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	<title>Comments on: Record Your Session to the Web: Indaba&#8217;s Online Recording Studio Launches</title>
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		<title>By: Presentations in Week 10 &#171; Rmitmusic09&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/07/09/indaba2launch/comment-page-1/#comment-972755</link>
		<dc:creator>Presentations in Week 10 &#171; Rmitmusic09&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 06:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] * Canada&#8217;s finest, and most panda bear like scratch turnablist, Kid Koala, releases his album for free : &#8220;Here is a link to the full album… we figured you’d have more fun at the shows if you had heard these first… feel free to pass it on to your friends. enjoy.&#8221; * Recording live to the web? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Edita audio vía Internet con Indaba</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/07/09/indaba2launch/comment-page-1/#comment-957299</link>
		<dc:creator>Edita audio vía Internet con Indaba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Enlace: Indaba Vía: Create Digital Music [...]</description>
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		<title>By: spinner</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/07/09/indaba2launch/comment-page-1/#comment-942475</link>
		<dc:creator>spinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s so almost.....but not.... there.
I&#039;m waiting for something like this for teaching purposes as it would be so great to have an tool accessible by all students regardless of platform and to some extent computer speed. The problem with that right now however is broadband speeds.
As a collaborative platform it all depends on how good the offline application will be. I think I&#039;d rather wait for Live to enhance their online feature because then I wont have to constantly swap platforms when editing.
However as an &quot;impulse-use&quot; platform I can absolutely see it&#039;s use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so almost&#8230;..but not&#8230;. there.<br />
I&#8217;m waiting for something like this for teaching purposes as it would be so great to have an tool accessible by all students regardless of platform and to some extent computer speed. The problem with that right now however is broadband speeds.<br />
As a collaborative platform it all depends on how good the offline application will be. I think I&#8217;d rather wait for Live to enhance their online feature because then I wont have to constantly swap platforms when editing.<br />
However as an &#8220;impulse-use&#8221; platform I can absolutely see it&#8217;s use.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnG</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/07/09/indaba2launch/comment-page-1/#comment-941832</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Peter: I totally get it -- &quot;impulse-use&quot; has it&#039;s place.  But we&#039;re talking music here, something that we all (probably everyone reading your blog) take very seriously.  I would think that the impulse crowd would gravitate towards JamGlue and Splice, while the more hard-core musicians (the desktop tool fans) would be found on Indaba and Kompoz.  That&#039;s why I&#039;m surprised Indaba would put so much effort into this JavaFX tool, unless they&#039;re trying to reach a different audience now.  Good blog post, and good discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peter: I totally get it &#8212; &#8220;impulse-use&#8221; has it&#8217;s place.  But we&#8217;re talking music here, something that we all (probably everyone reading your blog) take very seriously.  I would think that the impulse crowd would gravitate towards JamGlue and Splice, while the more hard-core musicians (the desktop tool fans) would be found on Indaba and Kompoz.  That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m surprised Indaba would put so much effort into this JavaFX tool, unless they&#8217;re trying to reach a different audience now.  Good blog post, and good discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/07/09/indaba2launch/comment-page-1/#comment-941726</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JohnG: Nope, absolutely -- I hear the skepticism; I&#039;m with you. Some of the assumption from the Indaba crowd is that a lot of people don&#039;t want to mess around with software, though, or that it&#039;s too complex or too expensive -- but just being in a browser doesn&#039;t necessarily solve those problems, though it does mean the software is more immediately available (it&#039;s easier to impulse-use), which is important for some. 

@nylarch: Yep, I agree, though the SDK from this spring is a big leap forward. 1.0 at the end of last year definitely felt like 1.0. It&#039;ll be interesting to see how it may mature. It&#039;s already a lot more fun than Swing, for what that&#039;s worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JohnG: Nope, absolutely &#8212; I hear the skepticism; I&#8217;m with you. Some of the assumption from the Indaba crowd is that a lot of people don&#8217;t want to mess around with software, though, or that it&#8217;s too complex or too expensive &#8212; but just being in a browser doesn&#8217;t necessarily solve those problems, though it does mean the software is more immediately available (it&#8217;s easier to impulse-use), which is important for some. </p>
<p>@nylarch: Yep, I agree, though the SDK from this spring is a big leap forward. 1.0 at the end of last year definitely felt like 1.0. It&#8217;ll be interesting to see how it may mature. It&#8217;s already a lot more fun than Swing, for what that&#8217;s worth.</p>
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		<title>By: nylarch</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/07/09/indaba2launch/comment-page-1/#comment-941688</link>
		<dc:creator>nylarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I should probably clarify that when I say JavaFX is clearly 1.0 I&#039;m referring to the display layer only (the actual JavaFX script or whatever its called), and everything else you&#039;re dealing in Java which is about as rich and mature an environment you can find...whereas Flash&#039;s handling of audio is really very 1.0 (while its display code is very mature).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I should probably clarify that when I say JavaFX is clearly 1.0 I&#8217;m referring to the display layer only (the actual JavaFX script or whatever its called), and everything else you&#8217;re dealing in Java which is about as rich and mature an environment you can find&#8230;whereas Flash&#8217;s handling of audio is really very 1.0 (while its display code is very mature).</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/07/09/indaba2launch/comment-page-1/#comment-941673</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JohnG: Indaba seems to be part DAW, part social network where musicians can collaborate (albeit asynchronously).  I don&#039;t see this aspect as being particularly useful for my purposes - live interaction is too integral to my creative process - but I&#039;d be surprised if that powerful social effect didn&#039;t yield some interesting results (Berlin techno-heads finding a Mexican horn section?  I&#039;ll listen).  

