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		<title>Symphony I/O: Next-Gen Apogee High-end I/O, Works with Any Mac DAW Via USB</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looking for all the world like a high-end audiophile stereo radio receiver as much as pro audio equipment, the shiny, new Symphony I/O has arrived from Apogee. It&#8217;s a top-of-the-range audio interface designed for low latency, high-quality digital-to-analog conversion, and quality clocking, as well as flexible input and output, coming from a company known in &#8230; <a class="btn read-more" href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2010/07/symphony-io-next-gen-apogee-high-end-io-works-with-any-mac-daw-via-usb/">Continue &#8594;</a>]]></description>
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<p>Looking for all the world like a high-end audiophile stereo radio receiver as much as pro audio equipment, the shiny, new Symphony I/O has arrived from Apogee. It&#8217;s a top-of-the-range audio interface designed for low latency, high-quality digital-to-analog conversion, and quality clocking, as well as flexible input and output, coming from a company known in the category. With Pro Tools HD support, it&#8217;s also a rival to Avid&#8217;s own audio interfaces, while also working with all major Mac DAWs &#8211; even Ableton Live. You&#8217;re talking an investment of a few grand here, depending on configuration, so this isn&#8217;t likely to appeal to every bedroom producer. But pricing, starting at US$3690 with the I/O modules, also isn&#8217;t astronomical.</p>
<p>Another big highlight: Ethernet and USB releases planned for later in the fall mean the Symphony I/O is a viable alternative for mobile, laptop-based users, not just PCI as on Avid&#8217;s Pro Tools HD interfaces. That makes the Symphony interesting as a solution for the road. (The Symphony also works as a standalone converter, not just as an interface.)</p>
<p>Your best bet &#8211; check out the full specs from Apogee.<br />
<a href="http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/symphony-io.php">Symphony I/O</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m mostly ignorant of high-end audio boxes; I can speculate about them a bit as I would pro baseball. I <em>can</em>, say, however, that the trend in converter quality has absolutely been to greater quality for dramatically lower price. It&#8217;s also notable that configuring and using converters is much easier than it used to be. The Symphony I/O makes it easy to switch DAWs (though sadly only on Mac, not other OSes), and even plans 64-bit kernel support on Mac OS later this fall. It&#8217;s a far cry from the days in the 90s when you&#8217;d spend a couple of days mucking about with Mac classic drivers and expansion chassis just to get a Power Mac to do any audio recording at all. (I&#8217;m unfortunately more knowledgeable about that than I care to be; I&#8217;d like to leave that in the 90s with memories of the Lewinsky scandal.)</p>
<p>What I can offer is the first-hand thoughts of a very biased &#8211; but also very interesting &#8211; source. Kevin Vanwulpen is one of the engineers at Apogee, responsible for firmware, software, and digital engineering. He was excited enough about his baby that he wrote me an extended explanation of why it&#8217;s cool and why it matters. Note that this is <em>not</em> an official PR line (I&#8217;m sure PR&#8217;s not going to be terribly happy to see it &#8211; blame me, not Kevin, guys). And it should be taken with a grain of salt; this device is basically family to Kevin. But taken as such, I do enjoy hearing engineers talk about their creations, so here&#8217;s what Kevin has to say.</p>
<p>Executive summary of the highlights from Kevin:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>The converters sound a lot better.</strong></li>
<li><strong>&#8220;Modes&#8221; for working with a variety of DAWs makes switching Logic, Live, and Pro Tools far easier.</strong> (That&#8217;s not news for your basic audio interface, but it&#8217;s new to interfaces of this class.)</li>
<li><strong>Analog fans, this is DC capable.</strong> Route control voltage to your heart&#8217;s content.</li>
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<blockquote><p>the proverbial cat is out of the bag: SymphonyI/O is online. As usual, I won&#8217;t bore you with the stuff you might as well read on our website <img src='http://createdigitalmusic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8230;but I do want to highlight some other points about the product you may find of interest, which is one of the things I love about your blog.</p>
