Math Wall

I hope you liked music while it lasted, because me and a bunch of nerds are about to replace it with … this. Photo (CC-BY) João Trindade

Music celebrities have given CDM words to live by over the years — strange, yet strangely profound, reflections on the evils of modern technology. Sure, they’re trying to make some point about MP3 compression or the potential distractions of the Internet or … something. Yet, taken out of context, they form a kind of beat poetry for our time.

2006, Bob Dylan: “New records … have sound all over them.
… CDs are small. There’s no stature to it.”

2007, Elton John: “Hopefully the next movement in music will tear down the internet…
There’s too much technology available.”

Elton John’s words led us to create the verb “to Elton John,” meaning to disconnect from the Internet in order to get some actual music making done.

And now, in 2010, we have Prince.

“The Internet’s completely over.”

Source: The Mirror, Via MTV

Yeah, completely. Okay, he did have some … I don’t want to say “explanation,” which would usually denote “a set of statements constructed to describe a set of facts which clarifies the causes, context, and consequences of those facts.” He had what I will describe as “further words.”

“I don’t see why I should give my new music to iTunes or anyone else. They won’t pay me an advance for it and then they get angry when they can’t get it.”

Edit: As noted by Chris Randall, he’s probably referring to the practice of paid advances for exclusivity at brick-and-mortar retailers. That doesn’t actually make this comment make any sense, though, coming from the man who once touted his own online store and who would presumably not have to give his music to anyone in order to be on “The Internet.”

Anyway, let’s not get stuck on these minor details. Elton John tearing down the Internet was much more interesting than the Internet being “over.”

“The internet’s like MTV. At one time MTV was hip and suddenly it became outdated.”

“Outdated,” you say? Something that was … big in the 80s? And now struggles to validate his its significance? Go on.

The true profundity of Prince comes in regards to digital devices:

“Anyway, all these computers and digital gadgets are no good.
They just fill your head with numbers and that can’t be good for you.”

And just like that, Create Digital Music got its new motto.

Remember, look out. We’re using maths to destroy your brain.

Prince – world exclusive interview: Peter Willis goes inside the star’s secret world

Update: an interesting factoid for you. I see no evidence Prince couldn’t continue to offer fans direct purchasing of his album on “The Internet,” particularly if online stores aren’t paying him for exclusivity. It’s his earlier, evidently failed attempt to do so that’s pertinent here. Not only did Prince in 2004 say he would build his own music store online, but he offered, at the time, what was described as a “lifetime membership” to the store. Apparently that was Prince’s Website’s lifetime, not your lifetime, because the site itself — npgmusicclub.com — is gone. (Thanks to Darren Halm for pointing to the 2004 NYT story.) The site, for its part, was a huge success – at least in the unsubstantiated claims of the press release at the time, which described “hundreds of thousands” of members paying for the subscription model. That would mean hundreds of thousands of lifetime members who now have … nothing? (I’m trying to find out if that’s the case.)

Aside from the end of online subscriptions on his own site, Prince has removed himself from YouTube, and closed his own Website.

I guess the Internet really is over, at least in Prince’s secret world.

  • http://retrothing.com James Grahame

    He's a wealthy 50-something musician whose career peaked in the mid-eighties. Not exactly an expert on digital communications. ;)

  • Blob

    The Internet is over! O.o

    Prince's statement filled my head with too many words. I need a quick digital fix of numbers to numb the pain.

  • Tru

    So his album is out now on analogue tape?

  • http://www.darrenhalm.com Darren Halm

    Weird. Wasn't he expounding on the positive aspects of releasing music on the internet just a few years ago?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/29/technology/29pr

  • Adrian Anders

    Internets: How Do they work?

  • http://www.createdigitalmusic.com Peter Kirn

    @Darren: that was when the Internet was still going. Now, the Internet is over.

