Comments on: Audiomulch 2.0, Available Mac+PC; Live Patching Video with Hypnotic Guitar

By: Littlepig

Littlepig — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:26:28 +0000

@goldenMaster, you mention ’similar priced softeare from independant developers’ but what software is there that has functionality similar to audiomulch? There is pd but that has objects at a far lower level. The good thing about audiomulch is that you can get good results in a few minutes… Then there is Max/MSP which is a similar level to pd and expensive. really I don’t think audiomulch is expensive for what it does.

By: Andy

Andy — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:19:58 +0000

The big difference is the fact that Audiomulch has a timeline- Max does not and Reaktor does not. This puts it in a different (=better for me) league. Time is the essence of music/sound missing from Reaktor and Max.
Of course you can introduce time into them but Audiomulch makes a bold statement of who it is right from the beginning.

By: Nick P.

Nick P. — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 00:20:39 +0000

@Peter,

You it it on the head. It’s a chicken and egg thing, but in the end it also forces developers to write things people want.

The challenge for patching programs such as Max, Mulch & Plogue is that they are *nerdy*. I always believed that it would be better to just hide the nodal interface away and only present a few well-chosen parameter controls.

When you try to explain that simple fact to developers, they don’t understand why people would pay more for “less flexibility”. Because most people are not programmers; they just want to get things done!

The Mac comes Quartz Composer, an extremely powerful FREE audio/video/graphics nodal program. Yet, very few people use it or even know that it’s there. Why? Because it’s nerdy.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:52:20 +0000

I’ve been playing with this for a few days now, and there’s things I love and things I don’t care for so much. I keep wishing I could toggle into a full-on mixer view (I spend too much time in Pro Tools). Other people have commented on the price – for me, it would be a slam dunk at $99.00, but at 189 I’m a little hesitant.

By: Blake

Blake — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:42:47 +0000

Oh wow, playing with the demo right now. This is really something amazing. If only someone could release a set of high-level objects for Max that would allow it to sound as good with such little effort, I would be in heaven.

By: Peter Kirn

Peter Kirn — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:14:12 +0000

Yes, indeed — he’s definitely promising more stuff. Now is the decisive moment — obviously, if people go out and buy this, the incentive to do a lot more development will be there. If not, well… that’s why it’s sad to have seen Plogue Bidule never take off.

By: golden Master

golden Master — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:11:17 +0000

to nick P and steve…

all good points. thanks for the perspective :).

However, the price is still rather steep, especially compared with some other similarly (lower) priced software made by independent developers.

Either way, I still think that with mulch 2, I think what Ross is going to do over the next couple of years with it is going to be more exciting than what he has done up till now. At least I hope so :D.

By: flonk

flonk — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 05:18:17 +0000

re pricetag, its apples and oranges again, but price for a new user is cheaper than max 4 to 5 upgrade (much cheaper if you have jitter)

By: Mudo

Mudo — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 03:43:48 +0000

…
If this one could send OSC data it could be the alternative to maxforlive (and maxmsp 5).

Everybody could link it with resolume or VDMX and do cool things.

About price for me it is a “pre” maxforlive marketing campaign. When maxforlive comes all the market will resize itself.

…

By: Nicholas Bieber

Nicholas Bieber — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 00:05:20 +0000

Thank god its out.

@Benny:Patching changes in v1.0 couldn’t be recorded, but you could record/automate a lot of events in a timeline (volume/mute, knob movements). I assume it’s still the case. v1.0 also had a document switcher, so if you could easily open up varying versions of the one construct. Recording/replaying patching would be quite a technical feat, I think (not that Ross couldn’t do it :).