For years, since the launch of Ableton Live, many have waited for a worthy rival, something that combines production and live performance for music users. Live isn’t without alternatives – Renoise, for instance, has earned some fans, though it isn’t necessarily built for live performance. But few provide the same real-time workflows.

Bitwig, based in Berlin as is Ableton and featuring some Abletronic veterans, today took the wraps off its own Bitwig Studio. The good news is, it’s looking as though it might shape up to be a viable tool for DJing, performing, and making music. The bad news is, in a market already crowded with lots of similar tools vying for your attention, the first release will look more familiar than radical. That is, it looks and works a whole lot like Live. There’s an Arranger view, a clip launching view with scenes, a tray on the bottom with effects and instruments (they’re even called Devices, like in Live). The screen layout, and even specific interface widgets and channel strip arrangements are all straight out of Live.

It’s not just a little like Ableton Live, either – it’s in some cases a direct clone. Nested drum machine Devices, for instance, work in a way that I’ve never seen out of Ableton Live. A channel strip similarity or two is almost inevitable; here, though, lots of little details add up to something that feels like Ableton, but didn’t come from Ableton.

What that means to you may depend on what you want: whether you just want an improved Ableton alternative that works like Live, or whether you want something more fundamentally different from Live as an alternative.

If you want “Ableton Plus,” Bitwig does take on features Ableton is missing. For instance:

1. Linux support. In fact, right out of the gate, this could quickly be the answer for Linux users waiting for something they could use without booting to Mac or Windows.
2. Proper multiple document support. You can share content between projects in Ableton, but here you can actually open and freely exchange media with multiple files at once.
3. Mix audio and MIDI on the same track. Tracks are content-agnostic.
4. Per-note automation, with the mixed MIDI and audio, promises more detail-oriented editing.

Those are three significant breakthroughs. And it looks like there are lots of tweaks and improvements throughout the tool, many of which I’m sure we’ll hear about as people begin testing the beta. (One nice example: a vertical pane lets you view arrange and clip launching views simultaneously.) Multi-monitor support, while present in many tools, is sorely lacking in Live but available here. Plus, as some readers note, you do get 64-bit support, though that seems an advantage over Ableton that won’t last long.

The challenge is, as a new entrant to the market, your first obstacle is telling a story about what you are. And here, there seems a missed opportunity to make a first impression as something truly different, rather than something “similar, but better.” Ableton Live 1.0 when it was released was a significant departure from what had been seen before. So, too, were the first trackers, the first audio+MIDI DAWs, and the first graphical sequencers. Bitwig Studio isn’t that kind of breakthrough – not yet.

Not that being different is easy, or even always desirable. Amidst so many things users want, and so many expectations they have about how things will work, it’s tough to do something genuinely new without simply confusing everyone and driving them away. But it has happened – Ableton Live’s original release being a notable case. One question is whether you make some sacrifices to release the most significantly-different tools initially, or whether you choose to cover the basic bases to provide a workable solution from day one, and the Bitwig devs seem to have chosen the latter.

The most interesting features remain on the horizon. LAN multi-user jamming and multi-user production are both on the roadmap – features we’ve seen in other tools, but which have yet to catch on. And there’s an integrated modular system that lets you build your own instruments and effects with graphical patching – something seen in various forms from Buzz to Max for Live, but one that could use a fresh take in integration with the tool.

In the meantime, we’ll have to hear from beta users whether Bitwig is something worth a look. You can sign up now:
http://bitwig.com/bitwig_studio.php

We’ll be eager to hear what you think.

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Fresh off a Netflix bender, anyone remember the last scene in the last episode of Twinpeaks where Agent Cooper finishes the series with "How's Annie? How's Annie?! How's Annie!"

So, how's Bitwig?

Seriously though, has anyone seen it yet or is it just vaporware so far?

