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	<title>Comments on: Apple MacBooks: Reappearing FireWire, Disappearing ExpressCard</title>
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		<title>By: Bjorn Vayner</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/06/08/apple-macbooks-reappearing-firewire-disappearing-expresscard/comment-page-1/#comment-919729</link>
		<dc:creator>Bjorn Vayner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers Nick. I wasn&#039;t sure if a Macbook pro would do the trick for both platforms. Still have to try it out with my apps. But I have good faith in it.

@ Oli

Yeah I keep hearing that a lot. But why are there special websites with instructions for this? Why can&#039;t you just use the install disc?
And can you keep it up to date? Do you need to do anything special to update it?

And what about the core level Mac functions?
If my mac has a software issue, I can usually fix it with another Mac in firewire mode. Is this possible with a PC running OSX?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers Nick. I wasn&#8217;t sure if a Macbook pro would do the trick for both platforms. Still have to try it out with my apps. But I have good faith in it.</p>
<p>@ Oli</p>
<p>Yeah I keep hearing that a lot. But why are there special websites with instructions for this? Why can&#8217;t you just use the install disc?<br />
And can you keep it up to date? Do you need to do anything special to update it?</p>
<p>And what about the core level Mac functions?<br />
If my mac has a software issue, I can usually fix it with another Mac in firewire mode. Is this possible with a PC running OSX?</p>
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		<title>By: Oli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even the $330 Lenovo Ideapad S10 Netbook has an ExpressCard slot. I&#039;m sure it even runs OS X.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even the $330 Lenovo Ideapad S10 Netbook has an ExpressCard slot. I&#8217;m sure it even runs OS X.</p>
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		<title>By: Genjutsushi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Genjutsushi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lamest of the lame features - on the 13Inch version the headphone socket also doubles as the line in!!! No more simple recording setup, no more headset with Skype and so on and so on. Dreadful decision!

Also, non changeable battery and no user upgradeable hard drive!!!! Awful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lamest of the lame features &#8211; on the 13Inch version the headphone socket also doubles as the line in!!! No more simple recording setup, no more headset with Skype and so on and so on. Dreadful decision!</p>
<p>Also, non changeable battery and no user upgradeable hard drive!!!! Awful!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bjorn:

For audio development, you can do it all with a Macbook Pro running Bootcamp (for native user experience) or a virtual machine like VMWare Fusion.

Plus, Macs really do run Windows faster, although, I suspect this is due to lower-quality parts found in affordable notebooks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bjorn:</p>
<p>For audio development, you can do it all with a Macbook Pro running Bootcamp (for native user experience) or a virtual machine like VMWare Fusion.</p>
<p>Plus, Macs really do run Windows faster, although, I suspect this is due to lower-quality parts found in affordable notebooks.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryadh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryadh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, nobody seems to have noticed, but the microphone input is lacking in the macbook pro 13&quot;, and this sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, nobody seems to have noticed, but the microphone input is lacking in the macbook pro 13&#8243;, and this sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Bjorn Vayner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bjorn Vayner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool. Well one of these new macbooks is definitely next on my list. But I will also need a Pc eventually since I&#039;m getting more into audio development.
I&#039;ll check out the Asus, MSI stuff. But that just brings me back to square one, because now I gotta study the differences and try to determine which specific parts make for a good laptop.

Thanks for the comments. I can&#039;t remember the time I could have this type of conversation on the web without a flag jacket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool. Well one of these new macbooks is definitely next on my list. But I will also need a Pc eventually since I&#8217;m getting more into audio development.<br />
I&#8217;ll check out the Asus, MSI stuff. But that just brings me back to square one, because now I gotta study the differences and try to determine which specific parts make for a good laptop.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments. I can&#8217;t remember the time I could have this type of conversation on the web without a flag jacket.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VAIOs... no, thanks. So case in point.

But Bjorn, there are definitely more machines out there. A lot of musicians are indeed now using the Rain Recording machines. Also worth checking out: Asus, MSI. I&#039;ve seen machines from each of those guys that work really well. I think it&#039;s not coincidental that Asustek and MSI are also two of the biggest mainboard manufacturers. Quanta, the biggest, is the company that makes the Apple MacBook. But MSI and Asus actually have their own brand and support and do a good job of it.

Anyway, if I can find a way to do this scientifically, I will. And that goes for Apple, too, because a lot of that is also heresay.

But if you&#039;ve heard the only working PCs come from Apple and Sony(!), you&#039;ve definitely heard wrong. That&#039;s something we can work on. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VAIOs&#8230; no, thanks. So case in point.</p>
<p>But Bjorn, there are definitely more machines out there. A lot of musicians are indeed now using the Rain Recording machines. Also worth checking out: Asus, MSI. I&#8217;ve seen machines from each of those guys that work really well. I think it&#8217;s not coincidental that Asustek and MSI are also two of the biggest mainboard manufacturers. Quanta, the biggest, is the company that makes the Apple MacBook. But MSI and Asus actually have their own brand and support and do a good job of it.</p>
<p>Anyway, if I can find a way to do this scientifically, I will. And that goes for Apple, too, because a lot of that is also heresay.</p>
<p>But if you&#8217;ve heard the only working PCs come from Apple and Sony(!), you&#8217;ve definitely heard wrong. That&#8217;s something we can work on. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Bjorn Vayner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bjorn Vayner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 04:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely appreciate that it is a huge challenge to keep track of all the PC&#039;s out there. But that is not really the point, I&#039;m only interested in those that work, which already disqualifies a lot of models when it comes to audio production.

