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	<title>Comments on: Chip Strikes Back: Finnish Label Sues Timbaland, Nelly Furtado</title>
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		<title>By: Create Digital Music &#187; Inside Beaterator, Rockstar Games&#8217; New PSP Beat Maker, with Gory Technical Bits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Create Digital Music &#187; Inside Beaterator, Rockstar Games&#8217; New PSP Beat Maker, with Gory Technical Bits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] which aleges Timbaland plagiarized music by Finnish composer Janne Suni – made worse by a lawsuit and a glib interview in which the artist responded, “It’s from a video game, idiot.” Timbaland is by no means the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] which aleges Timbaland plagiarized music by Finnish composer Janne Suni – made worse by a lawsuit and a glib interview in which the artist responded, “It’s from a video game, idiot.” Timbaland is by no means the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge from Madrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge from Madrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ronald Stewart

&quot; He used a similar argument on a obscure and LAME sample from a guy in 1972 ...&quot;

Well, thing is Biz Markie, the &quot;sampling hero&quot;, didn&#039;t take an obscure sample at all. &quot;Alone again naturally&quot; by Gilbert O&#039;Sullivan is a classic pop tune much more famous than Biz&#039;s work. It reached #1 in the bill board for 6 weks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alone_Again_(Naturally)

He, in fact, take EIGHT bars and most of the chrorus.

And please, calling &quot;lame&quot; and disrespecting the author as &quot;uncool&quot; so we &quot;the electronic generation&quot; could do whatever we want is not the same as Timbaland is doing with his &quot;it&#039;s from a video game, idiot&quot;?

Biz Markie&#039;s court CASE was historical from a sampling-policy point of view, yes, but I meant in my comment that usually unsigned or independent musicians could not contact the ARTIST. They can contact the LABEL, and that&#039;s very different.

I bet a lot of musicians have different opinions about sharing than their layers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ronald Stewart</p>
<p>&#8221; He used a similar argument on a obscure and LAME sample from a guy in 1972 &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, thing is Biz Markie, the &#8220;sampling hero&#8221;, didn&#8217;t take an obscure sample at all. &#8220;Alone again naturally&#8221; by Gilbert O&#8217;Sullivan is a classic pop tune much more famous than Biz&#8217;s work. It reached #1 in the bill board for 6 weks.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alone_Again_(Naturally)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alone_Again_(Naturally)</a></p>
<p>He, in fact, take EIGHT bars and most of the chrorus.</p>
<p>And please, calling &#8220;lame&#8221; and disrespecting the author as &#8220;uncool&#8221; so we &#8220;the electronic generation&#8221; could do whatever we want is not the same as Timbaland is doing with his &#8220;it&#8217;s from a video game, idiot&#8221;?</p>
<p>Biz Markie&#8217;s court CASE was historical from a sampling-policy point of view, yes, but I meant in my comment that usually unsigned or independent musicians could not contact the ARTIST. They can contact the LABEL, and that&#8217;s very different.</p>
<p>I bet a lot of musicians have different opinions about sharing than their layers.</p>
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		<title>By: lematt</title>
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		<dc:creator>lematt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m a big fan of Timbaland as a producer... but i don&#039;t approve the &#039;8 bit theft&#039; though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m a big fan of Timbaland as a producer&#8230; but i don&#8217;t approve the &#8216;8 bit theft&#8217; though.</p>
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		<title>By: LZR</title>
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		<dc:creator>LZR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, late addition: Check here: 

http://www.whosampled.com/artist/DJ%20Shadow/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, late addition: Check here: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.whosampled.com/artist/DJ%20Shadow/" rel="nofollow">http://www.whosampled.com/artist/DJ%20Shadow/</a></p>
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		<title>By: LZR</title>
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		<dc:creator>LZR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Smelly-Fur-Taco: I was actually shocked when I heard some of the original tracks DJ Shadow sampled. Especially the Entoducing-Album is very, very lame production- and sample-flipping-wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Smelly-Fur-Taco: I was actually shocked when I heard some of the original tracks DJ Shadow sampled. Especially the Entoducing-Album is very, very lame production- and sample-flipping-wise.</p>
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		<title>By: workingit</title>
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		<dc:creator>workingit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is funny and sad. no one is posting.

http://www.timbalandmusic.com/forum/default.aspx?cid=238&amp;tid=336907

http://www.timbalandmusic.com/forum/default.aspx?cid=238</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is funny and sad. no one is posting.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timbalandmusic.com/forum/default.aspx?cid=238&amp;tid=336907" rel="nofollow">http://www.timbalandmusic.com/forum/default.aspx?cid=238&amp;tid=336907</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.timbalandmusic.com/forum/default.aspx?cid=238" rel="nofollow">http://www.timbalandmusic.com/forum/default.aspx?cid=238</a></p>
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		<title>By: nocturnus</title>
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		<dc:creator>nocturnus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, somewhat related story.  I was looking at all the YouTube videos on this Timbaland subject again, found a clip about another sample he used, uncredited, for his &quot;Indian Flute&quot; song.

The original source - &quot;Curura&quot; by Toto la Momposina - was also used even more liberally by Michel Cleis for his &quot;La Mezcla&quot; track on Cadenza, which has been quite a big hit in the tech house/minimal world in the last year.

I&#039;m not sure if Cadenza cleared the sample, however the bigger and more commercial dance label Strictly Rhythm has recently licensed it and they in fact credit the original artist, leading me to believe they must have cleared the sample and/or will pay royalties to the copyright/publishing owners.

So at least someone is doing the right thing, if not Timbaland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, somewhat related story.  I was looking at all the YouTube videos on this Timbaland subject again, found a clip about another sample he used, uncredited, for his &#8220;Indian Flute&#8221; song.</p>
<p>The original source &#8211; &#8220;Curura&#8221; by Toto la Momposina &#8211; was also used even more liberally by Michel Cleis for his &#8220;La Mezcla&#8221; track on Cadenza, which has been quite a big hit in the tech house/minimal world in the last year.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if Cadenza cleared the sample, however the bigger and more commercial dance label Strictly Rhythm has recently licensed it and they in fact credit the original artist, leading me to believe they must have cleared the sample and/or will pay royalties to the copyright/publishing owners.</p>
<p>So at least someone is doing the right thing, if not Timbaland.</p>
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		<title>By: Smelly-Fur-Taco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smelly-Fur-Taco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t they cut off your hands in some countries when you get caught stealing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t they cut off your hands in some countries when you get caught stealing?</p>
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		<title>By: workingit</title>
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		<dc:creator>workingit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NICE! Smelly-Fur-Taco</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NICE! Smelly-Fur-Taco</p>
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		<title>By: workingit</title>
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		<dc:creator>workingit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i get what your saying Timbalame, but do you think if some one sampled one of these CD&#039;s Timbaland would sue that person?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpisW9gwbqo&amp;feature=related

not saying it would or should happen, just that Timbaland may think he own&#039;s this music because he found it(purchased the CD)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i get what your saying Timbalame, but do you think if some one sampled one of these CD&#8217;s Timbaland would sue that person?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpisW9gwbqo&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpisW9gwbqo&amp;feature=related</a></p>
<p>not saying it would or should happen, just that Timbaland may think he own&#8217;s this music because he found it(purchased the CD)?</p>
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