Clip style sequencing was nothing new with Ableton. It's a method that has been used with computer sequencers going back to the mid eighties. What Ableton did that was novel was the audio stretching, but that's old hat now

I wonder how Bitwig will manage state between the clip launcher and arrange views. In Live you can mess around in session view and then you have only 2 options: save all or nuke all. A long time feature request has been per track reversion in session view.

You're move, Ableton.

Theses guys are in berlin and some of them used to work for Ableton so they must have remained in contact with them. I'm pretty guys over at Ableton have seen this before. Ableton have a strong following and like somebody pointed out in this thread, I doubt people will all jump ship. I'm certainly interested in trying Bitwig out. All of the feature mentioned in this thread are certainly motivational points.

I'm also looking forward to see what can be built with the modular system. The picture of their website seems to be the polysynth. And I think I read that all the onboard devices are built with the modular system so they are essentially modifiable.

Ableton live does need a competitor even though this one has features that are cloned from it. I'm sure though that Bitwig like grow into something different than an Ableton clone.

Flow has been in for the last week here. Smashing out beats on my own again. Bitch is touchy as!

Bit-wig! Like just wait till I pull it off my head, hey it's me!!!

The placing of the clip browser on the right instead of the left, its just so cynical its embarrassing. Bet there is even a parameter to set it back to the left in the settings, just that they didn't have the balls to show it in the preliminary screen shots. I'd bet $100 on that...

Wait till Native Instruments release their Ableton clone, Flow, should be out soon...

That'ss a marketing gag. In fact it's the brand new Live 9.

i think so, to much similarities, and the web site, typos/music and demo video are soooo ableton

How is this NOT copyright infringement? This is a lot more than a tiny similarity (which court cases have been based off of in the past...). Oh wait, they moved the scene launch and the browser to the opposite siiiides!!! Ahhh yes.. totally different. Nevermind. 

"Having to operate a pointer/mouse/finger across the screen to the left to perform functions which effect the content interrupts the brain/body/ear connection and is a creative hinderance."

got any science to back this up? couldn't disagree more. maybe just cuz i'm left-handed! ;P

and special pricing for ableton owners!

whoa! this is looking like EVERYTHING i wanted from ableton: the GUI is hot (take that live!), the mixer on the left and the browser on the right?! ...potentially a more human workflow...YEAH!

IF this thing sounds as good as live, crashes less, they have solid support and the native FX are at least as good (PLEASE bitwig more 'analog' sounds but probably asking too much) i will gladly jump ship. make that ECSTATICALLY jump ship.

live has just burned me too many times.

Linux, Linear Matrix-esque clip launching, 64 bit!  You have my attention!

Some of these features (especially "Instrument Tracks") are such basics that Ableton should have conquered by now I can't help but applaud Bitwig!

As a long time Ableton user (since Version 2) and a current Suite 8 owner, as well as Logic, Studio One, Reason 6, and Reaper... this looks to be the Live solution I might be willing to use in the studio as well.  Love Ableton, but their sound engine is dated compared to some of the others and with their extremely limited VST routing and CPU loving Partner Instruments/Rack effects, it has been harder and harder to want to keep embracing this lovely buggy tool.

The clincher will be controller support... if Bitwig nails this like Ableton did, this will give Ableton a run for their money.  I love competition.  If Ableton 9 does not appear at Namm (with at a minium some of the same new features), more power to Bitwig.  Especially if some of their Devs were former Ableton programmers fed up with the lack of forward motion.

My 2 cents:b

That quad instrument looks sweet.

All we need now to complete the half assed-ness is the BT, sorry it's 2012, the Richie Hawtin product endorsement! 

Half assed is creating a clone of Ableton ;)

@s ford "Bloated and Buggy"?

As someone who does everything except final mastering and editing in Live, I've not had any substantial problems in Live.  The new features in 8 versus 7 are all useful to me.  The only crashes I've had came from squirrelly Max For Live patches.  

I'm curious what un-corrected bugs you've run into and what you consider to be bloat.  I mean I'm sincerely interested, not arguing that that they don't exist.