  • http://www.edisonsdemo.tumblr.com edison

    ha…

    that just kinda made my day…

  • fredo

    Prince will be seen as a prophet when we are desperately trying to free ourselves from the technological overlords in the great Luddite uprising of 2024.

  • CPRoth

    Yes, but didn't Senator Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) say that the internet was 'a series of tubes'? That'd make it analog, Sir Glyph, which means you can go there and make records that sound just like Lenny Kravitz!

    Hey, this is fun!

  • bliss

    I think Prince was referring to the Web – as we now know it – not necessarily the Internet. He's right on that point. But the thing about the numbers was silly.

  • K Sandvik

    To be fair, there's some truth to what Prince is hinting at. Peoples' attention span is now down to single digit seconds, nobody's really listening to music anymore. It's just a background filling feature with some nuggets now and then that penetrates the mind, usually at important events like first date or something similar.

  • http://turntablepoetry.com/blog dj professor ben

    Hahahaha I love Prince as a musician, but man what a boob. At least his nonsense is consistent in some weird way — digital music fills your head with numbers, and electric guitar fills your body with electricity: later in the article, he says, "Playing electric guitar your whole life does something to you. I'm convinced all that electricity racing through my body made me keep my hair."

  • velocipede

    Publicity = expensive

    Controversy = priceless

  • http://www.psimaquia.cl Alejandro

    The faster the communications go, slower our world goes.

  • lucke

    so cheap… i bet he's got no more money left and an upcoming album he wants to sell better with that statement.. oh better: the label wanted him to say that…

  • spinner

    I don't think what he's saying is entirely wrong (bar the shock value to promote his new album).

    The internet is occupying more space in peoples life than TV has ever done. Wasn't the sofa time of an average viewer some 4 h per day in the early 90s. I wonder how many hours an average viewer of the net is clocking up?

    Sure there's tons of interesting stuff & some evidence that democracy is being push forward in some small respect. However in what way are we benefited by a daily overdose of Facebook?

    It took MTV a good 15 years to lose it's appeal to the youngens. The tinternet has been around for a bit longer now but of course there's lots of more porn on it too ;)

  • http://www.myspace.com/k1ru six.fingered.demon

    ah yes…prince…

    he should just stick to assless chaps and keeping the humidity up in the female nether regions. leave the math interwebs to us…

  • teej

    well this is just great. i just got back from a weekend camping trip, sans-laptop, and i totally missed the entire end of the internet! can someone turn it back on for a few minutes so i can just grab my email real quick? kthxbai

  • neutral

    Sounds like Prince has been reading McLuhan…

    "The story of modern America begins With the discovery of the white man by

    The Indians."

    http://www.marshallmcluhan.com/poster.html

  • Mr Bitterness

    AS I've pointed out on twitter, he's been a major force globally (if not always in the USA) for 30+ years. What he's very effectively done is gotten major exposure for his album all over the internet that he says is 'over'. Other than that, he's following the same model of "give it away" and then market the tour, enhanced product, etc.

    People have said his career was over for quite a while and yet somehow he lives to die another day, and his bottom line hasn't suffered much either. His music isn't for everyone, but it never was. Give me his career any day. 10 years from now people will be talking about how his career is almost over. Still.

  • Strangeglow

    Time to line my raspberry beret with tin foil.

  • http://www.createdigitalmusic.com Peter Kirn

    Okay, clarification: I'm not trying to start a debate with Prince over whether the Internet is "over" a la MTV, so I wouldn't call it "controversy." That would presume this is a question even worth discussing. ;)

    It's still the "Computers … just fill your head with numbers, and that can't be good." quote that keeps echoing in my mind. It's brilliant.

  • JonYo

    "They won't pay me an advance for it."

