jobin) performed with visualist chika at nocturne 2. the free event play had quite a few women over the three nights. dominique skoltz was showing work as part of extra_muros… i am sure that i missed some.

]]> By: rick http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/06/01/into-the-woods-wolfgang-voigts-gas-an-audiovisual-black-forest-at-mutek/comment-page-1/#comment-910585 rick Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:31:01 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/?p=6046#comment-910585 also really enjoyed the gas visuals, was surprised to see petra come up at the end of the performance and have no credits. and am also curious to know more about her work. seems like almost no vjs got credit at mutek.. we also noticed the lack of females, the only other ones in the entire festival (!) was the singer from jahcoozi and the 2 dancers from auto-fiction.. also really enjoyed the gas visuals, was surprised to see petra come up at the end of the performance and have no credits. and am also curious to know more about her work.

seems like almost no vjs got credit at mutek..

we also noticed the lack of females, the only other ones in the entire festival (!) was the singer from jahcoozi and the 2 dancers from auto-fiction..

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/06/01/into-the-woods-wolfgang-voigts-gas-an-audiovisual-black-forest-at-mutek/comment-page-1/#comment-910350 Peter Kirn Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:26:41 +0000 http://createdigitalmusic.com/?p=6046#comment-910350 Yeah, I realize in retrospect I should have gotten a camera pass for a/visions - it seemed off the table, but I should have tried. Then again, filming would have been tricky, so I'll try to go via KOMPAKT and see what they're willing to make public. (I'd need them anyway.) The artist is in fact Petra Hollenbach. Now I just can't find out anything else about her. So maybe I can determine via KOMPAKT what the roles were. Yeah, I realize in retrospect I should have gotten a camera pass for a/visions – it seemed off the table, but I should have tried. Then again, filming would have been tricky, so I’ll try to go via KOMPAKT and see what they’re willing to make public. (I’d need them anyway.)

The artist is in fact Petra Hollenbach. Now I just can’t find out anything else about her. So maybe I can determine via KOMPAKT what the roles were.

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