@mike - I think things will become clearer when Live 9 comes. Maybe the Bitwig guys left because Ableton were taking things in a direction they weren't interested in? Maybe Live 9 will be completely different to 8? We don't know.

If Live 9 surprises everyone as a complete Final Cut X style re-write, I presume all the currently kneejerking Ableton fans will suddenly be very grateful that Bitwig have made their DAW so (superficially) familiar to current Live users.

Also, Bitwig's DAW isn't out yet, so how can you describe it as half-assed? One obvious counter to that - they've developed proprietary timestretch technology, which doesn't sound like a particularly half-assed way to spend your time to me. It might be awful, it might be brilliant... but we don't know that yet.

And there's more to this than just hoping to grab a small share of Live's "nerd user base". What about people buying a DAW for the first time? Or people (like me) who use one DAW but are looking for another to use live? Pricing and stability and the quality of the bundled instruments and effects will affect those sorts of decisions, of course. So again... more stuff we don't know about yet.

Point also to note, is that very little thought in any of this was given to artists/musicians. Releasing a clone of Ableton rather than staying on and working to make it better, show to me pure self serving attitude.

that assumes Management would ever allow this

Think you might be on to something Ben, it is speculation but it looks like guy arrives fresh from Surge, coaxes out developers tired of legacy code prior to Live 8 release, Ableton caught out and release buggy version then go on frantic search for replacements....developers release half assed clone. Where to next? Ableton buys Bitwig, sends the Surge guy away with a big pay check and develops Bitwig into a new Live rewrite, cause that is all it is reality. The other option is that Ableton ignore Bitwig, watch it take a small share of its nerd user base that actually cares about the some of the features mentioned as points of difference and in 2-3 years they go under.

If  

Bitwig was formed 1 month after Live 8 was launched and it's at least 3 ex Ableton developers. Could they be part of the reason for the somewhat rocky start of Live 8 when it launched? I mean clearly you know that you are leaving to start a competing product. 

If it has Traktor-style user-accessible controller mapping, and is priced somewhere between Logic and Live, I'm jumping on board.

I only got Live late last year to use for live gigs and was sorely disappointed with the mapping options.

I'm not sure what makes you think Ableton's lack of 64-bit "won't last long." It's gone on for nearly 3 years already... That's what pushed me to Cubase. If Bitwig offers Ableton-style workflow, but lets me use all 32 gigs of RAM, I'm on it. 

Eh. Initially these seemed pretty exciting. But after a few hours of staring at the screenshots I forgot what I was excited about. 
My initial thoughts: http://www.synnack.com/blog/post/48/bitwig-studio...

i really love ableton but i´m still angry about the online share feature they promised years ago and haven´t delivered yet. as far is know i paid for a feature they never rolled out and the beta has obviously died a silent death.

You can tell the true blind fan boys by those who hate a product they've never tried.  Anyone uphappy with competition does not understand the way of the world cause this is a great thing for live users.  If Bitwig had been around longer ableton could never have SCREWED US the way they did with live 8.

Way to go Bitwig... :)If Ableton can't hold the pressure, so be it...Will buy it the moment of release ;)BTW; when is the release...? Hope it's not vapourware...

Oh, if you do a whois search n Bitwig you will find them on the same street in Berlin, 650 meters away from Ableton HQ.

Has no-one had the thought that at a time when you would expect to hear news of Ableton 9, there is little news to be heard. Funny that this has all features requested most by Ableton users.

My money is that this is an elaborate hoax and Bitwig will turn out to be Live 9.

Its gotta be Ableton 9, it looks too similar not to be.

Missing some bezier curve for automation same as ableton

I guess for me it will be all about price. I still feel a little bit slighted by Ableton. A while back I sold operator (which I bought separately). I made a mistake of misreading the support email warning me that I will be selling my whole Ableton license. I thought it was simply a courtesy email stating that I will no longer own operator. As it turned out I sold Ableton for $99! I still can't understand why they would do this when I bought the plugin separately. Since then I have been happy using Renoise ($80 license!) and open source alternatives.  