    I'm wondering if this part of his statement is indicative of his personal ownership of a very costly state-of-the-art recording studio and his failure to recognize the decreasing relevance of that for new artists due the democratizing aspects of affordable high-quality recording technology. Sure, you can still get a "more perfect" recording by spending a jillion dollar advance on that sort of studio, but while home recording used to mean extremely half-assed demos, it now means getting results about 50%-95% as good as the jillion dollar studios, depending on the talent and patience of those involved. (The value of a "pro" studio may be falling, but I think talented producers and engineers are still worth their high price if they're really experienced and talented enough, but, I suppose that's a separate discussion.) What's "over" isn't the internet, it's the days of the very best and truly timeless albums coming *soley* from multi-million dollar artists with exclusive access to multi-million dollar studios. In my opinion, the next "White Album" or "Dark Side Of The Moon" or "Kid A" or whatever is as likely to come from a self-produced artist recording on affordable equipment as it is likely to come from a big budget session.

    The fact that a well-produced song recorded, mixed and mastered entirely in the digital realm is indistinguishable from an analog-sourced song to 99.9% of the population makes his statement about "filling your head with numbers" sound pretty stupid.

    Is he just trying to equate itunes to a record label that has something to do with the production of an album as opposed what it really is, a distributor and marketer of a already-produced retail product with a price markup that he doesn't like? Man, he's coming off as such a putz.

    As for whether or not the internet is reducing our musical attention span to sound-bite lengths of background hum, well, that's a different topic entirely.

  • Griotspeak

    Prince is a Genius.

    Genius.

    But he lives wherever Geniuses-named-Prince live. which resembles our world, but is NOT our world.

    He visits us every now and then.

    @JonYo – the downside to that democratizing is the devaluing of 'good sound.' People feel like they can do everything and anything just because they have a doodad for it. that is great in the empowerment respect, but terrible for people who honestly want to make a living doing something that is now 'democratized.'

  • greg

    Do you think Prince considers any box with knobs on it "not a computer?" Like there is an actual tiny church in his rack unit reverb.

  • Seamus

    This is awesome. Truly the best interview I've read in years. God bless you, Prince :)

  • MrLemonhog

    The internet isn't over…but Prince is.

    Perhaps someone should tell him that record advances are basically history, even for newer, more relevant artists.

  • Foosnark

    It’s still the “Computers … just fill your head with numbers, and that can’t be good.” quote that keeps echoing in my mind. It’s brilliant.

    IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM! as a friend of mine would say, but I'd settle for a t-shirt.

    I've already given some thought to naming my next album awkwardly after this quote.

  • Spazmatron

    I'm not sure what he's saying and I don't really care…it's Prince! "If you can describe it, it ain't funky!". He's the man! (in heels)

  • tom vicky

    I have only bought 1 cd in my life that was pooped out of a record label. What these pop-actor-anti-appropriation shit fucks say does not matter. These are the people still trying to profit off of art and try to make it an un-touchable product, instead of readily allowing it to be used for derivative works. (though most things they poop out, spark any scoopable interests at all.) Regardless, let them leave our internets, when we sample them and make ill tracks, they won't be here to make a commotion.

    At least WFMU plays some crazy stuff on the radio near me in the nyc area, now the interwebs are gone, i don't know where I'll be able to stream new releases from anyone in the world at any moment from anywhere i am.

  • Auditory Canvas

    Sounds like a veery clever marketing spin for a new album to me. An ironic one too really, he's now hot news all over the internet, with his name back on people's minds, words, and opinions….

    Seems like the old tried and tested spin methods are still working.

  • http://www.eigenzone.org Geert Bevin

    @Peter, it's an interesting quote and will surely resonate with a lot of people. It's a weird thing isn't it how math, logic, numbers seems 'cold' and 'impersonal' to many people. In my heart they're merely tools, just as paint, paper, … However, they live in a virtual world and can't be physically interacted with. That's what might be the reason behind a lot of people struggling with them. Now that I think more about this, another aspect is that none of our primary senses are able to capture numbers or logic. Maybe we should advocate for the brain or thoughts being officially a sixth sense :-)

  • NU4M

    …it must be shitty being a musical genius, with the ability to play dozens of actual instruments & of international fame, but not being able to create anything that's as popular, groundbreaking or financially successful as a kid with a laptop.

