Many musicians and producers appear to be betting that the killer app for iPad will be Ableton Live. That is, they’re interested in controlling Ableton Live’s live performance engine, running on a full-featured Mac or PC, from the iPad as a touch control surface. Little wonder: the iPad, at US$500, has what’s likely the best multi-touch capacitive surface on the market for consumers, it’s portable, and its display can easily display whatever music parameters you want to control. With multitouch laptops and tablets still off in an undetermined future, the iPad can stand in for even affordable hardware MIDI controllers – and rests nicely next to controllers like velocity-sensitive keyboards and drum pads.

We already got the first look at Griid, a dedicated clip launching app which just made it to the App Store. But this week, Sylvain Garcia of Perpignan, France and his Berlin-based partner Christian Blomert unveil their own offering. It’s been submitted to Apple’s iTunes App Store, where it’s awaiting approval.

The just-released Griid does clip launching, and is promised as the first of a series of apps. But touchAble is an all-in-one solution, with a range of surprisingly-sophisticated-looking control pages. There’s a clip launcher, of course, but also a complete mixer, a devices page that intelligently maps to native Ableton Devices, clip functions, and transport.

The iPad makes a nice companion to other inputs, but if you do want to play instruments on this surface, it’s at least possible. There’s a unique two-register keyboard and MPC-style drum pads, each with velocity range assignments. (The iPad isn’t really velocity-sensitive in any usable way, so instead velocity is mapped to where you tap your fingers on the pads or keys.)

More details, videos, and screenshots follow…

Sylvain writes, “I’m an hardcore user of Live, using this software for production, performance, editing, and experimentation since version 2, so we’ve been focusing on a total LiveAPI’s integration (which actually doesn’t cover the arrangement view).”

He and his partner plan an insanely ambitious development process, with lots of plans for templates and MIDI tools and updates every ten days.

This could be the Ableton controller to beat. I do wonder what else may be next, both in terms of controllers for apps (generic or specific), competitive tablets (though that’s likely much further out, as we wait for someone to get their multitouch digitizer right), and “native” apps (software that makes the iPad an instrument, not just a controller). Stay tuned.

Developer site:
http://www.touch-able.com/Site/touchable.html

  • http://google.com ikdash

    fed up

    Gasp! Wow! Zomg!

    ahem…

    Got really tired of being shown apps “under-construction”. Do you remember the feeling when you stumbled across an under-construction webpage in early 00s? I still get this feeling when browsing the forthcoming “ipad-midi-apps-that-will-be-awesome”.

    Too much hype for getting merely screenshots.

    To quote a few:

    midipad

    mixr

    griid

    what’s next?

  • http://www.nk-e.com nk:e

    Wow. It was obvious to me that the iPad was going to displace the Lemur in a very short time (IMHO the price-performance differential between the two is way in iPad's favor), but it had not occurred to me that it would also potentially impact things like the APC40/20 and the Launchpad. (Just slow I guess.)

    Why would I buy one of those now? The feel of the buttons? I suppose that's a loss, but the gain in flexibility, adaptability, and expandability far outweighs it (for me anyway).

    I just wish they'd slap a camera in it so I can go buy one. (That's a must have for me for skype/ichat.)

  • http://www.createdigitalmusic.com Peter Kirn

    @ikdash – Griid is on the app store right now, touchAble is awaiting approval (so guessing about next week). Midipad I covered early in the iPad days when everything was sort of up in the air. But yes, I hear you in that I think the developers aren't always coordinating their stuff with when it's available. It's something to think about.

  • Priscilla

    i wish the interface was slightly better designed. More like live's interface. this one seems all over the place with color.

    besides that it looks amazing.

  • Mike

    If the Ableton Device integration is superior to Mu for the Lemur then Jazzmutant will be getting a letter from me shaming them into cave! The benefits of this are numerous when compared to my Lemur for portable Ableton control.

    It's starting to look like the Lemur will become the dedicated video and lighting controller…..

  • http://www.ilektron.com Mudo

    I droped it to you this morning at facebook!

    Cool to see that you was already working on it!