I think it is a good sign that Bitwig is willing to follow Renoise and Ardour in allowing the software to run on Linux. Hopefully they will offer a similar price point to Renoise or Reaper. Smaller group of developers and smaller marketing means less bills to pay.  In my experience it is much more rewarding to support a smaller less corporate operation that is more dedicated to its user base. 

DUDE!!! Sorry to hear that brother.  Anyone that ableton ever screwed is going to jump on the BW wagon.  I'll reserve judgment after beta!

A little direct competition will not be a bad thing for the Ableton crew. When you have a " monopoly" on something (in this case the approach), there is a big danger that the focus goes from increased innovation to increased sales. (Why innovate when you'd just be competing with yourself?) At that point, innovators leave the company and the spark that made the original great is lost.

I think Ableton was flirting with that future for a while. Something like this may help them stay focused a bit better.

I've used Ableton Live since V1, but V8 has gone the way of Cubase; bloated and buggy.  I don't think Bitwig Studio promises a revolution but if they can manage to satisfy some aspects of the market which their competitors have failed in or do not meet then there is space for a new entrant in the market at least.  

Hopefully, when it comes to upgrades they'll take the route of Propellerhead (ie not charge a massive amount for updates of significance) opposed to the upgrade route of Ableton ie charging a more significant amount for a less vital update that is pretty much unusable in terms of stability.  These are my impressions however, and others may be completely different to mine... 

I welcome Bitwig and wish them good luck. 

I've had a demo of it, and to me it seemed like Cubase + Live. Or, Ableton Live, but with a really sophisticated next generation DAW enclosing the clip matrix.

it is true to say it is nothing revolutionary, but i think that in a quiet way it has many aspects that might make it the best choice by far for the electronic musician ( as opposed to DJ).

Multi. Monitor. Support. If it's even remotely like Ableton, I will switch for this reason alone.

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Ableton needs a good kick in the balls - and this just might do it. How anyone does any real editing in Ableton has got me mystified

Multiple audio events per clip is really nice.  As someone who like to chop audio, not always stretch, but still wants to use the session view, this is huge for me.  Multi document support is also very nice.  I'm a very long time Live user for the record.  This program looks very appealing to me.  Especially if it's cheap, I feel like Ableton is a little nuts with their pricing, though i suppose this will be in the same range most likely.

You had me at multi-monitor support!

Multi-monitor support this really more important then it sounds, also Per note automation is a big deal.

Looks cool, but I (and probably many others) will ask "why should I migrate to another DAW?" It seems that most of the features overlap with Live - and Live has active user base, thousands answers and solutions googleable, thousands and thousands existing projects, good chance that developer will exist in future... 
At a first glance it seems that Bitwig may compete with price - and that is not good way - but at a second glance it is obvious that Bitwig may offer lots of interesting stuff. 
Some Bitwig advantages may disappear soon - i guess that adding multi monitor support to Live is not much difficult (may be it is difficult but it is surely feasible). Also multi-document support seems to be something that Ableton guys could add (and i think that it is already possible - or maybe it is possible to have multiple instances of Live running at once). Some things may be harder achieve for Ableton - for example linux support. And there are some things that are cool and would not fit into Ableton paradigms - multiple audio events per clip for example (and this feature may be really great!). "Arranger clip launcher" seems to be sort of hybrid of Session and Arrangement views - that may be great thing too! 
So weĺl see...
And if Bitwig and/or Ableton developers read this... think about this: sometimes it would be nice, if launching audio clip would optionally generate MIDI event... it would be useful for syncing audio clips with visuals at the concert, and creative people would surely find many other interesting uses for this...

I'm at work, so I cannot test this, but, to fire off midi and audio at the same time, couldn't you group a midi and audio track? Kinda hackish if it works, but, better than nothing?