<p>Also note this was not written by marketing but by myself and thus there is some of my bias/opinion/whatever in there.<br />
Ok here it goes, in random order:</p>
<p>a. The sound&#8230;.yes I am sure marketing covers that, but I am sure it will take a little while before people &#8216;get it&#8217;.<br />
I do not have &#8216;golden ears&#8217; (but some who do agree)&#8230;I truly can not tell doing a blind test whether I am listening to the analog source or AD-DA. Don&#8217;t get me wrong the previous generation was great&#8230;but well this is truly a major step up, which I am excited about (I am not in the business of designing the same thing in a new jacket&#8230;and neither are some others here, including Lucas our analog wizard)</p>
<p>b. I am excited about the Modes (marketing called it Audio Interface Mode). I personally compare it to multi-booting a computer (such as bootcamp and many others)<br />
In the past Apogee&#8217;s products often got complicated very fast, because they are used in very different contexts and we had a hard time squeezing features and trying to make them make sense to everyone. In the end of the day if you&#8217;re using Logic you don&#8217;t care about ProTools HD specific features and vice versa for example.<br />
Symphony I/O can be restarted in a mode of the users choice and allowed us to keep the box make total sense and easy to use&#8230;for the context it&#8217;s living in at that moment. Rather than all contexts all at once <img src='http://createdigitalmusic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I personally will use it with Symphony64 at home&#8230;but it&#8217;s nice to (down the road) hook it USB to a laptop as that&#8217;s plenty in most cases (for me at least) when on the go, which I am not all that often anyhow.</p>
<p>c. As you know I am personally an Analog-synth and modular (eurorack) geek&#8230;until now us poor CV-needy souls had to more or less pick between the DC-capable MOTU with it&#8217;s crappy sound (for some reason with modulars that is sooo obvious) or better sound quality. I am talking about use with Expert Sleepers&#8217; Silent Way (which I use) or MOTU&#8217;s Volta.</p>
<p>Well this thing&#8217;s DA&#8217;s are DC capable&#8230;yay.</p>
<p>But not only that they have an amazing sense of zero (forgot what Lucas calls it, he calls it true-zero or something)&#8230;but in short the zero offset is not comparable to the other stuff out there. The legs are veeery symmetrical which does mean you absolutely without worry can use it to get double the voltage swing (and thus octave range)</p>
<p>Second it&#8217;s extreeeemely temperature stable, which is clearly important in that situation. I have not &#8216;measured&#8217; it versus a MOTU but in my experience once tuned I have not had issues (which i do with MOTU as my rig happens to be near the AC airflow in my relatively small appartment where there are physical constraints where I cna put my modular)<br />
I actually last week got an Expert Sleepers ES-1 with DB25 to use with this puppy. I pre-ordered my personal SymphonyIO. I like my Ensemble and all I use right now, but well this is a good notch up.</p>
<p>Obviously it can go out quite hot (+24dBu) so you get a nice large range to play.</p>
<p>d. We do see this not just as a product but more so as a project or platform or whatever you call it.<br />
That does imply we decided to not ship it all at once&#8230;.yes it doesn&#8217;t do everything under the sun today and for those people they can hold of. Likewise for many it is everything they wished for.<br />
Likewise the box is very modular in design in many aspects which will allow us to adapt and allow people to invest in this without the stuff that is valuable obsoleting as fast as technology in general does.<br />
Personally I like the Hasselblad analogy where they had an impossible time selling such expensive digital cameras&#8230;untill they figured out to make the digital part a slide-in part that gets updated whenever new stuff comes out and evolves with digital camera technology&#8230;but the body/optics and all that stay.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong there are many great aspects to this box, but well I know you know how to read and can go through our website and all that&#8230;the above is sort of my own input and highlight of less obvious stuff that I find cool about it.</p></blockquote>
<p>If you&#8217;re an Apogee user or in the market for this kind of device, I&#8217;d love to hear your thoughts on this offering and how it stacks up to the competition. And what do you think of the staggered release schedule as far as features, which starts now but extends through 2010?</p>
