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		<title>Video Tips on Live 8&#8242;s Vocoder, Collision Devices, Plus Live 8 Review</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still evaluating Live 8 &#8211; or want to learn more about how to use it? You can now read my review of Ableton Live 8 free on Keyboard Magazine&#8217;s site: Ableton Live 8 Review [Keyboard Magazine] See also (via comments) Nick Rothwell&#8217;s review for Sound on Sound June [subscription or US$1.49 fee required] Keyboard doesn&#8217;t &#8230; <a class="btn read-more" href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/07/video-tips-on-live-8s-vocoder-collision-devices-plus-live-8-review/">Continue &#8594;</a>]]></description>
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<p>Still evaluating Live 8 &#8211; or want to learn more about how to use it? You can now read my review of Ableton Live 8 free on Keyboard Magazine&#8217;s site:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.keyboardmag.com/article/ableton-live-8/jul-09/98725">Ableton Live 8 Review</a> [Keyboard Magazine]<br />
See also (via comments) <a href="http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun09/articles/live8.htm">Nick Rothwell&#8217;s review for Sound on Sound June</a> [subscription or US$1.49 fee required]</p>
<p>Keyboard doesn&#8217;t yet have comments, so feel free to discuss &#8211; or disagree &#8211; here.</p>
<p>I wanted to back up a little bit and consider Live as if for the first time. Now, I had also personally heard at least Robert Henke complain at one point that reviews of Live were uncritical. That to me would be a flaw as a reviewer, because all software designs involve compromises, so no software can ever be perfect. Here, I still feel there&#8217;s legitimate room for improvement in terms of the way Live handles interactive clip triggering and how it assigns control. Of course, we&#8217;re not just passively complaining about it &#8211; there&#8217;s also a community of Live users working to hack in functionality they need using the Live API, both via Python and forthcoming Max for Live.</p>
<p>Also for the review, I shot some quick video demos of features that were easier to show than describe, namely the new instrument Collision and the Vocoder effect. These are basically mini-tutorials on these creations. See Collision at top, Vocoder after the break at bottom. <strong>Fixed! Now the top video is actually the Collision video. (Oops.)</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m a huge fan of physical modeling and Applied Acoustics, and Collision is one of the best percussion models I&#8217;ve seen. It starts to approach some of what&#8217;s possible in Apple&#8217;s Sculpture in Logic, but in a much more focused context, and with some unparalleled resonators (which you can also use on their own in the form of Corpus). See the top video for a walkthrough of the interface.<span id="more-6730"></span></p>
<p>We may need to revisit the vocoder issue as there&#8217;s a new vocoder in FL Studio (<a href="http://www.image-line.com/documents/news.php?entry_id=1248108095">Vocodex in the current beta</a>), plus the existing vocoder in Reason. Sounds like there&#8217;s an article here waiting to happen. I like Ableton&#8217;s vocoder, though; it&#8217;s a different implementation and coupled with their unique Frequency Shifter, you can get some really unusual sounds.</p>
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<p>For more Live 8 learning (and a more in-depth discussion of different ways of approaching the Frequency Shifter):</p>
<p><a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/06/03/live-8-videos-new-warping-explained-apc-remote-sl-integration/">Live 8 Videos: New Warping Explained, APC + ReMOTE SL Integration</a></p>
<p><a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/27/ableton-live-8-misuse-ping-pong-psuedo-scratching-effect-video-tutorial/">Ableton Live 8 Misuse: Ping Pong Psuedo Scratching Effect Video Tutorial</a></p>
<p><a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/14/ableton-live-8-creative-tutorial-videos-using-and-misusing-groove-extraction/">Ableton Live 8 Creative Tutorial Videos: Using and Misusing Groove Extraction</a></p>
<p><a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/14/ableton-live-8-creative-tutorial-videos-misusing-frequency-shifter/">Ableton Live 8 Creative Tutorial Videos: Misusing Frequency Shifter</a></p>
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