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		<title>Max for Live Beta is Here; Final Version November 23</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/11/04/max-for-live-beta-is-here-final-version-november-23/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Max For Live Sneak Peak from max4live on Vimeo.
Suddenly, I have an image of American Ableton hackers patching on their MacBook over Thanksgiving turkey.
After a long, long wait, a public beta of Max for Live is available. The software incorporates the full version of Max/MSP/Jitter &#8211; complete with visual output, video processing, and 3D capabilities [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/6770439">Max For Live Sneak Peak</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/max4live">max4live</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
<p>Suddenly, I have an image of American Ableton hackers patching on their MacBook over Thanksgiving turkey.</p>
<p>After a long, long wait, a public beta of Max for Live is available. The software incorporates the full version of Max/MSP/Jitter &#8211; complete with visual output, video processing, and 3D capabilities &#8211; with the Live host. Max patches operate with all their usual capabilities as devices inside Live. User interface elements are available to give Max patches conventional Ableton device interfaces, and there are even pre-built elements for useful functions like frequency displays and MIDI patterns. Via the Live API, Max for Live patches are also able to control most elements of the Live interface.</p>
<p>Because of Max&#8217;s networking capabilities, Max for Live devices can also be used to route OpenSoundControl data into Live. That isn&#8217;t necessarily with the same ease as you might route MIDI, and there&#8217;s still no native support in the Live interface, but it is a step forward.</p>
<p>Our friend Michael at <a href="http://max4live.info/">max4live.info</a> has been busy documenting the new software. His overview video is at top, and for OSC coverage, see his tutorial [<a href="http://max4live.info/content/osc-tutorial-part-1-our-osc-tutorial-series">part 1</a> | <a href="http://max4live.info/content/tutorial-open-sound-control-part-2">part 2</a>].</p>
<p><strong>Updated: Pricing has now been announced.</strong><br />
Max for Live is not included with Live 8 or even (perhaps surprisingly) Live Suite. It will be a US$299 / EUR249 download, available separately, on top of the cost of Live 8 or Live Suite 8. If you already own Max, you&#8217;ll have a set of crossgrades available:<br />
1. You own Live. You can add Max for Live for US$99.<br />
2. You don&#8217;t own Live, and want just Live. You can get that and Max for Live for US$449.<br />
3. You don&#8217;t own Live, and want the whole Suite. Suite plus Max for Live crossgrade, US$699.</p>
<p><strong>Total cost:</strong><br />
Max owners without Live: US$449-699<br />
Live owners without Max: US$299 + cost of the upgrade to Live 8<br />
Max + Live owners: US$99 + cost of the upgrade to Live 8</p>
<p>I think this could arguably be worth the investment, but given the discontinuation of support for developing VST, RTAS, and AU plug-ins in Max &#8211; a feature that was formerly free &#8211; I expect some resistance. Also, as previously announced, there is no known Max for Live &#8220;runtime,&#8221; meaning Max patch developers don&#8217;t really have a distribution outlet for work made in Max for Live, other than other Max for Live users.</p>
<p>Sign up for the public beta on Ableton&#8217;s site, and you&#8217;ll be able to grab the downloads (details below). You <strong>must be an Ableton Live 8 owner</strong>, though you don&#8217;t need to own Max 5:<br />
<a href="http://www.ableton.com/maxforlive/beta">http://www.ableton.com/maxforlive/beta</a><span id="more-8245"></span></p>
<p>At the bottom of the page, you&#8217;ll have a direct link to download Live 8.1 (the official current build of Live is 8.0.9 otherwise), and a link to Cycling&#8217;s site to <a href="http://www.cycling74.com/downloads/maxforlive">download Max</a>. (Note: the Max link <del datetime="2009-11-04T17:01:53+00:00">worked this morning, then promptly disappeared, so it&#8217;s possible they&#8217;re uploading an updated build</del> is now back up.)</p>
<p>There are full instructions there. I was able to simply click a button and become a beta tester; hopefully you have the same experience. You&#8217;ll need to install two pieces of software, both Ableton Live 8.1 on the Live side and Max 5.1. </p>
<p><a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/images/2009/11/device_patching.png"><img src="http://createdigitalmusic.com/images/2009/11/device_patching.png" alt="device_patching" title="device_patching" width="556" height="517" class="alignright size-full wp-image-8256" /></a></p>
<p>For the Python-based Live API, and the MIDI and OSC interfaces based on it, this should also come as good news. Live 8.1 should theoretically represent a more stable, feature-complete, fully documented version of the Live API under the hood in Live. That means even without Max for Live, it may be possible to, say, route an OSC input into Live as easily as a MIDI control surface.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d like to join in with other people working on hacking Ableton Live and ask questions, try out our Noisepages group, which should now be functioning properly with a forum, wire, and networking features. More to come with this, with Max for Live, with OSC, with other tools, with&#8230; yeah, I&#8217;m glad I own a coffee maker.</p>
<p><a href="http://noisepages.com/groups/ableton-hackers">http://noisepages.com/groups/ableton-hackers</a></p>
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		<title>Vinyl + Ableton: Ms. Pinky and Max for Live Working Now</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/10/30/vinyl-ableton-ms-pinky-and-max-for-live-working-now/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Photo (CC) Brendan Dawes.