    :D

  • shim

    hmmmm looks pretty cool i guess.

    maybe it's just me but this is a very left-brain approach to composition and control. and all so dainty. and all that endless scrolling and memorization. this would be much more interesting if the ipad was 4x the size.

    plus how much sweat can a ipad really take? not much i'll wager. so the stage is out.

    i like blinky lights and pretty colors as much as anybody but making music on the starship enterprise seems super weak.

  • http://le-k.org Le K

    @ikdash

    it is for real , sent to approval yesterday….

  • experimentaldog

    Bare in mind the Lemur wasn't made just for Mu and controlling Ableton Live. I still see it as a massively explorative musical device. I'm not sure why so many want to claim that it's on the outs or dead. @PeterK explained it better earlier this year when the 1st iPad popped up. I've been making many custom controllers and OSC instruments on the Lemur and couldn't be happier. Now relative to this discussion, if I didn't want to use Mu as an Ableton controller and opted to control using touchAble along side with MaxforLive, the Lemur and my monome, this will still allow me to dig deeper into controlling and creating in new ways that interest me. The one fact that I think most people forget is, it's what is coming out those speakers that matters. How you achieve the sound is up to you. Sure the aesthetic appeal of touch screen is there, but most of the audience will still be none the wiser as to how you do it. When it comes to launching clips and controlling Live, the choice of tools has greatly improved over the years, so choose what will allow you to be creative and have fun. It's very easy to get caught up in gear fads. Touch screen controlling will be yesterday's news pretty soon. In my opinion, being creative, having the tool flexibility to be creative and achieving an amazingly different sound are more important than worrying about who has the better controller of Live. Besides, this page is called (Create) Digital Music is it not?

  • http://www.createdigitalmusic.com Peter Kirn

    @experimentaldog: Right, it's a huge win for OSC, for open networking protocols in general. And smart developers, even working with the native tools, will build their code in such a way that they can take it wherever they need.

    In fact, I feel like apps like this could be even better if the Live API were better supported and documented, and more open. I can't think of a better business case than these couple of iPad apps – these are independent developers who are, in turn, making a great sales pitch for Ableton's product.

    Now, that said, subtract the iPad "fad" and you still have the cheapest, most accurate portable resistive touchscreen on the market at the moment — and it's a computing platform, if not as open as we'd like. What I'd love to see next is a WebKit-powered controller, because then you could program the thing with JavaScript, and port it to other platforms as they become available (like Android, for instance, or even prototyping in your desktop browser). There's already some work in this direction.

  • Oliver Sumpton

    Wholly CRAP. I think I wet myself a little when he showed the EQ interface.

    Can't wait to check it out.

    Note: till then it's LiveControl !! :D

  • Tabyo

    Meh, another Ableton controller. I want a live seq that spits midi out directly to a midi interface. Please, make me one.

  • griotspeak

    @tabyo – easily done if you adapt some of the monome work. i even provided a function list for clipstep that no one has taken advantage of.

  • http://music-interface.com mat

    @ Taybo and griotspeak

    Well, I am not so sure if that is so easy – a trustable stepsequencer on the Ipad (at least if it got some more functions than step on and off)

    Because as far as I heared, the bi-directional communication is not so fast on an Ipad. A friend of mine measured delays of up to 100msec on a simple ping. For cliplaunching, this is not so bad…but for realtimesequencing…

    From the touch-able.com website:

    "perform live from anywhere within Wi-Fi range while keeping latency at a minimum."

    Hmmm…so Peter, when will we hear any details on Ipad latency?

    PS: I know the latency problem from my own Max-lemur sequencers. got 2-4 msec. yuppp, Lemur is fast ;)

  • http://www.createdigitalmusic.com Peter Kirn

    @mat: Latency — good question, indeed. And I don't know how much latency the processing of the capacitive screen digitizer is even adding, once it gets routed through the OS. Once you get past that, aside from the Lemur winning out, Ethernet hardwires could remain a big part of people's solution.

    Someone want to test iPad latency?

