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	<title>Comments on: Happy 30th, Sony Walkman: Your Memories and the Best of Cassettes on CDM</title>
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		<title>By: Lynsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently found my old bulky walkman intact and thought i would dust off some old cassettes to see if it still worked. Amazingly it did and since then i have been able to listen to some old mix tapes with my walkman in my bag and my white ipod headphones in my ears....it puts a smile on my face every time and i love the fact that my current headphones have brought an 18 year old gadget back to life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently found my old bulky walkman intact and thought i would dust off some old cassettes to see if it still worked. Amazingly it did and since then i have been able to listen to some old mix tapes with my walkman in my bag and my white ipod headphones in my ears&#8230;.it puts a smile on my face every time and i love the fact that my current headphones have brought an 18 year old gadget back to life!</p>
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		<title>By: ISO50 Blog - The Blog of Scott Hansen &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Walkman Turns 30</title>
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		<dc:creator>ISO50 Blog - The Blog of Scott Hansen &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Walkman Turns 30</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Digital Music has a nice piece on the Walkman&#8217;s 30th Birthday. Pretty surprising actually, I don&#8217;t think I became aware of the Walkman until &#8216;85 or [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Digital Music has a nice piece on the Walkman&#8217;s 30th Birthday. Pretty surprising actually, I don&#8217;t think I became aware of the Walkman until &#8216;85 or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Create Digital Music &#187; Sony Walkman-Sequenced Gakken Synth, by Gijs Gieskes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Create Digital Music &#187; Sony Walkman-Sequenced Gakken Synth, by Gijs Gieskes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Sony Walkman turns 30, many of the mobile cassette&#8217;s fans wax nostalgic. But it takes Gijs Gieskes to wire up a new [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cassettes were my first creative foray into music about 25 years ago! I used to make what I called &#039;pause button remixes&#039; using a &#039;tape to tape&#039; double deck system. Extending sections of tracks, intricate (probably messy) edits. Sadly I don&#039;t have any of those recordings - I&#039;d love to hear them. I was 11 and heavily inspired by the burgeoning use of sampling in pop music and a steady diet of hip hop/electro through the Electro series of compilations. 

I&#039;ve come full circle as I still use tape now, a Studer A70! Making tape loops, warming up recordings - I love the tactileness of handling and manipulating tha tape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cassettes were my first creative foray into music about 25 years ago! I used to make what I called &#8216;pause button remixes&#8217; using a &#8216;tape to tape&#8217; double deck system. Extending sections of tracks, intricate (probably messy) edits. Sadly I don&#8217;t have any of those recordings &#8211; I&#8217;d love to hear them. I was 11 and heavily inspired by the burgeoning use of sampling in pop music and a steady diet of hip hop/electro through the Electro series of compilations. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve come full circle as I still use tape now, a Studer A70! Making tape loops, warming up recordings &#8211; I love the tactileness of handling and manipulating tha tape.</p>
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		<title>By: A Belated Birthday&#8230; &#124; Inside Home Recording.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Belated Birthday&#8230; &#124; Inside Home Recording.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] birthday twigged my interest after reading a post on Create Digital Music - the site made their own birthday homage, but also brought up a bit of a spin that brought some [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kyran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, minidisc was like the perfect mix between a cassette and a cd: virtually no skipping easy recording of stuff or creating mixtapes and they could take a beating before stopping to function.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, minidisc was like the perfect mix between a cassette and a cd: virtually no skipping easy recording of stuff or creating mixtapes and they could take a beating before stopping to function.</p>
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		<title>By: lilith</title>
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		<dc:creator>lilith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cassettes were teh isht, such a great form factor and you could make your own mixtapes. CDs are more awkward. dont miss tape hiss.

I still have an old deck plus an early 80&#039;s Walkman which looks totally rad. I grew up with the Aiwa and Panasonic ones, I kept losing or breaking them, still have the Panny. and many tapes.

I also liked Minidisc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cassettes were teh isht, such a great form factor and you could make your own mixtapes. CDs are more awkward. dont miss tape hiss.</p>
<p>I still have an old deck plus an early 80&#8217;s Walkman which looks totally rad. I grew up with the Aiwa and Panasonic ones, I kept losing or breaking them, still have the Panny. and many tapes.</p>
<p>I also liked Minidisc.</p>
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		<title>By: johnp</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@PK: I realize the transfer/medium history, but the cassette was especially brutal, and as I was trying to say (before coffee this AM..), the Walkman transformed the way people HEARD (fidelity-wise) music, and not for the better. 

But I always look at the other side too ..how it made music much more available to people without funds. A good parallel for these dark times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@PK: I realize the transfer/medium history, but the cassette was especially brutal, and as I was trying to say (before coffee this AM..), the Walkman transformed the way people HEARD (fidelity-wise) music, and not for the better. </p>
<p>But I always look at the other side too ..how it made music much more available to people without funds. A good parallel for these dark times.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John: Absolutely, history repeats itself. I&#039;m not sure about blaming the distribution medium and the engineers for squashing dynamic range, however. This is interesting, as we had mastering engineer Daniel Wyatt at DubSpot last weekend, and he was inclined to transfer blame to the A&amp;R people, not the engineers.

There is a certain point at which a compact cassette runs out of dynamic and frequency range - although when those cassettes were new and well-made, they actually did reasonably well. (The same could be said of something like MP3 - just substitute &quot;high bitrate&quot; for &quot;clean.&quot;)

If you really want to compensate for low-fidelity devices, to some extent you&#039;re going to try to preserve the range of the recording. A squashed recording is going to sound even worse on the low-fidelity gizmo. 