  • http://naufolio.augmentedrealityag.com naus3a

    somebody please explain to Prince that music is all about numbers and math :)

    he sounds so naif he's almost cute :)

  • ehx

    When you sell more the 100 million records of "ill, sample-based, laptop jams", then you can critique Prince. The internet is nothing more than a toilet for the uninspired and the amateur.

  • max

    Prince is Crazy. Doesn't keep that quote from being great, though.

  • vger

    Wow: Prince complaining that someone refuses to pay 'up front' for his artwork. Anyone who's done any tech work for him may understand the outlandish irony that lurks in that statement…..

  • http://MusicRadar Ben Rogerson

    The great irony here is that Prince actually won a Webby Lifetime Achievement Award in 2006 for "his visionary use of the Internet to distribute music and connect with fans".

    His decision to disown it seems to stem from the fact that he can't control it. He's tried and failed, alienating many of his fans in the process.

    Still, at least he's not going his album away in the UK with The Mail on Sunday this time. I had to smuggle it up to the cash desk wrapped in porn mags when I bought it in 2007 just to save myself from embarrassment.

  • http://oksrecordingsofnorthamerica.com painfulleginjuries

    C'mon guys admit it, he makes a good argument with solid evidence for taking that point of view.

  • Joe

    this made me laugh.

  • http://djlogic.es DJLogic

    Internet is Over…???…no problem i'm making a security copy…this man is crazy, who will be next, the end of the world in 2012…?…ops…¡¡¡

  • http://music.cornwarning.com chaircrusher

    Prince is nuts. He has cocooned himself in a world his money can buy, which is looking more like a pocket universe about to bud off from our own and float away.

    He's also gotten himself into the enviable position where he can release loads of really mediocre music with no apparent commercial consequences. At the same time a myth has been created of hundreds of hours of really awesome unreleased music which doesn't see the light of day because "heads ain't ready."

    People talk about Madonna being a master at manipulating the media and her own public persona. Compared to Prince (they're almost the same age incidentally) Madonna is a rank amateur.

    And since I'm here ripping on the man — who, by the way, I think is brilliant when he gets his head out of his butt — let me mention an anecodote:

    In the mid-90s Prince strolls into Paisley Park, and one of his studio engineers is wearing socks with sandles. Prince falls out laughing at the dude and ridicules him mercilessly to anyone within earshot.

    The next day, the poor guy, understandably, ditches the socks. Prince rolls in, and fires him on the spot. Because the guy wouldn't stand up for socks & sandles, or because he had ugly toes, who knows? Prince hires and fires people all the time, for reasons known only to him.

    Genius gains you a certain latitude, but Prince has been abusing it for a long long time.

  • tony

    this guy called prince what i she trying to communicate us, that he could live off all the canon taxes and all the musical rights when he has not made a record in years, I am tired of artist like Paul McCartney, metallica, etc all these old fart knockers that want to live while the dollars come up ringing their bank account as their lazy ass are sitting doing nothing, If it was me controlling the music industry I would post the music to the masses to any artist that doesn't bring new material to the plate. No singles or maxi full on 9 to 10 tracks CD and all songs worth something because its amazing we are paying canon taxes, we are getting eaten by the big record labels paying these old fart knockers for just sitting on their asses. No joke its like me making just 4 records and made top notch videos and now I am tired I want to sit and relax, hell the fuck no, work dammit I work 8 hours a day to have these fart knockers sitting on their mansion and going to vacations where I wish I could go too.

  • http://andrew.hicox.com plurgid

    His name is Prince.

    And he is funky.

    He'll forever be alright in my book because of the time he released a new single on a local NPR affiliate during a pledge drive. That's class, people.

    But of course, there's also "Bat Dance"

    nobody's "on" all the time, I guess.