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		<title>Apogee GiO: Foot Control, Audio for GarageBand, Logic, MainStage</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The market is clear: guitarists (and other instrumentalists) want to plug in a piece of hardware, fire up their Mac, and start playing with GarageBand right away. The announcement of Apple&#8217;s new Logic Studio 9 last week coincided with the release of new hardware from Apogee, the audio vendor that has gone Mac-only and Apple-centric. &#8230; <a class="btn read-more" href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/07/apogee-gio-foot-control-audio-for-garageband-logic-mainstage/">Continue &#8594;</a>]]></description>
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<p>The market is clear: guitarists (and other instrumentalists) want to plug in a piece of hardware, fire up their Mac, and start playing with GarageBand right away. The announcement of Apple&#8217;s new Logic Studio 9 last week coincided with the release of new hardware from Apogee, the audio vendor that has gone Mac-only and Apple-centric. Today during a meeting with Apple, I got my first in-person look at the GiO (pronounced &#8220;Geo,&#8221; like the compact car, not G.I.O. as would rhyme with G.I. Joe).</p>
<p>A number of impressions that I didn&#8217;t get from the press announcement:<span id="more-6801"></span></p>
<p><strong>The hardware looks great.</strong> It&#8217;s tough to describe until you see in person, but while it seems to look almost cheap or toy-like in photos, the hardware is quite substantial, solid, and attractive. It&#8217;s also nice to see a pedalboard that&#8217;s fairly simple, with ample clearance between controls &#8211; essential for playing with your feet.</p>
<p><strong>It has awesome colored lights.</strong> No, really. Not only do the lights change color, but they&#8217;re actually color coded. So you can see, for instance, <em>which stompboxes you&#8217;re using</em> based on the color.</p>
<p><strong>It uses MIDI.</strong> Let&#8217;s get this out of the way. Apogee made such a big deal of saying this was compatible with GarageBand and Logic that I began to wonder if they&#8217;d somehow found a way to make something as simple as a pedalboard incompatible with everything else! Not so &#8211; the GiO just sends standard MIDI over USB. I&#8217;ll have to ask Apogee how this maps, and you may still be Mac-only assuming they wrote their own drivers. But I would imagine at the very least, if you want to swap between Logic and AmpliTube or Logic, you should be okay.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/gio.php">GiO</a> [Apogee Digital]</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re in love with Logic and GarageBand, GiO looks quite nice. $399 would be steep for a few buttons for your feet, but in a nice housing with an audio interface, if you get heavy use out of it, you may feel differently. You get integrated control, low-latency audio (instrument in + line out), 5 stompbox buttons + 5 transport controls + next/previous controls, and expression control. Of course, this is not news if you&#8217;re happy with similar solutions from IK Multimedia, Line6, Native Instruments, and WAVES &#8211; all of which also have impressive software and integrated hardware. And there&#8217;s nothing stopping you from using that hardware, or other MIDI pedalboards, even with Logic. And I&#8217;ll just keep dreaming of a thin-but-large magical pedalboard that I can toss in a bag with a laptop. My feet need more to do.</p>
<p><img src="http://createdigitalmusic.com/files/2009/07/gio2.jpg" alt="gio2" title="gio2" width="580" height="101" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-6807" /></p>
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		<title>Apogee ONE: USB Interface with Internal Mic, Guitar, Mic In, $249</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What do most musicians really need out of an audio interface? The answer to that question can vary wildly, but for a whole lot of people, it&#8217;s as simple as wanting to get an instrument and/or vocals in, and a basic, high-quality stereo mix out. That&#8217;s it. That&#8217;s part of why Apogee&#8217;s new compact ONE &#8230; <a class="btn read-more" href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/06/apogee-one-usb-interface-with-internal-mic-guitar-mic-in-249/">Continue &#8594;</a>]]></description>