  • lematt

    i'm gone all analog.

    those iphone and ipad interfaces are disgusting me.

    i come from piano, not from a grid based and button pushing background, + you don't even have the feel of real knobs or buttons !

    i've been initially really interested into touchOsc on iphone, and tried it a while ago, but seriously, i prefer my MPD 24 !

  • http://www.jorgebarrientos.com Jorge from Madrid

    @shim

    "i like blinky lights and pretty colors as much as anybody but…" :)

    Yes! Totally agree. It's cool to see 4 sends and 36 tracks and tons of EQ but… I always try to manage my projects since my tracker days I'm very sparse with track usage… just 4 to 8, believe it or not. Nothing againts the Lemuresque feel, but.. do we all need Lemurs to make music? even to control Live? The amazing Kid Beyond uses a foot guitar controller and a mic and he's still inspiring many with his style.

    It really feels like we should be sort of ashamed for STILL using the computer screen (remember, this is 2010… it's the future!).

    Nonetheless, the app seems solid and clever. I'm not interested in the iPad, but kudos to the developers out there.

    @ experimentaldog

    Whoa… seems to me that I have to trash my brand new Launchpad because isn't trendy anymore… just kidding!

    I totally agree with your "gear fad" point of view… remember those infrared J.M.Jarre's Laser Arp kinda thing on Roland's Grooveboxes? That was the future!

    @ Peter

    I think it's OK to cover the whole iPad fever, and it clearly has an user(fan?)base. I see it as a valid alternative to the Lemur.

    My only point here, Peter, is that maybe we are paying too much attention to a GENERAL PURPOSE device that tries to be "everything to everyone" (it's a Wacom Cintiq emulator for others, or a eBook reader).

    Maybe when tablets/slates become as popular and cheap as netbooks, the whole thing becomes more interesting, but today we have to remember that having one of those running costs the iPad plus the App… more expensive than an APC40. Anyway, there's the iPhone/iTouch version. And anyone can argue that modular synths are way more expensive and elitist that iPads. I'm just asking for more stories about cheap computer programs, not cheap apps.

    Hey! And what about hardware sequencers? Is there anything beyong those Yamaha QY100s out there to make a whole song, not just (real funny and straightforward) pattern step sequencers?

  • http://www.createdigitalmusic.com Peter Kirn

    @Jorge: Some valid points, but I'm not sure with whom or what you're actually arguing. This is one choice among many choices. The word "need" isn't associated with anything I've ever covered, ever. The only thing you need is your voice or something to hit, and you can make music. I've even pointed out that you don't "need" any of this myself.

    The advantage of having a site that publishes hundreds of stories each year is that I'll come round to other stuff. ;)

    That said, I'm the first to admit that $530, even in 2010, isn't a whole lot for a multi-page control surface. And if being multi-functional were a bad thing, I wouldn't be able to cover computers.

    Does anyone remember the early Digidesign automated control surfaces? Now, there was a nice, five-figure beast to drop on your desk. ;)

  • veta

    going to echo some of the other commenters here: i am soooooo tired of hearing about ABLETON LIVE! am i the ONLY person in the known universe that does not use this program? seems Live users are spoiled for choice when it comes to controllers… what about us poor souls that actually use HARDWARE? where are all the full-featured iPad MIDI controllers already??!

    i reallllllly want to use a touchscreen device and if you use Live then you have all these Lemur/iPad/TouchOSC blah blah blah…. many options available. but good old MIDI? still nothing.

  • http://www.createdigitalmusic.com Peter Kirn

    @veta: Well, I hear your frustration. Here are the reasons, which I'll enumerate here as they may later be a blog post but I'm curious to get other feedback –

    1. Apple has at least partially restricted the creation of third-party hardware for the iPad. (See me ranting and raving earlier on this year, and iPad apologists calling me nuts.) Some of this is a remnant of their accessory policy, perhaps, part of it is simply the fact that it's a new platform and some stuff we take for granted on desktop isn't there (and some stuff may never be there). It is possible to make a MIDI interface, as Line6 did with MIDI Mobilizer, though that is iPhone/iPod touch – don't know the status of that showing up on iPad. And there's the iConnectMIDI thing, but I haven't seen that materialize.