  • http://andrew.hicox.com plurgid

    and you know … normally I'm the comments curmudgeon, but holy crap … there's some serious haters in this crowd. What's next "he got dolphin teeth?".

    Elton John says basically the same thing and he gets "verb'd" into a positive thing. But Prince (arguably the black Elton John) says it and it's "why's he successfull? I'M not successful! Dude's got a mansion and a fan base … I ain't got a fan base!!" … shiiiiiiit.

    Prince should be as much of a sacred cow (if not more so) than Elton John, even taking into account the travesty that was "Bat Dance"

  • griotspeak

    Think of all the ink he has saved. Look at the liner notes of some many albums:

    All instruments – Prince

    Swoon.

  • CPRoth

    Coupla things:

    @Tony: Um…you couldn't come up with two OTHER artists to slag as "old fart knockers that want to live while the dollars come up ringing their bank account as their lazy ass are sitting doing nothing"?

    Last I looked, both were still recording new material, and actively touring. As for the 'old fart' quotient, well, maybe if we ever meet up I can show ya a few licks! ;)

    As far as the rest goes, what JonYo said.

    Advance? ADVANCE? Did he really say advance? tee hee! chuckle….BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

  • electronic_face

    There's obviously only one solution.

    Internet, you have to purify yourself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka.

  • EK

    Just wanted to mention a couple of things that I don't think have been commented yet; one from each side of the fence:

    1 – From Wikipedia : "On June 12, 2006, Prince received a Webby Lifetime Achievement Award in recognition of his "visionary" use of the Internet." (I think they should take the word "visionary" out of quotes now, in light of the above comments, don't you?)

    2 – The guy is peddling his album through one of the most untruthful, quote-twisting newspapers in the UK, who seem to be doing a great job of getting the word out.(I'm not saying he was misquoted, but I point-blank refuse to believe, or take at face value, *anything* that is printed in that crap-sheet).

  • http://www.createdigitalmusic.com Peter Kirn

    @plurgid: Yeah, I don't quite understand the sudden hostility on both sides. Keep in mind, the translation of Elton John's unintentional wisdom into a verb took some time. I still have to work out what the language might be… couple of brainstorms:

    "Prince it up" — to imbue one's music with extra numbers. ("This mix wasn't working, so I added an extra custom SuperCollider granular delay, that Princed it up real good.")

    "Princeing" — to fill one's head with numbers by assembling a mathematically-rich playlist of IDM, as in "I'm totally Princeing out on the new Monolake album."

    "Jump the Prince" — after "jump the shark," when The Internet is seeming a little stupid and dated, failing to reach its own potential, as did MTV once they stopped showing music videos. Usage: "I mean, come on, all this obsession about rubber-banding your iPhone to avoid the antenna problem has kind of jumped the Prince." or "Bieber jokes have really jumped the Prince. I'm getting off Twitter so I can go get to inbox zero."

    Advanced usage:

    "Comments on CDM about Prince have jumped the Prince, so I'm going to Elton John it for the rest of the day to Prince up my current Ableton/monome set and Prince out to some new records. This new record I got is all Dylaned – sound all over it. Total stature."

  • nicked

    @electronic_face, dude, i swear i was just thinking the same thing!!! heee heeee…

    but oh snap. as a reformed prince devotee this is classic "new" prince thinking(ie. lame prince, sigh) all half cocked(sorry). sure we all know we need a new model for the biz but please don't lament the old days of huge cash advances, remember the warner/slave days? so you'll have to rely on your investment portfolio til' itunes coughs up. my advice, prince: wash yer undies and socks instead of wearing a brand new pair of both everyday, that alone has gotta be a 50K loss a year…

    p.s. i demand the dirty minded,foul mouth prince back. james brown was thr rawest geriatric i've ever seen

  • Abe Mora

    Seriously???

    You can't take a guy serious that wears a blouse!!!!!

