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	<title>Comments on: On Behringer&#8217;s Track Record, &#8220;Value,&#8221; and &#8220;Copies&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: red button</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/09/06/on-behringers-track-record-value-and-copies/comment-page-2/#comment-1042978</link>
		<dc:creator>red button</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bottom line is Behringer is an unethical company.  When you buy their gear (especially when you buy it new) you, by default, support their activity.  Think how cheaply other companies could produce these products if Uli and his thugs weren&#039;t stealing their market share via copying ALL of their R&amp;D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line is Behringer is an unethical company.  When you buy their gear (especially when you buy it new) you, by default, support their activity.  Think how cheaply other companies could produce these products if Uli and his thugs weren&#8217;t stealing their market share via copying ALL of their R&amp;D.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Downing</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/09/06/on-behringers-track-record-value-and-copies/comment-page-2/#comment-1000655</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Downing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This &#039;arguement&#039; seems to go on and on.  With one group of people who later will be saying copying CDs is OK, copying software is OK, copying DVDs is OK because the companies are all fat cats.  Funny though, to half the rest of the World, we all look like fat cats, so when your job, your function, is given to someone who&#039;ll do it for 1/10th the price, you&#039;ll think that&#039;s fair game as well?  No?  So what&#039;s the difference. If your employers products and services are done by someone else who uses a website like yours, logos like yours, the same paint and colours as you the same core message as you - but never did the learning and R&amp;D you&#039;ve been through, never looks after clients like you do - if you business starts to fail because someone does that to you - you still think that&#039;s just fair game, just fair competition?

Personally I think people come up with all sorts of weak ideas and justifications for why they don&#039;t want to pay the market rate and keep their neighbours employed.  1. They are just mean people. 2. They don&#039;t understand how the market works and don&#039;t want to.  3. When they lose their job they&#039;ll be the first to complain.  But at least they will be able to complain without being put in prison for doing so - we have free choice, freedom, and democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8216;arguement&#8217; seems to go on and on.  With one group of people who later will be saying copying CDs is OK, copying software is OK, copying DVDs is OK because the companies are all fat cats.  Funny though, to half the rest of the World, we all look like fat cats, so when your job, your function, is given to someone who&#8217;ll do it for 1/10th the price, you&#8217;ll think that&#8217;s fair game as well?  No?  So what&#8217;s the difference. If your employers products and services are done by someone else who uses a website like yours, logos like yours, the same paint and colours as you the same core message as you &#8211; but never did the learning and R&amp;D you&#8217;ve been through, never looks after clients like you do &#8211; if you business starts to fail because someone does that to you &#8211; you still think that&#8217;s just fair game, just fair competition?</p>
<p>Personally I think people come up with all sorts of weak ideas and justifications for why they don&#8217;t want to pay the market rate and keep their neighbours employed.  1. They are just mean people. 2. They don&#8217;t understand how the market works and don&#8217;t want to.  3. When they lose their job they&#8217;ll be the first to complain.  But at least they will be able to complain without being put in prison for doing so &#8211; we have free choice, freedom, and democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jules Malone</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/09/06/on-behringers-track-record-value-and-copies/comment-page-2/#comment-999515</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules Malone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s been a lot of talk elsewhere on the web, but no one here has mentioned Behringer&#039;s latest rip: Bugera amps are Peavey clones.

Here&#039;s the breakdown.