    2. Ableton Live is generating a disproportionate interest in developers likely because of what they use — and because a lot of other software hasn't focused on live performance paradigms.

    3. The lack of bi-directional, descriptive information in the MIDI spec, and standards for interoperating with software, has meant that MIDI communication with software packages has often been accomplished piecemeal. In other words, for a dev team of two people (as here), you're probably going to solve interoperability one platform at a time. OSC holds some potential as an alternative for these sorts of applications (even with other hardware), but there's just a lot of work left to do all around.

    The problem is, I don't always make the news. Sometimes I just report it.

    By the way, MIDI on Android is something a lot of us would like to see, but there are parallel issues. If you want to do hard-line MIDI, right now for support across all devices you have to hack the device, which isn't something everyone may want to do.

    I do see your point, though, and it seems like Bluetooth MIDI may be the short-term solution, because it's easy enough to do. I know that's possible via Android, not sure on iOS.

  • http://institutfatima.org pepezabala

    I would really love to see more examples of people playing live on those ipodpad-surfaces. Up until now I see a lot of screenshots etc. but not so many vids of people using it live for making awesome music. OK, some of that stuff isn't even available on the market, but then again it often looks like stuff that is nice to watch, but I still wonder why they don't have videos of someone making really awesome music with it. or something impressing. It's more like: "Look, I can turn the send knob here" while some really bad music plays.

    Don't get me wrong here, I love to read CDM-stories on new gadgets and programs every day, but I love it even more if the gadgets are being used in a convincing way. and lots of that ipadpodstuff uses really poor music for their videos.

  • http://m127.com m127

    @veta: I hear you, and I agree to some extend, but what we are seeing is not out of luck or some sort of able-sorcery-ton… The fact is that they have been working a lot on interoperability with other players (of all sizes, from "some guy" in his home bunker to the likes of AKAI and Novation) in the market. They keep opening further and further while others keep shrinking their doors. If you remember, Cubase was the Live of the nineties… Everybody wanted to collab with them to produce hands-on solutions. Steinberg, however, didn't keep it up… now many users acuse them of arrogance and disrespect as customers, and so they keep leaving for other hosts. You can't invent VST and sit on it forever. Ableton, on the other hand, developed a workflow that now everyone wants to part-take in. And quite clearly, they are not sitting on it. They are collecting partnerships from all over and whoever will be willing to work as a team… That is the difference… Hence my reply to you: You are only seeing the result of Ableton's openness…

    OSC, for example, is a protocol that should have been implemented into Cubase years ago. Now DP won that race too (btw, only after Live had integrated Max).

    Another example? Sure. Take Cubase's MediaBay for instance. Nice idea, lots of problems (bugs), and on top of that it is NOT compatible with anything NON-STEINBERG, ie, you can't drop samples on VSTis that support explorer/finder drag and drop, ie, closeness.

    Cool Steinberg's partnerships? Gone. Wizoo and it's discontinued synths anyone? Only Yamaha remains… I guess because they own it.

    Anyway, everybody knows that MIDI is an outdated technology. Still useful, yes, but at the price of a lot of technical limitations as compared to OSC.

    My guess is that there are still lots of big bucks involved regarding MIDI (supported by dinosaurs like Roland, Yamaha [what a coincidence], etc.) I can't find another rational explanation.

    So, that is why I got Live early this year. :)

  • Josh

    iPad is showing average of 70 msec pings when idle (anywhere from 13 msec to 182 msec).

    I've had no trouble using the sequencer in LiveControl while clips were playing in ableton.

    also @veta you might look into running TouchOSC through OSCulator, but I'm not sure it can actually transmit MIDI signals from the laptop to the hardware. It'd be better if you could connect the iPad straight to the MIDI device, but this might work too.

  • Jonathan boil

    @pepezabala

    " but not so many vids of people using it live for making awesome music. OK, some of that stuff isn’t even available on the market, but then again it often looks like stuff that is nice to watch, but I still wonder why they don’t have videos of someone making really awesome music with it. or something impressing. It’s more like: “Look, I can turn the send knob here” while some really bad music plays."