For me, more a pop/rocker, I see value as an easy repository for band demos/practice - recordings.  I get a lot of inspiration out of listening back to recordings and catching interesting moments/accidents that I&#039;m practically oblivious to while playing.  It&#039;s kind of tedious cutting my practice sessions, converting to mp3 and sending to bandmates.  A quick place to collect practices and throw in ideas when we&#039;re not practicing might be inspiring...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JohnG: Indaba seems to be part DAW, part social network where musicians can collaborate (albeit asynchronously).  I don&#8217;t see this aspect as being particularly useful for my purposes &#8211; live interaction is too integral to my creative process &#8211; but I&#8217;d be surprised if that powerful social effect didn&#8217;t yield some interesting results (Berlin techno-heads finding a Mexican horn section?  I&#8217;ll listen).  </p>
<p>For me, more a pop/rocker, I see value as an easy repository for band demos/practice &#8211; recordings.  I get a lot of inspiration out of listening back to recordings and catching interesting moments/accidents that I&#8217;m practically oblivious to while playing.  It&#8217;s kind of tedious cutting my practice sessions, converting to mp3 and sending to bandmates.  A quick place to collect practices and throw in ideas when we&#8217;re not practicing might be inspiring&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Spex - Magazin für Popkultur &#187; Der Spextrakt</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/07/09/indaba2launch/comment-page-1/#comment-941672</link>
		<dc:creator>Spex - Magazin für Popkultur &#187; Der Spextrakt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] DIGITAL: Indaba&#8217;s Online Recording Studio Das Netz ist im Wandel: L&#228;ngst ben&#246;tigt man nicht mehr die teure Software auf dem Computer, um Bilder zu bearbeiten, Textdokumente zu erstelllen oder Videos zu schneiden. Googles j&#252;ngste Ank&#252;ndigung, ein eigenes Betriebssystem um den Browser Chrome zu bauen, ist das letzte deutliche Signal in dieser Sache. Nach dem Berliner Startup Hobnox mit seinem Audiotool wird nun auch der digitale Audioschnitt- und Arrangementplatz ins Netz verlagert. Die Indaba Music Session Console stellt ein Aufnahme-, Mixing- und Editing-System zur Verf&#252;gung, das direkt &#252;ber den Browser funktioniert &#8211; der Kauf und die Installation von Software wird somit beinahe &#252;berfl&#252;ssig &#8211; jedenfalls f&#252;r diejenigen, die mehr experimentieren denn professionell produzieren m&#246;chten. Ein Test sowie ein Tutorial-Video findet sich hier. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] DIGITAL: Indaba&rsquo;s Online Recording Studio Das Netz ist im Wandel: L&auml;ngst ben&ouml;tigt man nicht mehr die teure Software auf dem Computer, um Bilder zu bearbeiten, Textdokumente zu erstelllen oder Videos zu schneiden. Googles j&uuml;ngste Ank&uuml;ndigung, ein eigenes Betriebssystem um den Browser Chrome zu bauen, ist das letzte deutliche Signal in dieser Sache. Nach dem Berliner Startup Hobnox mit seinem Audiotool wird nun auch der digitale Audioschnitt- und Arrangementplatz ins Netz verlagert. Die Indaba Music Session Console stellt ein Aufnahme-, Mixing- und Editing-System zur Verf&uuml;gung, das direkt &uuml;ber den Browser funktioniert &ndash; der Kauf und die Installation von Software wird somit beinahe &uuml;berfl&uuml;ssig &ndash; jedenfalls f&uuml;r diejenigen, die mehr experimentieren denn professionell produzieren m&ouml;chten. Ein Test sowie ein Tutorial-Video findet sich hier. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Indaba Music launches online digital audio editing tools &#124; Social Nibble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indaba Music launches online digital audio editing tools &#124; Social Nibble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JohnG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hdez, I understand your Goole Docs analogy.  But here&#039;s the thing: when I travel, I have my laptop with me.  And GarageBand, Pro Tools, Logic, Reaper, Sonic -- all the great tools we love -- work just fine on a laptop.  So I&#039;d much rather use those tool.  I prefer the Kompoz (www.kompoz.com) approach, which is to work offline, then share my tracks using Kompoz. Use the site for the sharing and social network aspects, and use my DAW(s) for the real work.  I think Kompoz also has a dektop app, but it&#039;s only for uploading multiple tracks to their site.  Not sure if Indaba has the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hdez, I understand your Goole Docs analogy.  But here&#8217;s the thing: when I travel, I have my laptop with me.  And GarageBand, Pro Tools, Logic, Reaper, Sonic &#8212; all the great tools we love &#8212; work just fine on a laptop.  So I&#8217;d much rather use those tool.  I prefer the Kompoz (www.kompoz.com) approach, which is to work offline, then share my tracks using Kompoz. Use the site for the sharing and social network aspects, and use my DAW(s) for the real work.  I think Kompoz also has a dektop app, but it&#8217;s only for uploading multiple tracks to their site.  Not sure if Indaba has the same.</p>
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