  • http://andrew.hicox.com plurgid

    Princed: when you've come to the studio to be funky and you "did not come to fuck around", also you play all the instruments.

    example usage: "I was tryin' to schedule all these session players to record my funk odyssey but it was a hassle so I just went in an princed it in like a day, dude"

  • http://www.createdigitalmusic.com Peter Kirn

    @Abe: actually, come on. I can absolutely take a guy seriously in a blouse.

    In fact, Stefan Sagmeister spoke at OFFF in Lisbon last year in a dress. He was one of the strongest speakers.

    What's hard to take seriously is when people start saying insane things. But that doesn't mean I can't enjoy what they're saying. ;)

  • griotspeak

    The problem here is that we heard unfiltered Prince. 'Pure Prince' if you will.

    Unless playing music, Prince should always have a translator. It really makes sense when you think about it.

  • anechoic

    instant T-Shirt!

    I posted this same quote to my FB page yesterday

    “Anyway, all these computers and digital gadgets are no good.They just fill your head with numbers and that can’t be good for you.”

    been thinking of making a T-Shirt out of it…hmmm

  • http://bluegreengold.net bluegreengold

    take another listen to Batdance

    it always makes me smile

  • Noneon

    I love Prince, but last time I checked, the Linn Drums and Sequential Circuits Drumtraks that he used to such great effects on his early records are "digital devices".

  • http://andrew.hicox.com plurgid

    dammit @bluegreen … you're SO right!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmvRpWWpgiI

  • David

    In the beginning God made the sea

    But on the 7th day he made me

    He was tryin' to rest y'all when He heard the sound

    Sound like a guitar cold gettin' down

    I tried to bust a high note, but I bust a string

    My God was worried 'til he heard me sing

    My name is Prince.

    Seriously, the guy is over fifty. If he feels the digital age has led to a disconnect between musician and 'music' in the organic sense (the guy's a vegan after all), there's nothing particularly weird about that. Sure, we can chuckle about how exactly he phrased it, go all literal on him and ridicule his inconsistencies, but the point he's making is hardly new, and certainly bears no less merit than the opposite position – say, that typing numbers in a tracker or drawing blocks on a piano roll is *exactly* like strumming a guitar.

    Get a decent guitar and a tube amp, hit a few chords and you'll see what he means, even if you ultimately disagree with what he deduces from it all. It's just veganism transferred to music. Take it or leave it…

  • http://www.createdigitalmusic.com Peter Kirn

    @David: The computer, the Internet, the Web, digital audio were all invented by people now over 50. And major innovations have often come from people over 50. I just want to point that out, as a younger person.

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  • Damon

    I don't agree with Prince completely. But he does have a point. Every generation argues the next generation is got it easy or lazy.

    Classical is more genuine than jazz

    Jazz is more genuine than R n B

    R n B is more genuine than Rock N Role

    Rock in Role is more genuine than Punk and Hip Hop

    And people who play conventional instruments are more genuine than those who program music or observe music from the loop point of digital technology.

    Note: And some prefer both kinds of music. Country AND Western (Blues Brother's reference).

    They say Prince plays like 19 instruments, each at a virtuoso level. So, if when Prince speaks out against programmed music or the digital age, he is no different than a Classical aficionado suggesting that all other forms of music are not at the same standard.

    I do think Prince is tossing out the baby with the bathwater, but that is not to suggest he does have something to say about the bathwater.

    And sort of on or off the subject, all mathematical languages are understood and arbitrated by spoken languages. And we could not have digital or mathematical languages, much less understand them, without spoken languages. And one could argue, with this in mind, that the world of digital communication will never be as important or healthy as communication that happens at the spoken language level.

    The number 91225, ILY, will never be as socially or psychologically necessary as the words "I love you."

    And I would suspect that is the essence of what Prince was saying or trying to say. Don't give up on the level of communication that gives all other languages and communication context and meaning. For the most part, a copy will never be as genuine and sincere as the original. A number or a symbol meant to represent the words "I love you" will never be as essential and necessary as the words themselves.

