Numark’s NuVJ as a DJ/Music Controller; No Nudge on iDJ2 iPod DJ Mixer (But Some Won’t Care)

Numark’s new VJ product looks like it could be the missing link DJ controller hardware a lot of us wanted. The Behringer BCD2000 is inexpensive, but availability has been scarce and it doesn’t yet support the Mac, on top of some MIDI implementation oddities. (See shipping and driver complaints, full review on PC.)

The US$300 NuVJ, in contrast, looks like it might have just the combination of controller features and build that people want, with complete Mac and Windows support. More on that in a moment.

In the meantime, our friend Steve Cooley writes on somesoundswelike about the disappointing lack of nudge controls on the iDJ2, Numark’s revision to its iPod DJ mixer:

I’ve been staring at the iDJ2, and noticed there’s no nudge controls … you know, the thing that lets you simulate a spindle-twist or a finger on the platter to momentarily speed up or slow down a track that you’re beatmatching to another track … these are absolutely critical tools to beat matching … Oof. To come within 99% of solving all of the criticisms of the original iDJ, and then fall on your face for the last 1%… that’s a shame.

Shown: his picture, clearly laying out his response. I don’t expect this will get fixed, as the iDJ2 is supposed to ship some time in August. Sure enough, if you look closely at the NuVJ controller, it has the same problem, and even more oddly lacks transport controls. (Maybe Numark is planning a separate controller for the music market, and assuming VJs will just use the clip buttons to trigger their video clips?)

Thanks, Steve! I’m equally disappointed: this could be a deal breaker on the iDJ2. But back to the NuVJ, I still think some people might find it useful as a controller for software like Ableton Live, musicians and DJs alike, assuming Numark gets the other details right. See Create Digital Motion for a preview of the hardware, but here are the controls that could make it useful for music, from Numark’s specs:

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Messe: Could iDJ2 iPod Mixer Please Even Those Sick of iPods?

If you’re like me, your head is about to explode from iPod overload. Can you still find something about a new iPod DJ mixer to love? Maybe: this one lets you connect other players and USB storage and scratch, change pitch, and loop. It might even appeal as a portable scratcher/sampler. And you can use it to play FLAC and OGG files, meaning you could dock it in your living room to play back all that glitchy, indie music you’ve been buying in the seldom-trod corners of online music stores. (Read: not the iTunes Music Store.) In fact, you don’t really even need an iPod. Here’s a first look at Numark’s second take on the iDJ — and some details on why we might just have to give it a second chance.


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Numark iDJ Reviewed by “Playlist”, Twice; Does Vinyl Beat `Pod?


Playlist, the iPod DJ club — and Playlist, the website, no relation — both take on the Numark iDJ iPod DJ mixer:

Hands-on Numark iDJ Review by DJ Lisa Rocket, resident at the Playlist Club in London


Numark iDJ Review by yours truly for Playlistmag.com

Incidentally, everyone who goes to Playlist, the Philly and London club, has a fantastic time DJing with iPods. Partygoers bring music, people who’ve never “DJed” before in their lives mix music, there’s judging, and everyone has a ball — see the photos. That to me is the ideal market for the iDJ, and not surprisingly organizer Lisa (pictured) loves hers. But if you’re not running an iPod DJ party, do you want a Numark iDJ mixer?


DJ Lisa Rocket concludes: “The Numark iDJ is much easier to use than a traditional iPod DJ set-up, it delivers better sound handling capabilities, looks like it’s come off the USS Enterprise, allows me to mix and record sets…. and I for one definitely want one now.”


My Playlist review has the headline: “iPod-focused DJ mixer is unique but ultimately disappointing (thanks to limitations of both the iDJ and the iPod itself). 2.5 / 5.”

Numark iDJ Confirmed for September; Still Can’t Scratch iPod

Numark has posted full details of their US$399-list iPod DJ mixer on their site; check out the product details and specs, or see their PDF product overview and FAQ. Yes, those controls work on the iPod, the dock charges the Pods, and you can upload music onto the iPod via USB. No, there’s no new capabilities that you wouldn’t have plugging two iPods into a DJ mixer: you still can’t scratch, pitch adjust, or beat-match. It’s an iPod; whadayawant? But you can attach it to a turntable spindle. (The horror!)


Compatibility remains a question-mark; definitely new iPods and iPod photos, but Numark refers to these as “second-generation” rather than what Apple calls them, “fourth-generation” or “click wheel” iPods. Go figure. Numark also offers this helpful advice if you’ve got a competing player: can you use it?

Answer: Absolutely. You can use any MP3 player by using the headphone jack on your player and plugging into the iDJ’s RCA input on the unit’s back panel. You will also need to use the MP3 Player’s controls to navigate and play songs.


They’re joking, right?


Numark tells CDM they expect shipping in volume to begin late September. So you can give them as gifts for Columbus Day, not just Christmas.

NAMM: Numark Launches iDJ Mixer for iPod at $399

Updated – Numark confirmed the story, and expects volume shipments to begin in September. See the updated story. -PK


GearJunkies reports that Numark has released the rumored DJ mixer for the iPod. (Updated: Looks like the original link is on the Spanish site Abizu, linked on Engadget.) Some juicy details:

Big controls for iPod scroll wheel and transport buttons


Ins and outs for connecting other gear (like, say, a turntable?


2-channel mixer, 3-band EQ


USB connection to Mac/PC; full docking support


S-Video out for iPod Photo


Recording support (in iPod)

Pricing/availability: Reportedly US$399 (!) / third quarter
CDM 5 words: Beware bad iPod DJ hacks.


Do I want one? Yes, please. I’m not planning to iPod DJ any time soon, but you know this is the only way to dock your iPods at home.


See previous coverage on CDM, complete with lots of people ranting. Shining, angry people. Really angry. Can you hold off from the rants this time, folks?


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