In the end, we all use computers. Every single last one of us. While you can debate about different models forever, you can&#039;t argue with benchmark results.
The only references of PC&#039;s that work I have in mind would be Kraftwerk using the Vaio&#039;s and macbooks running windows.

The computer is pretty much the most important tool you need to create digital music..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely appreciate that it is a huge challenge to keep track of all the PC&#8217;s out there. But that is not really the point, I&#8217;m only interested in those that work, which already disqualifies a lot of models when it comes to audio production.</p>
<p>In the end, we all use computers. Every single last one of us. While you can debate about different models forever, you can&#8217;t argue with benchmark results.<br />
The only references of PC&#8217;s that work I have in mind would be Kraftwerk using the Vaio&#8217;s and macbooks running windows.</p>
<p>The computer is pretty much the most important tool you need to create digital music..</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@autoy: Well, I&#039;d say *computers* are giant bundles of variables, Macs included. Talk to someone doing Mac support. ;)

@Bjorn: I do think that&#039;s a good idea. The closest I&#039;ve seen is the guide Cakewalk did, but it&#039;s just tough to keep up with the sheer quantity of PC laptops out there. What might make sense is some kind of knowledge base about chipsets, etc. And frankly, that could benefit even the Mac side, because Macs *are PCs* in terms of internal hardware -- especially these days, when people are running Linux, too, and it&#039;s not just about the OS. (I could go on about that -- look at the amount Apple is promising to do on the GPU, too, using OpenCL... you&#039;ve got a lot of hardware and code that&#039;s identical regardless of OS)

That really does sound like a horror story. I&#039;ve been lucky not to go there. There&#039;s no debating the variability of the experience is broader on the PC -- sometimes in a good way, sometimes in a scary way.

By the way, yes, sometimes the Mac has an advantage because of fewer hardware choices. But I&#039;d also say there are cases in which Apple does things better with the *same* choices as, say, Windows. That should be a point scored for the Mac side, so I&#039;m a bit puzzled way Mac advocates lately have bought the Apple corporate arguments that say it&#039;s just about their level of control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@autoy: Well, I&#8217;d say *computers* are giant bundles of variables, Macs included. Talk to someone doing Mac support. ;)</p>
<p>@Bjorn: I do think that&#8217;s a good idea. The closest I&#8217;ve seen is the guide Cakewalk did, but it&#8217;s just tough to keep up with the sheer quantity of PC laptops out there. What might make sense is some kind of knowledge base about chipsets, etc. And frankly, that could benefit even the Mac side, because Macs *are PCs* in terms of internal hardware &#8212; especially these days, when people are running Linux, too, and it&#8217;s not just about the OS. (I could go on about that &#8212; look at the amount Apple is promising to do on the GPU, too, using OpenCL&#8230; you&#8217;ve got a lot of hardware and code that&#8217;s identical regardless of OS)</p>
<p>That really does sound like a horror story. I&#8217;ve been lucky not to go there. There&#8217;s no debating the variability of the experience is broader on the PC &#8212; sometimes in a good way, sometimes in a scary way.</p>
<p>By the way, yes, sometimes the Mac has an advantage because of fewer hardware choices. But I&#8217;d also say there are cases in which Apple does things better with the *same* choices as, say, Windows. That should be a point scored for the Mac side, so I&#8217;m a bit puzzled way Mac advocates lately have bought the Apple corporate arguments that say it&#8217;s just about their level of control.</p>
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		<title>By: autoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>autoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bjorn:
&quot;I want to see an actual guide by musicians and bloggers like yourself. An unbiased voice of authority and facts to back it up.&quot;

Sounds reasonable but it&#039;s impossible. PCs are not Macs. There are so many variables -not only due to hardware combinations but also user software combinations, unreliable set of drivers etc.- that it is nearly impossible to take particular experiences as &quot;facts&quot;. You don&#039;t deal with those kind of things on a Mac and it&#039;s something a lot of PC users don&#039;t understand -the so-pomposly-called Mac experience- until they own one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bjorn:<br />
&#8220;I want to see an actual guide by musicians and bloggers like yourself. An unbiased voice of authority and facts to back it up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sounds reasonable but it&#8217;s impossible. PCs are not Macs. There are so many variables -not only due to hardware combinations but also user software combinations, unreliable set of drivers etc.- that it is nearly impossible to take particular experiences as &#8220;facts&#8221;. You don&#8217;t deal with those kind of things on a Mac and it&#8217;s something a lot of PC users don&#8217;t understand -the so-pomposly-called Mac experience- until they own one.</p>
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