  • Damon

    And a "not" was forgotten

  • marc

    prince should consider the net as what it is : marketing and crowdsourcing tool.

    He do not need to create new content, but can use his fans to work for him with the internet.

    of course , cumulating data makes little sens now.

    there is so many music out there , why bother producing more ?

    that is the main issue the industry needs to think about.

    What to do with the loads of content ?

    we use to have cycling in music. you press an album , and someday it is not available anymore.

    what when all tracks are on the market forever ?

    Digital age lacks of sens it is true.

  • http://routeit.noisepages.com gbsr

    aww pooor prince arent getting paid in advance.

    i guess the internet really is over then, artists arent getting paid in advance these days.

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  • NJ

    I'm late to this discussion but I wanted to add something I didn't see mentioned… that PRINCE may simply be stuck in his own perceptual rut, OR, during that interview moment, what he was saying was a somewhat "Bah, I miss the old days when I would sell fuckloads of ACTUAL VINYL LP'S and have young women beating my door down, I'm sick of this ITUNES nonsense"

    I'm not defending Prince at all, mind you, just that I know many a musical enthusiast who will never "cross over" into what's going on now, simply because they feel that "what came before" was worlds better. Right or wrong?

    This guy I used to work with, Steve, was a HUUUUUUGE XTC fan, in fact, we had long debates about whether they were better than the Beatles, better than the Stones – sure enough, he had a hidden nugget track to totally shut me up when I'd tell him he was crazy, he was a lifelong XTC-head and deservedly so! I learned a lot from him. But one of the things I never got was his love of analog tapes, he would NEVER put them to rest – and I mean, flimsy Maxell 90 minute cassette tapes that got eaten up after a year of being "Walkman'd" to death…

    He hated CD's, they never sounded as good as the real deal to him, and I (as a musician) understand where he's coming from, even a remastered XTC record could never sound as good as his LP at home, never ever! It's just the cheapening of the format, the "DIGITATION" of the magenetic tape, and a thousand other reasons – all of them somewhat worth exploring as to why analog sounds better than digital.

    I think this is what Prince is really getting at, that "his format" – the one that made him a superstar, the one he's "used to dealing with" – it's a forgone conclusion. He can't keep up, nor, does he probably much care to change HIS methodology to fit the newer iTunes/blog/download crazy culture that is happening now – I see a bit of Steve in Prince, and so I can't totally hate on the guy.

    THAT SAID! Peter, this is definitely the funniest post you've ever put up, I was cracking up and it's great to catch someone like Prince being HARUMPH! about the time a'changing and it was written perfectly – best post I've seen in a while :)

    Cheers guys, sorry for the length and late-to-the-convo-ness

  • bliss

    Well, if by "numbers" Prince meant computers enabling bean counters to create ever more opaque accounting schemes for the entertainment industry, the health industry, the military industrial complex, and the financial sector; plus physicists with the ability to write micro-trading algorithms that in turn enables Wall Street hedge funds and investment banks to fleece all persons, including their own clients, plus other equally nefarious pursuits… then, as PK said, it was a brilliant statement.

    Sociopaths armed with numbers… well, you figure it out.

    So, I take it back, Prince wasn't being silly. Just being the genius that he is. And it took me a day to catch up to his thought process. With a little help from PK, of course.

  • bliss

    Anyway, Ryuichi Sakamoto says that we're slave to numbers. With that kind of backup, Prince has nothing to worry about. ;-)

    We are slaves to numbers / Ryuichi Sakamoto & JazzMutant

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  • http://www.themusicvoid.com The Music Void

    Whether Prince is right or wrong, one must acquiesce in the fact that his ability to operate from without the conceptual box, free from the constraints of industry dogmatism and at times, perhaps reason, is what has kept his career alive..

    http://www.themusicvoid.com/2010/07/prince-and-th

  • http://priceton.com prince

    whatever this guy did, to me was ingenius and so lets let the guy be.