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<p>What do most musicians really need out of an audio interface? The answer to that question can vary wildly, but for a whole lot of people, it&#8217;s as simple as wanting to get an instrument and/or vocals in, and a basic, high-quality stereo mix out. That&#8217;s it.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s part of why Apogee&#8217;s new compact ONE audio interface could be a huge hit on the Mac. Let&#8217;s reduce its specs to the basics:</p>
<ul>
<li>It lets you plug in a mic, with a preamp and phantom power</li>
<li>It lets you plug in an instrument (high impedance &#8212; so think your guitar or bass)</li>
<li>It has an internal condenser mic, so you can record on the go even if you don&#8217;t have a mic handy</li>
<li>It has a stereo output for headphones or powered monitors</li>
<li>It has a nice big, shiny knob and lights for levels.</li>
<li>It&#8217;s really small.</li>
</ul>
<p>Apogee&#8217;s converters are some of the most respected in the business. If this is up to their usual quality, that could make this a really special box &#8211; as a basic audio interface or an addition to your gig bag. This interface does 44.1/48kHz, 24-bit.</p>
<p>And it plugs in via USB with USB power support, so if you got one of Apple&#8217;s FireWire-less MacBooks &#8212; before the recent refresh returned FireWire &#8212; you can actually use this.</p>
<p>There is some bad news. This is <em>really</em> a single-input box; you can&#8217;t even use the instrument in and the mic in (even the internal mic) at the same time. That seems an odd choice, as it wipes out a whole bunch of singer-songwriters. The output, likewise, is unbalanced and out of a single 1/8&#8243; jack, which isn&#8217;t always what you want out gigging. And the ONE, pretty as it looks, has some stiff competition in the affordable USB market. On the other hand, if these specs do fit what you need, the ONE&#8217;s stablemate Duet had fantastic quality and uncommonly plug-and-play operation and Mac OS integration, making this really appealing for the Mac crowd.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;ve got to love that optional mic stand mount and design. It&#8217;s also really, really small &#8211; 4&#8243; W x 6.3&#8243; L x 1.5&#8243;. Apogee says &#8220;pocket-sized&#8221; which is a stretch unless they mean overalls or someone&#8217;s metric conversion is off, but it is nonetheless very portable. </p>
<p>Now, Apogee, if we could just get a ONE AND A HALF for people who like this but want balanced 1/4&#8243; outs and two simultaneous ins instead of one&#8230; (Yeah, I know, you can&#8217;t please everyone.)</p>
<p>The ONE ships in late July.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.apogeedigital.com/one">http://www.apogeedigital.com/one</a></p>
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<p>Thanks to Kevin Vanwulpen for the tip!</p>
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		<title>Apogee Dumps Windows, Tells Users Macs are Better</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe it was aesthetically incompatible with ugly PCs. Apogee Electronics has just announced they&#8217;ve dropped support development for Windows. Now, that&#8217;s their prerogative &#8211; not least because customers who prefer using Windows can simply choose to buy their competitors&#8217; products. But in a press release entitled &#8220;Apogee Discontinues Windows Support,&#8221; &#8220;Apogee Discontinues Windows Development,&#8221; Apogee &#8230; <a class="btn read-more" href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/02/apogee-dumps-windows-users-tells-them-macs-are-better/">Continue &#8594;</a>]]></description>
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<div class="imgcaption">Maybe it was <a href="http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2007/09/07/apogee-electronics-duet-is-le-sexy/">aesthetically incompatible with ugly PCs</a>.</div>
<p>Apogee Electronics has just announced they&#8217;ve dropped <strike>support</strike> development for Windows. Now, that&#8217;s their prerogative &#8211; not least because customers who prefer using Windows can simply choose to buy their competitors&#8217; products. But in a press release entitled <strike>&#8220;Apogee Discontinues Windows Support,&#8221;</strike>  &#8220;Apogee Discontinues Windows Development,&#8221; Apogee decides to tell you why, if you&#8217;re using Windows, you&#8217;re using an inferior platform.</p>
<p><strong>Correction:</strong> Apogee just sent an updated press release.</p>
<blockquote><p>ATTENTION ALL RECIPIENTS: Correction to Apogee&#8217;s most recent press release titled &#8220;Apogee Discontinues Windows Support&#8221;.</p>