    Well, the guy on a video is making a descent kind of track, almost from scratch, building a good beat, then some chords, etc… As a 3 minutes demo…pretty cool

  • http://music-interface.com mat

    @ Josh

    thanks for the info on Ipads latency!

    between 13ms and 182 means there is a variation in it… and thats even harder (linear shifts are easier to compensate) To me, this is a no go. Would you except such latency on your audiocard?

    I do not blame the Ipad. It was never ment for 2-way communication.

    Furthermore I think to pull the triggerpoints from Ipad to your DAW this isn´t so critical (as long as the triggering is done in the DAW or a maxapplication), but the problem is the visual feedback. The sequencer in livecontrol (which seems to be really a great app!) is very simple. It got only 1 LED row reflecting playback position. But my SequencomatV3 for instance has independent tracks, therefore independent timing and feedback. At least it handles 1000values in realtime sending forth and back each pattern…that wouldn´t work on an Ipad if a simple ping has already this latency.

    @pepezabala

    Well, don´t be hard to the developers. It took a long time to do those things and if you finally have a running version you want to demonstrate you have lost your connection in making music…. same with my demovideos ;)

    @veta

    if you search for a touchscreen that sends midi, take a Lemur. That MU (which was reported the last time) is only 1 app on the Lemur. My sequencers send Midi directly….in combination or without any DAW (see daniels video on my page)

    whooo….long post. Nice discussion here :)

  • http://www.institutfatima.org pepezabala

    @ mat and jonathan: You are right, the developers should show what their tool is able to do and can't be expected to show off a great musicians. And the video for above app isn't that bad actually. But still I would love to see some greatness being produced with all of those tools. If you have seen Daedelus rock off with his monome then you know what I mean.

  • http://www.createdigitalmusic.com Peter Kirn

    @pepezabala: Yep, but that takes practice. So it could take some time.

    So, that wireless performance number says it all — it's not very good. Timing jitter sounds like it could be a big issue.

    I'm actually under the impression that Bluetooth can fair better, so time for some tests, at least on Android.

    On the other hand, my guess is that many people will use the iPad for things that aren't totally timing critical. So, to look at it in the reverse, if you've got a MIDI 4×4 drum pad, that's great, but managing all your clips, devices, effects, and such can be a challenge.

  • http://www.soundcloud.com/insilicolive insilico

    wow this makes want me go out and get an ipad tmrw, would be perfect to control my live sets. seems like such as easier option than what i originally planned over a year ago – to custom build a 20" LCD Laser Light Plane Multitouch screen with a custom designed interface made with touch designer or Max or something…

    a project which will probably be put on hold indefinitely now that i've seen this!

  • http://julienbayle.net/ julien

    congratulations Christian :)

  • Ulhuru

    Sorry to skip one level of technological enjoyment, I love my Lemur and iPad remote stuff looks good so far, besides my concerns towards network lag & wifi reliability in Live shows, but: knowing that I must be using about 20% processor of my Core 2 Duo for running Live, or Reaktor, live,

    My wish goes more towards IOS AND touchscreen ready "light" versions of Live, or Reaktor, that would run natively on an iPad. THAT would be cool. So as to, at last, have my hands, my eyes and my brain concentrating on one physical location.

    And Something tells me that if I have thought of that, some dudes in Berlin may perhaps have done so too…

  • Armando

    so still no output directly to the computer via usb? bypass all this wifi/latency business? Even on a hacked ipad?

  • http://www.createdigitalmusic.com Peter Kirn

    It's not a matter of hacking; you have to have an actual driver of some sort. :)

  • http://le-k.org Le K

    @pepezabala

    I wish I could have more time to practice but the making of touchAble didn't let me play and enjoy it as i use to practice with my others instruments, that means, several hours by day :) Cause, actually, touchAble is such an instrument, you need time to develop skills with its.

    About latency:

    Frankly, as a musician since barely 20 years, playing guitar and electronic music, i haven't felt any kind of latency using touchAble with Ad hoc network. Ask me about latency feeling with midi guitar, i'll tell you : yes.

