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		<title>Ableton Live Lounge Saturday Night in NYC; Live Controller History in Progress</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Handheld eggs, ironing boards, machinedrums, phones &#8230; live setups can involve all sorts of oddities, especially among the rabid (in a good way) Ableton Live fanbase, and we&#8217;ll be showing them in NYC. Saturday night, we&#8217;ll chill out after Dubspot&#8217;s day-long workshop with a free, open party in Manhattan&#8217;s Meatpacking District at 675 Bar to [...]]]></description>
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<p>Handheld eggs, ironing boards, machinedrums, phones &#8230; live setups can involve all sorts of oddities, especially among the rabid (in a good way) Ableton Live fanbase, and we&#8217;ll be showing them in NYC. Saturday night, we&#8217;ll chill out after Dubspot&#8217;s day-long workshop with a free, open party in Manhattan&#8217;s Meatpacking District at 675 Bar to explore some new musical interfaces, have a few drinks, meet each other, and hear some new sounds. [<a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/event.php?eid=95299972531">Facebook RSVP</a>]</p>
<p>For more on the whole week&#8217;s events with Dubspot, see <a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/06/19/free-and-discounted-ableton-live-learning-in-nyc-kj-sawkas-chops-richies-controller/">our previous post</a>.</p>
<p>Confirmed lineup:</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.myspace.com/isomertransition">Isomer Transition</a> (aka RJ Valeo) doing some superb-quality techno with lots of knobs and a machinedrum + Ableton Live</li>
<li>Ted Hayes&#8217; <a href="http://log.liminastudio.com/?p=253">EggBeater wireless shaker</a> for rhythms, built in free software <a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/tag/pd">Pure Data</a> and used (in this case) with Ableton Live</li>
<li>Sound artist <a href="http://www.moonmilk.com/">Ranjit Bhatnagar</a> with a musical <strong>MIDI ironing board</strong> (pictured below) controlling Live, as seen at Handmade Music (at which it was <a href="http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/news/2007/09/handmademusic">covered by Wired.com</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.trackteamaudio.com/">Track Team Audio&#8217;s</a> Michael Hatsis showing some tweaked-out Live control in action &#8211; hopefully including his <a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/06/15/apc40-hacking-superguide-monome-emulator-midi-tricks-and-the-handshake/">APC40 hacks</a> and monome patches.</li>
<li>Me, playing a set with control TBD &#8211; possibly Lemur and/or my Android phone</li>
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<p>The &#8220;beater&#8221; application is really quite nice, and follows with a lot of handheld-style, gestural controllers we&#8217;re seeing lately. That could mean that soon we could have some sort of software layer that works with any of these controllers &#8212; substituting, say, a Wii or mobile phone. Here&#8217;s a great video from the ITP show (the bi-annual exposition of the work of interactive technology students at New York University):</p>
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<p>The ironing board I&#8217;m also, as always, excited about; I&#8217;ll be working with Ranjit (and his dogs) tomorrow to try to map it intelligently, and we&#8217;ll be sure to share our results for everyone.</p>
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<p>And here&#8217;s some nice work by Isomer Transition &#8211; I love that RJ can cover the gamut from dance-y to experimental.</p>
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<p><strong>If you&#8217;re in NYC, be sure to join us and bring friends &#8211; </strong> the event is free and open from 6:30-9:30pm, and 675 Bar has a range of tasty treats and drinks and looks like the basement you wish you had. (Hey, it&#8217;s NYC, so we just <em>share</em> a basement.) See the <a href="http://nymag.com/daily/food/2009/04/your_first_look_at_675_bar_soo.html">New York Mag review</a>.</p>
<p>And, as a last-minute reminder, tonight (Thursday) 675 is also host to a free workshop on Live 8 with the insanely-talented KJ Sawka. We should have some video from this event (and a lot of the rest of the weekend) for the World Beyond New York. See Ableton&#8217;s announcement of <a href="http://www.ableton.com/pages/2009/dub_spot">tonight&#8217;s user group</a>.</p>
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<p>And you can also follow <a href="http://twitter.com/peterkirn">my Twitter </a>or the <a href="http://twitter.com/cdmblogs">CDM Twitter</a> on Saturday and through the weekend.</p>
<p><strong>A History of Ableton Controllers</strong></p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;ll be done in time for the workshop I&#8217;m teaching Sunday, I&#8217;m compiling a history of Live controllers. There are too many alternative controllers in the world to cover, but over the years at CDM we&#8217;ve seen Live is a popular choice &#8211; even if only for prototyping, prior to building your own system. Nominees?</p>
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