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		<title>How to Run Ableton Live on Apple TV; Live Music + Visual Apple TV</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 22:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Imagine the Apple TV as live music and visual instrument, and not just a way of watching archived Battlestar Galactica? Our friend Jeff Gambera has been busy hacking his Apple TV for just such unusual purposes. He&#8217;s gotten the real-time audio and music workstation Ableton Live working; even the demo song runs. (Plenty of people [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine the Apple TV as live music and visual instrument, and not just a way of watching archived Battlestar Galactica? Our friend Jeff Gambera has been busy hacking his Apple TV for just such unusual purposes. He&#8217;s gotten the real-time audio and music workstation Ableton Live working; even the demo song runs. (Plenty of people use Ableton Live with equal or lesser hardware; the aTV should easily beat many older G4s.)</p>
<p>This is big news for one primary reason: it means the Apple TV is capable handling multi-channel audio with real-time virtual instruments and time stretching. That makes the ATV a reasonable live music, DJ, sound art, or (once Quartz Composer and Max/MSP/Jitter and VDMX and Modul8 and such are running) live visuals. With networked music and sound and input from MIDI devices and alternative controllers just behind, this gets all the more interesting. Sure, a cheap PC could do the same &#8212; but it&#8217;s tough to find a $300 Mac this portable, let alone one that does all the Apple TV does. And, besides, it&#8217;s cool that someone&#8217;s got it working even as a gimmick.</p>
<p>First, some shaky video:<br />
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<p>Of course, it&#8217;s a little hard to follow from the video what&#8217;s going on, so I convinced Jeff to write up some instructions. Check out the generic Apple TV hacking instructions first, but then you can follow how to make Ableton work. I also spoke to Jeff about some more advanced possibilities with the Apple TV; more on that after the break.</p>
<h3>&#8220;AbletonTV&#8221; How-To:</h3>
<blockquote><p>This process invalidates your warranty on aTV. Please refer to <a href="wiki.awkwardtv.org">wiki.awkwardtv.org</a> for precise details regarding your aTV and the steps needed to get to the point you can run applications.</p>
<h3>Summary: The Basic Concept</h3>
<p>Enable SSH<br />
Patch the kernel for USB<br />
Mount drive read/write<br />
Remove watchdog<br />
Replace the Finder.app</p>
<p>Once these steps have been completed, you can run many OS X applications on the device. <span id="more-1999"></span> </p>
<p>There are several ways to launch a program from the aTV. The most basic is using the ssh terminal into the box and<br />
issuing the open command:</p>
<p><b>open blah.app</b></p>
<p>A second way is to actually copy a file manager program like <a href="http://www.binarynights.com/">Forklift</a> onto the aTV and use that to double-click the application.</p>
<h3>Step by Step</h3>
<p>Copy your Ableton Live program to /Applications on your aTV. Use your serial number or just enable the demo. <I>Ed.: Note that the demo will run unlimited; it just won&#8217;t save or load instruments you&#8217;ve purchased. If you&#8217;re concerned about running out of authorizations, that could be a fine way to go; just leave the serial authorization on your main machine(s). -PK</i></p>
<p>Once Ableton Live is on the aTV filesystem, from SSH run something like</p>
<p><b>open /Applications/Live 5.2/Live.app</b></p>
<p>If you have performed the USB kernel patch, your keyboard and mouse will work.</p>
<p>Have fun.</p></blockquote>
<p>And Live is just the beginning. Apple TV already has the ability to run Core Image-style graphics, so imaging with programs like Quartz Composer and VDMX could be possible, as well. (Jerome was already playing around with Quartz Composer.) USB audio and MIDI should be possible, as well. Bluetooth might even enable the use of the Nintendo Wii controller, which can in turn be used with Ableton Live via additional intermediate MIDI software. </p>
<p>Jerome said he was next interested in playing with networking, so that aTVs could be combined with other Macs &#8212; or each other &#8212; and transmit networked audio, MIDI, and other information. Max/MSP can run on the Apple TV, so that&#8217;s one possibility for networking, and for audio he was trying plasq&#8217;s Wormhole plug-in. In theory, even online collaboration tools like Ninjam could work.</p>
<p>Of course, everything we&#8217;re describing here is possible because it&#8217;s possible on the Mac, and that&#8217;s really what aTV is. So why would you want to do this in the first place? Aside from &#8220;because it&#8217;s there&#8221;, think about the fact that the aTV is US$300, has capabilities of its own, and has significant appeal as an installation machine &#8212; at half the price of sticking a new Mac mini in an art gallery, you could have aTVs running visuals and sound, for instance. I&#8217;ll leave you to figure out the rest.</p>
<p>If you hack your aTV for multimedia creation purposes, do let us know. Anything that takes this device beyond iTunes sounds good to me.</p>
<p>Previously: <a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/teaser-apple-tv-running-ableton-live/">Apple TV Running Ableton Live</a></p>
<p>See also: <a href="http://www.appletvhacks.net/2007/04/01/mac-os-x-running-on-apple-tv/">Mac OS X running on Apple TV</a></p>
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		<title>Teaser: Apple TV Running Ableton Live</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/27/teaser-apple-tv-running-ableton-live/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[An anonymous reader has Ableton Live running successfully on Apple TV &#8212; yes, Apple TV the actual hardware. If you haven&#8217;t been watching the Mac blogs, the Apple TV is in fact a mini computer and hackers are all over it. Suddenly, what looked like somewhat bland hardware may become more popular because of hackers. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An anonymous reader has Ableton Live running successfully on Apple TV &#8212; yes, Apple TV <I>the actual hardware</I>. If you haven&#8217;t been watching the Mac blogs, the Apple TV is in fact a mini computer and hackers are all over it. Suddenly, what looked like somewhat bland hardware may become more popular because of hackers. Will you soon be carrying Apple TV&#8217;s to a gig? We&#8217;re waiting on our tipster to provide some more screen grabs and video with details, but in the meantime, here&#8217;s a snapshot (viewed from another Mac remotely).</p>
<p><img src="http://www.createdigitalmusic.com/images/2007/03/liveTV2.jpg"></p>
<p>More on Apple TV hacking:<br />
<a href="http://www.awkwardtv.org/?p=9">Apple TV boots from USB (without opening case)</a> [ AwkwardTV, which has some other good <a href="http://www.awkwardtv.org/">hacking information</a> ]<br />
<a href="http://www.appletvhacks.net/">AppleTVhacks.net</a></p>
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