    Faders, metering, keys and pad, they all run smoothly.

    And you know what: I'm not going to play a Rachmaninov piano piece with touchAble. If I had skills for that, I'd use a pleyel piano!

    About wifi/USB :

    of course USB would be better, as a performer I can't say the opposite, playing at 4 am in a underground / batcave club…I know what I'm talking about. But anyway, i ve been using my iphone on stage since 1 year (with touchOSC), and Ive never had a wifi latency issue .But Apple doesn't allow using this damn USB dock connector, what can we do….?

    Actually we are thinking about something, but need time for that…

  • http://www.touch-able.com Christian Blomert

    USB Support is very likely to be added in the first update after release.

    Unfortunately you will have to either be subscribed to an official tethering data plan – or jailbreak your iPad and install MyWi 4.0 (available on Cydia at 19,99)

    This will enable a USB connection between touchAble and the host computer with latency at a stable 0.7ms for a roundtrip.

    Another note about the WiFi-latency tests:

    The tests made from a terminal running on your computer only relate to feedback from the computer to touchAble – some of the latency is added because the iPad is in a rested state in this situation and does other things than respond to a ping -> making it jump between 1.7 and 150ms. As soon as you move a fader in touchAble – and therefore put it in an active state – the ping stays as low as 1.5-2ms.

    This means: If you initiate a command from within touchAble it will be sent and received with very low latencys.

    Hope this clears a few questions around the Wifi and no usb problems ;-)

  • braindub

    So I gave it a try! Maybe I did not read the entire guide or haven't found the info on the web, but, please correct if I am wrong, Griid is only intended to control clips, no more??!!

    I am a bit surprise and actually disappointed… I have been using 'LiveControl' and still found it very powerful for all my needs with Live during a performance.

    Griid is certainly good when you have thousands of clips within one Live set (not my case, I got thousands of stuffs but it fall down into drum racks, chain of effects…).

    At least I was expected a kind of mixer and control for rack devices.

    Recently during a 2 hours set I tested: TraktorPro + BCD3000 + iphone (custom touchOSC template for loops and effect control on TraktorPro) and AbletonLive + ipad liveControl.

    It was perfect, stable, handy and easy to go. I didn't feel any issue with latency but I am aware of it…

    Also, as this discussion is focusing on Live and ip*** device, after availability of Max4Live, I created a patch and a custom touchOSC template to get control on two 'Loop' device in Live. It has been a chance to learn more about the LiveAPI object. When I discovered 'LiveControl', it was a shock. It would have certainly take me months to get half of the functions but most important the performances would not have been as good as with Python script for Control Surface. Does it sound obvious?

    In conclusion, I remains curious about 'Griid' but for me 'LiveControl' remains the best remote control for Live with an ipad.

  • Martin

    > Braindub

    This article is not about Griid, but about "touchAble" though I can see how you might be confused if you just skimmed it 'cos as far as I can see there is a hotlink to Griid related articles, but no hotlink to the touch-able website …though it is in the vid … Yo Peter !

    >Veta & others

    I think that there is more iPad/iPhone/Touchy-anythimg development for Live than for other sequencers because what these touch surfaces are good for simply corresponds more to a Live users mentality than a more trad sequencers mentality .. I'm not arguing that you can't make realtime tweaky improv based music with other programs because of course you can, but, though it is of course am oversimplification, if what you get off on is tweaking multiple parameters of softsynths while improvising an arrangement on the fly, something which an iPad (or indeed a lemur) etc is rather well adapted to, then there is a fair chance you might be using Live, wheras a typical (oversimpliflication again, I know and acknowledge) Pro Tools user might be less interested in this and be more obsessive about something like a longthrow fader mixing console, which is somethimg that neither the iPad or IMHO a Lemur do anywhere near as well as a real physical one … Though they may well have an interest in something that just pilots the PT transport from a distance …which is why that exists for iPhone etc …

  • Martin

    >Monsieur Le K

    Could you tell us how much this is going to cost ?