Bugera 333 = Peavey 3120
Bugera 333XL = Peavey JSX
Bugera 6260 = Peavey 6505
Bugera 6262 = Peavey 6505+</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s been a lot of talk elsewhere on the web, but no one here has mentioned Behringer&#8217;s latest rip: Bugera amps are Peavey clones.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the breakdown.</p>
<p>Bugera 333 = Peavey 3120<br />
Bugera 333XL = Peavey JSX<br />
Bugera 6260 = Peavey 6505<br />
Bugera 6262 = Peavey 6505+</p>
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		<title>By: adam wolters</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/09/06/on-behringers-track-record-value-and-copies/comment-page-2/#comment-986005</link>
		<dc:creator>adam wolters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm. on the subject of intellectual copyright and apple..... Really there was a company called apple before apple decided to steal that clever name for a corporation (apple corps geddit?) and it was owned by the beatles. Who sued apple for the name, but guess what; an american court found in favour of an american company.
Leaving the poor beatles down to their last 100 million, and having to use candles to light their mansions.
Basically everyone steals website designs. And Behringer retro engineer loads of stuff that perhaps they shouldn&#039;t. But even though its a stone rip off . I LOVE the ECM8000 omni microphone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. on the subject of intellectual copyright and apple&#8230;.. Really there was a company called apple before apple decided to steal that clever name for a corporation (apple corps geddit?) and it was owned by the beatles. Who sued apple for the name, but guess what; an american court found in favour of an american company.<br />
Leaving the poor beatles down to their last 100 million, and having to use candles to light their mansions.<br />
Basically everyone steals website designs. And Behringer retro engineer loads of stuff that perhaps they shouldn&#8217;t. But even though its a stone rip off . I LOVE the ECM8000 omni microphone.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Ikulous</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/09/06/on-behringers-track-record-value-and-copies/comment-page-2/#comment-972272</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Ikulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a company like Behringer had existed when I was a teen, I would have been able to afford music gear much sooner and wouldn&#039;t have turned to a life of crime.  But seriously, there are many respected companies like Akai and Korg who crank out cheaply made products, and Behringer&#039;s &quot;clones&quot; aren&#039;t really clones.  they may look like the pedals they are imitating, but what&#039;s inside is very different, more so that many of the very sought after boutique clones of vintage stomp boxes, so you could say they came up with an affordable new take on someone else&#039;s idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a company like Behringer had existed when I was a teen, I would have been able to afford music gear much sooner and wouldn&#8217;t have turned to a life of crime.  But seriously, there are many respected companies like Akai and Korg who crank out cheaply made products, and Behringer&#8217;s &#8220;clones&#8221; aren&#8217;t really clones.  they may look like the pedals they are imitating, but what&#8217;s inside is very different, more so that many of the very sought after boutique clones of vintage stomp boxes, so you could say they came up with an affordable new take on someone else&#8217;s idea.</p>
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		<title>By: wi_ngo</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/09/06/on-behringers-track-record-value-and-copies/comment-page-2/#comment-971071</link>
		<dc:creator>wi_ngo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Akai Professional recently changed their site as well.  Didn&#039;t go with the Apple color scheme, but did do the same type of layout:

http://www.akaipro.com/en/index.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Akai Professional recently changed their site as well.  Didn&#8217;t go with the Apple color scheme, but did do the same type of layout:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.akaipro.com/en/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.akaipro.com/en/index.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BCF2000 FTW!  I got one for $100 and use it to control in-the-box mixing in Logic and Pro Tools with much more precision and &#039;feel&#039; than a mouse offers.  Much better choice than dropping an extra grand to get a combo control surface/audio interface!  And that&#039;s all I have to say about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BCF2000 FTW!  I got one for $100 and use it to control in-the-box mixing in Logic and Pro Tools with much more precision and &#8216;feel&#8217; than a mouse offers.  Much better choice than dropping an extra grand to get a combo control surface/audio interface!  And that&#8217;s all I have to say about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Downpressor</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/09/06/on-behringers-track-record-value-and-copies/comment-page-2/#comment-971044</link>
		<dc:creator>Downpressor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had a BCR2000 that I bought used. Was never happy with it due to software issues and the knobs not &quot;responding right&quot; (IMO). Worked in studios with Behringer gear and never been happy with it. YMMV. My money goes elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had a BCR2000 that I bought used. Was never happy with it due to software issues and the knobs not &#8220;responding right&#8221; (IMO). Worked in studios with Behringer gear and never been happy with it. YMMV. My money goes elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: mike ferrell</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/09/06/on-behringers-track-record-value-and-copies/comment-page-2/#comment-971034</link>
		<dc:creator>mike ferrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an engineer (many years experience, big name company, computers, not pedals) I&#039;d like to point out that most good engineers (not the brilliant ones, but the good ones) are primarily good at functional desing, which often includes re-engineering of existing components and using pre-existing standard components. Behringer engineering is not brilliant (although they do often add some useful features to the stuff they copy), but anyone that thinks that re-engineering something and putting it on the market for a far lower price is not good engineering and difficult to do has never done it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an engineer (many years experience, big name company, computers, not pedals) I&#8217;d like to point out that most good engineers (not the brilliant ones, but the good ones) are primarily good at functional desing, which often includes re-engineering of existing components and using pre-existing standard components. Behringer engineering is not brilliant (although they do often add some useful features to the stuff they copy), but anyone that thinks that re-engineering something and putting it on the market for a far lower price is not good engineering and difficult to do has never done it.</p>
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		<title>By: jackson</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/09/06/on-behringers-track-record-value-and-copies/comment-page-2/#comment-971010</link>
		<dc:creator>jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Behringer&#039;s cool. Just not original. Big deal- Even if you don&#039;t buy their gear it keeps the Boss/etc from excessive retail pricing.

Had 3 pedals and an interface. All beyond the expectations. Though the acoustic pedal did &quot;become&quot; a fuzz box (real cool buzz sound actually) after a few months of use (common problem with that pedal).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Behringer&#8217;s cool. Just not original. Big deal- Even if you don&#8217;t buy their gear it keeps the Boss/etc from excessive retail pricing.</p>
<p>Had 3 pedals and an interface. All beyond the expectations. Though the acoustic pedal did &#8220;become&#8221; a fuzz box (real cool buzz sound actually) after a few months of use (common problem with that pedal).</p>
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