And anyway, yes, in turn we can go back to transistor radios that had a two decade headstart on the Walkman.

...and so on and so forth to the dawn of recording and jukeboxes, which did indeed have some hand in killing live music, or to the piano roll and music notation, which helped generate piracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John: Absolutely, history repeats itself. I&#8217;m not sure about blaming the distribution medium and the engineers for squashing dynamic range, however. This is interesting, as we had mastering engineer Daniel Wyatt at DubSpot last weekend, and he was inclined to transfer blame to the A&#038;R people, not the engineers.</p>
<p>There is a certain point at which a compact cassette runs out of dynamic and frequency range &#8211; although when those cassettes were new and well-made, they actually did reasonably well. (The same could be said of something like MP3 &#8211; just substitute &#8220;high bitrate&#8221; for &#8220;clean.&#8221;)</p>
<p>If you really want to compensate for low-fidelity devices, to some extent you&#8217;re going to try to preserve the range of the recording. A squashed recording is going to sound even worse on the low-fidelity gizmo. </p>
<p>And anyway, yes, in turn we can go back to transistor radios that had a two decade headstart on the Walkman.</p>
<p>&#8230;and so on and so forth to the dawn of recording and jukeboxes, which did indeed have some hand in killing live music, or to the piano roll and music notation, which helped generate piracy.</p>
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		<title>By: johnp</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the elder statesman, get offa my lawn person here, I&#039;d like to &quot;share&quot; a thought or 35..

...in another life, I lasted about 15 minutes as a star au rock, and spent, excuse me, wasted time with various rock denizens, including members of a band from Rockford IL who had recorded a popular lp in Japan, and whose manager also happened to manage the mess I labored in. Upon greeting the Huntz Hall like geetarist on his return from the mysterious East one day in 1979, I happened to notice a set of miniature headphones connected to a shiny little box..&quot;Ricky&quot;, I inquired, &quot;wha the heck you got now&quot;? &quot;Walkman, we got em in Tokyo&quot; was the explanation. Of course I was very jealous, and soon had my own lofi awful sounding appliance as well, all the better to listen to Weather Report on.

I am bringing this up to help illustrate one of those &quot;hizztery b repeating&quot; things..with the recent rightful backlash against blocked out, dynamics-less &quot;music&quot; being made and abetted by the advance of mp3&#039;s, I would direct your attention to what was the beginning of the tragedy, the subject of Peter&#039;s fine blog..the Sony Walkman. Engineers of the day, FINE engineers with good ears who spent weeks slaving over sonic details were appalled by the noise these devices were making, and by the true damage done to their mixes. YOU kiddies know how good a vinyl mix done properly sounds...but put that same beautiful mix on a cassette...whadda ya gots baby? And as the popularity of these awful trash compactors grew, and the Whirl got used to &quot;the Walkman Sound&quot;..engineers began to mix things so they sounded good on them, to the supreme insult and eq battering of real mixes..and that was the start of the end...which is still slip sliding away into digitally maxxed out mp3 land.

As a side note, it&#039;s interesting that Ronald Reagan became preznint at the same time (1980), thus starting the slide of &#039;merika into the shitter as well, but that&#039;s another blog..

I like lofi as much as anyone here, maybe more..but I also like real mixes with real dynamics and real range too. 

ok, back to playing with the great grandkids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the elder statesman, get offa my lawn person here, I&#8217;d like to &#8220;share&#8221; a thought or 35..</p>
<p>&#8230;in another life, I lasted about 15 minutes as a star au rock, and spent, excuse me, wasted time with various rock denizens, including members of a band from Rockford IL who had recorded a popular lp in Japan, and whose manager also happened to manage the mess I labored in. Upon greeting the Huntz Hall like geetarist on his return from the mysterious East one day in 1979, I happened to notice a set of miniature headphones connected to a shiny little box..&#8221;Ricky&#8221;, I inquired, &#8220;wha the heck you got now&#8221;? &#8220;Walkman, we got em in Tokyo&#8221; was the explanation. Of course I was very jealous, and soon had my own lofi awful sounding appliance as well, all the better to listen to Weather Report on.</p>
<p>I am bringing this up to help illustrate one of those &#8220;hizztery b repeating&#8221; things..with the recent rightful backlash against blocked out, dynamics-less &#8220;music&#8221; being made and abetted by the advance of mp3&#8217;s, I would direct your attention to what was the beginning of the tragedy, the subject of Peter&#8217;s fine blog..the Sony Walkman. Engineers of the day, FINE engineers with good ears who spent weeks slaving over sonic details were appalled by the noise these devices were making, and by the true damage done to their mixes. YOU kiddies know how good a vinyl mix done properly sounds&#8230;but put that same beautiful mix on a cassette&#8230;whadda ya gots baby? And as the popularity of these awful trash compactors grew, and the Whirl got used to &#8220;the Walkman Sound&#8221;..engineers began to mix things so they sounded good on them, to the supreme insult and eq battering of real mixes..and that was the start of the end&#8230;which is still slip sliding away into digitally maxxed out mp3 land.</p>
<p>As a side note, it&#8217;s interesting that Ronald Reagan became preznint at the same time (1980), thus starting the slide of &#8216;merika into the shitter as well, but that&#8217;s another blog..</p>
<p>I like lofi as much as anyone here, maybe more..but I also like real mixes with real dynamics and real range too. </p>
<p>ok, back to playing with the great grandkids.</p>
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