<p>IMMEDIATE: Please revise headline to read &#8220;Apogee Discontinues Windows Development&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Guess Apogee is either reading CDM, or they just got some email about that subject header. And yes, dropping development of new products is not the same as dropping support for old ones, so this makes more sense (though the arguments I&#8217;m making about the tradeoffs between supporting platforms still apply).</p>
<blockquote><p>Apogee Electronics will no longer develop products for the Microsoft Windows platform. Apogee has made this decision in order to focus all research, development, and support resources on the Apple platform with its unparalleled power and stability. Apple offers a wide range of affordable, powerful desktop and laptop solutions ideally suited for music creation and audio production.</p></blockquote>
<p>This comes as no surprise, as Apogee&#8217;s interface line has already focused on the Mac. And, honestly, maybe that&#8217;s a good thing; the added focus could benefit Apogee as a small, boutique vendor.</p>
<p>More helpful advice if you are using Windows:</p>
<blockquote><p>Windows users can obtain the Apogee sound by connecting Apogee converters to their Windows-compatible audio interface via AES, optical, or S/PDIF. Apogee technical support will continue to support legacy Windows configurations installed on Windows XP Service Pack 2.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, of course, that&#8217;s correct: if you&#8217;re just using Apogee for their converters, you can connect to Linux or FreeBSD or an Amiga or whatever you like, provided the audio interface itself has digital ins and drivers on your OS of choice.</p>
<p>Now, don&#8217;t get me wrong, I think Apogee is free to do what they want. It also doesn&#8217;t speak well for Windows &#8211; it&#8217;s a vote against Windows as a platform and the costs of developing for and supporting it. But locking yourself to one platform has dangers, too. Apogee invested a lot of time and resources into supporting their Duet FireWire interface, only to see Apple drop FireWire from their non-Pro MacBook line. </p>
<p>Anecdotally and statistically (in surveys and server logs), we see about 40-50% of you using Windows. So, whatever Apogee&#8217;s opinion of the Mac platform&#8217;s merits, I don&#8217;t see this as making that market any less relevant. In fact, I expect the handful of vendors paying attention to Linux, too, could have an edge as platforms evolve over the coming years. Apogee may be better off focusing on the Mac, but that leaves some opportunities for those vendors supporting PCs.</p>
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		<title>Apogee Confirms Compatibility with MacBook Pro FW800</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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<p>As I&#8217;ve noted, unlike the new MacBook, the MacBook Pro revision retains FireWire, in the form of a FireWire 800 port. This does represent a switch to an NVIDIA chipset, so there may be new performance wrinkles with some interfaces. But it&#8217;s not the FW800 port per se you have to worry about. It gives you one less physical connector (previous MBPs had both a FW800 and FW400 port), but even the earlier models had just one bus for FireWire, shared between those two ports. There is a little bit of inconvenience there in that you need an adapter cable and have one less port free, but it&#8217;s much less of the deal-breaker the MacBook&#8217;s lack of FireWire or expansion is.</p>
<p>MOTU had already published a support note out about <a href="http://www.motu.com/techsupport/technotes/4-pin-or-firewire-800-firewire-with-motu-firewire-interface?set_language=en&#038;cl=en">supporting FW800 ports</a> &#8212; executive summary: don&#8217;t worry about it. Now Apogee, makers of the Mac-only Duet, weigh in:</p>
<blockquote><p>Connection between a &#8220;late-2008&#8243; MacBook Pro and Ensemble or Duet is made with a commonly available FW800 to FW400 adaptor or cable. The connection of Ensemble or Duet to a FW800 port is fully supported and in no way alters the performance of the interface.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/ensemble-duet_compatibility.php">Ensemble and Duet Compatible with New MacBook Pro</a> [Apogee Digital]</p>
<p>Via <a href="http://www.macmusic.org/news/view.php/lang/en/id/7082/">MacMusic</a>; thanks to <a href="http://www.synesthesiarecordings.com/">USO Project</a></p>