    -if you have submitted to the App store already, I assume that this has been decided …

  • http://www.createdigitalmusic.com Peter Kirn
  • Christian Blomert

    @Martin

    Price will be 13,99€. If i remember it correctly that is 16,99$ / 9,99£.

  • Martin

    > Christian

    Thanks, and a very reasonable price it is too, I for one will be on it as soon as it hits …

    But at risk of going wildly off topic, is there any reason for all this .99 nonsense ? Do Apple enforce some sort of profit maximising price trickery or is that your idea ? I'm not having a go at you, you can sell it for 9999999999.99 if you want, its just that I would actually prefer to pay 14 euros … If only to simplify the maths on my tax return ;-)

    Anyway, looking forward to this with much anticipation …for me the most important thing is controlling multiple plug parameters at once … As I understand it this is for the moment just for Live Native plugs right ? Is an APC style control of in focus VST/AU in the works ? The ideal thing of course would be that the in focus plug in interface magically jumps to the iPad as in Spectrasonics Omnisphere thing … Just out of interest, Is a "general purpose" version of that even theoretically possible with the present Ableton implementation ?

  • HEXnibble

    @Ulhuru: "My wish goes more towards IOS AND touchscreen ready “light” versions of Live"

    You should check out the latest version of Electrify. It's basically Live's session view optimized for mulititouch control.

  • http://www.carstensorensen.com Carsten Sorensen

    Greatidea and great design…. however having extensively tested it, I am sorry to say that it crashes constantly on my iPad, which will be exactly the same as any other iPad, so not good enough yet. Forget it for live work

  • http://www.gigacrate.com NickNack

    This app looks promising. I too wish the UI was a bit more simple (like Ableton). Seems to be an overuse of colors which could be confusing when on stage. Some of the buttons look really small too. I guess we'll see how usable it is when it hits the App Store here shortly. Looking forward to checking this out. $17 seems like a fair price assuming it's not too buggy and you get updates.

  • Le K

    @martin

    Obviously we would rather 14€ than13.99, but as you can guess it, we are not allowed to choose:(

    About vst/au: of course you can control multiple parameters of vst/au!

    You ll have choice between 8 parameters control (fx8), or 32 (fx32) at once and up to 128 available with banks selectors buttons :) And with the new plugins configure function in live 8, organise them as you want.

    @NickNack

    Don't be afraid buy the interface, you ll see that it is extremly frienduser, built for fast access to functions and maximum visiblity, ipad is small surface, we managed it .

    About bugs: we spent hundred of hours betatesting the app, tweaking and tweaking the code to get its maximum, if you find a bug when you ll use touchAble, please let us know! But frankly, the app runs smoothly and doesn't crash, even running kind of massive liveset. One more time, we ll be here if you find something :)

    Features overview video is coming, it will be easier for you guys to get an idea.

  • http://enigmafon.com enigmafon

    Last month, i blogged about how the iPad is going to be the OSC & MIDI controller killer.

    It is a matter of time before most musicians will be using Jazz-mutant-Lemur-like customized interfaces to control their favorite VSTs, sequencers and DAWs.

    More info here:
    http://enigmafon.com/2010/07/12/ipad-the-midi-osc

  • http://Www.travisbedel.com Travis

    Nice concept. But to me using that would be like using someone elses template. I prefer the customization with touch osc because no 2 musicians are the same.

  • HEXnibble

    @Travis: The point of LiveControl and touchAble is that they offer bi-directional instant mapping complete control of Live. That doesn't exclude the use of TouchOSC for manual templates for other stuff.

  • http://le-k.org Le K

    new 7 minutes video "features overview"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELivdvySUm0

    enjoy it :)

  • http://Www.travisbedel.com Travis

    @hexnibble: Thanks for the clarification. I can see the benefits of using both this and touch OSC in a set now.

  • http://le-k.org Le K

    @ HEXnibble

    totally agree, touchOSC still rocks hard :)

  • holotropik

    I will def be giving this a go…would make a great companion to my Zero8 mixer with Ableton :)

  • http://www.touch-able.com Le K

    touchAble is out on the App store, enjoy it :)