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		<title>NAMM: Apple + Apogee Use ExpressCard to Take Pro Studio Audio Mobile</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s a certain company &#8212; don&#8217;t want to name names, but it makes very popular products and rhymes with &#8220;Migidesign&#8221; &#8212; that sells decent audio converters and DSP systems at very expensive prices. They lock you into a single software solution, and when you want to go mobile, you have to give up all the &#8230; <a class="btn read-more" href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/01/namm-apple-apogee-use-expresscard-to-take-pro-studio-audio-mobile/">Continue &#8594;</a>]]></description>
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<p>There&#8217;s a certain company &#8212; don&#8217;t want to name names, but it makes very popular products and rhymes with &#8220;Migidesign&#8221; &#8212; that sells decent audio converters and DSP systems at very expensive prices. They lock you into a single software solution, and when you want to go mobile, you have to give up all the pro-level audio equipment or lug studio-size gear with you.</p>
<p>Native alternatives have always let you choose your audio system, and that&#8217;s a good thing. This year, Apple worked with Apogee to allow users of Logic and other native platforms to use what most people feel are superior converters. And whereas running native on the CPU used to cause some serious problems compared to dedicated DSP hardware, modern Intel chips give you more capabilities than you could ever use. So far, so good. But the problem of mobility remained: the need for PCI Express slots means you have to lug around a tower.</p>
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<p>Enter the ExpressCard slot on the MacBook Pro. By providing PCIe-style bandwidth, it&#8217;s now possible to use the same audio hardware on the road with a laptop as in a studio with a desktop. I got to talk with the top product experts from both Apogee and Apple about the new solution: Symphony Mobile. They&#8217;re very excited about it, of course, but I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ll be alone:<span id="more-1816"></span></p>
<p><a href="http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/symphonymobile.php">Symphony Mobile Product Page</a>, which explains a lot about how the system works</p>
<p><B>One cable to rule them all:</b> You have to buy all new audio hardware to go mobile, right? Wrong. Unplug your audio I/O hardware, then plug the <b>same cable</b> into an ExpressCard interface for a MacBook Pro. That&#8217;s all it takes. You still have to buy the ExpressCard adapter, but you don&#8217;t have to buy two sets of converters.</p>
<p><B>Total software flexibility:</b> Apple of course wanted to talk about their integration with Logic Pro, which is very nice and adds some great mixing functionality. But it&#8217;s important to note that, not only do you have the flexibility of AU plug-ins in Logic instead of a proprietary DSP system, the Apogee hardware is Core Audio-compatible and works with any app on the Mac. DP, Cubase, even Ableton Live? Use whatever you like, and switch if you like. There&#8217;s nothing inherently wrong with going all Pro Tools, all the time, but I have to observe that the alternative actually lets you choose instead of your hardware choosing for you.</p>
<p><B>High-end I/O on the road:</b> The solution scales from simple 2 in / 2 out all the way to 32 channels of 192kHz, 24-bit sound, and the MacBook Pro and Core Duo will scale with it (thanks, Intel), all with 1.6 ms of latency &#8212; well below the threshold of what almost anyone can hear.</p>
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<p>Apple also had some interesting benchmarks to talk about. They&#8217;ve got their quad Mac Pro running 30 Sculpture instrument instances as opposed to the quad G5&#8242;s 17, ran 1.8X the number of Platinum Reverb effects, and 174 MBit/s data throughput from the Mac Pro&#8217;s new four drive bays, compared to 61 MBit/s on the G5. Track count: 256 at 192k. As I found last year in Core Duo (not even Core 2 Duo) MacBook Pro tests, the new Intel laptop does decently on its own, with some 240 Platinum Reverb instances compared to 30 on a PowerBook G4, so production on the road is a reality. Apple&#8217;s tests aren&#8217;t real world, but they do indicate that processing headroom is not going to be a major problem.</p>
<p>So, everyone&#8217;s dumping Pro Tools, then? Don&#8217;t bet on it: I think studios will remain stubbornly loyal to the system they&#8217;ve already invested in, and Apple hasn&#8217;t answered questions (yet) about how they can compete with Pro Tools&#8217; saturation in fields like post production. That said, this does demonstrate the flexibility native systems offer, and <B>someone</b> is going to take advantage of it.</p>
<p>By the way, one thing Apple is not doing at NAMM is announcing any new software. I&#8217;ll admit; I&#8217;m disappointed, and I think the Apogee announcement will have an even greater impact once Apple has some newer software to show with it. But I&#8217;m guessing that the absence of any pro apps at NAMM and any consumer apps at Macworld means Apple&#8217;s software pipeline is waiting on the release of Leopard. Granted, we&#8217;re spoiled as it is with how quickly software in general is updated, but given the timing in the past, it seems at least possible that these will coincide with the new OS. Whatever the reason (and maybe it is just the existing development cycle), I know there are (of course) new versions of GarageBand, Logic Pro, and Apple&#8217;s other software in the works, and you&#8217;ll hear about them here when they&#8217;re official.</p>
<p>Previously:<br />
<a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/08/mac-pro-watch-apogee-syphony-drivers-with-2ms-latency-64-channel-surround-installation/">Mac Pro Watch: Apogee Syphony Drivers with 2ms Latency; 64-Channel Surround Installation</a></p>
<p><a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/01/18/look-out-pro-tools-new-high-end-apple-apogee-audio-pairing/">Look Out, Pro Tools: New High-end Apple + Apogee Audio Pairing</a></p>
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		<title>Mac Pro Watch: Apogee Syphony Drivers with 2ms Latency; 64-Channel Surround Installation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We don&#8217;t have to wait for press releases around here; an enthusiastic Apogee employee (not from the sales and marketing end, he says) writes in to brag about Apogee&#8217;s support for the new Apple Mac Pro. Not only are drivers available today for using the Apogee Symphony PCI-Express audio card, but Apogee says the combination &#8230; <a class="btn read-more" href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/08/mac-pro-watch-apogee-syphony-drivers-with-2ms-latency-64-channel-surround-installation/">Continue &#8594;</a>]]></description>
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<p>We don&#8217;t have to wait for press releases around here; an enthusiastic Apogee employee (<I>not</i> from the sales and marketing end, he says) writes in to brag about Apogee&#8217;s support for the new Apple Mac Pro. Not only are drivers available today for using the Apogee Symphony PCI-Express audio card, but Apogee says the combination of Apple and Apogee hardware acheives an unheard-of 2ms latency. From Apogee&#8217;s official statement:</p>
<blockquote><p>ApogeeÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬&trade;s new Universal PCI-Express driver, in combination with the powerful Intel processors in the Mac Pro, lowers the latency of the Symphony PCI-Express card by over 50% into the 2ms range. This achievement is a significant increase in performance beyond other native solutions on the market and compares favorably to the latency on other hardware-based systems.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/symphony.php">Symphony PCI Express Product Page</a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s impressively low latency for native-processed audio, and it makes native software solutions like Logic Pro, DP, and Live all the more appealing. I don&#8217;t want to get too overexcited based on marketing materials, though; anyone out there who&#8217;s lucky enough to get a Mac Pro and a Symphony card, I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll all be anxious to hear your real-world experiences.</p>
<p>Apogee&#8217;s Ensemble FireWire card also has drivers (in beta, but evidently useful) for all Intel Macs, in case you&#8217;re using that with a new Mac Pro.</p>
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<p>If you imagine these cards are only being used in studios, think again. Via Apogee&#8217;s <a href="http://www.apogeedigital.com/company/news.php#52">news page</a>, the 16:9 Art Installation at IRCAM/NIME 2006 let visitors spatialize sound on 144 speakers, all using a visual, painterly interface. [<a href="">Project page</a>] The resulting sounds, using two Symphony cards for 64 channels of audio, include lots of happy gurgles:</p>
<p><a href="http://netzspannung.org/cat/servlet/CatServlet/$files/331004/16%3A9_audio.mp3">happy gurgles</a></p>
<p><img src="http://createdigitalmusic.com/files/stories/2006/august2006/news_ircam_08.jpg"></p>
<p><I>Ed. note: <a href="http://www.apogeedigital.com/">Apogee Digital</a> appear to have crashed their server; I&#8217;ll update once it&#8217;s back up. Guess those Mac Pro users don&#8217;t want to wait for Digidesign and HD? -PK</i></p>
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