It&#8217;s round, it&#8217;s mechanically-resistant, it&#8217;s tangible, it supports multi-touch and gestures. Yep &#8211; it&#8217;s the turntable, and outdoing it would mean reinventing the wheel, literally. And so it is that more than a few Ableton fans have wondered how they might work vinyl into their software axe of choice. 
Ableton and digital [...]]]></description>
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<div class="imgcaption">Photo (<a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/deed.en">CC</a>) <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/bjdawes/">Brendan Dawes</a>.</div>
<p>It&#8217;s round, it&#8217;s mechanically-resistant, it&#8217;s tangible, it supports multi-touch and gestures. Yep &#8211; it&#8217;s the turntable, and outdoing it would mean reinventing the wheel, literally. And so it is that more than a few Ableton fans have wondered how they might work vinyl into their software axe of choice. </p>
<p>Ableton and digital vinyl vendor Serato have announced they&#8217;re doing &#8220;something,&#8221; and then announced at the beginning of October <a href="http://www.ableton.com/pages/2009/ableton_and_serato">that an announcement would be announced</a> on January 14, 2010 at NAMM. Oh, and they said it will &#8220;unleash your creativity,&#8221; which sounds good. (It&#8217;s better than, say, &#8220;Ableton and Serato&#8217;s creative partnership will unleash two dozen angry badgers,&#8221; or &#8220;if you own Ableton Live, what we will say in 2010 is that we will unleash an unspeakable, nameless evil, known only to the ancients, which shall bring about the endtimes.&#8221;)</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the surprise &#8211; you likely won&#8217;t have to wait for Serato to get integrated digital vinyl control. It&#8217;s already working with Ms. Pinky, and that means more choice, more DIY possibilities, and a broader variety of ways to integrate turntables and Live.</p>
<p>You see, there&#8217;s this little thing called Max for Live, which allows the use of Max patches inside Live as seamless instruments and effects. And one of the best &#8211; if least-known &#8211; vinyl control systems out there has long featured Max integration: <a href="http://www.mspinky.com">Ms. Pinky</a>. People have already made use of VST plug-in integration, but because Max for Live also connects to the Live API for control of Live itself, the functionality of the two can be expanded.</p>
<p><a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/images/2009/10/m4live_pinky.jpg"><img src="http://createdigitalmusic.com/images/2009/10/m4live_pinky.jpg" alt="m4live_pinky" title="m4live_pinky" width="580" height="200" class="alignright size-full wp-image-8147" /></a></p>
<p>Via our friend Luthier.Lab, we get a first look at the Ms. Pinky plug-in. And this should be just the beginning, as Ms. Pinky and its Max/MSP support could be a great construction kit for building your own solution &#8211; something that may not be possible with Serato.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.e-lectronica.com/luthierlab/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=53:msp-maxforlive&#038;catid=43:las-palabras-del-mudo">Ms.PinkyforLive</a> [Luthier.Lab - en Español]<br />
<a href="http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&#038;langpair=es|en&#038;u=http://www.e-lectronica.com/luthierlab/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D53:msp-maxforlive%26catid%3D43:las-palabras-del-mudo&#038;rurl=translate.google.com&#038;client=tmpg&#038;usg=ALkJrhj_tmBk_3IwIyGcilgk_Xouct5agw">Google Translate</a> (which has some very funny ideas about how to translate Spanish)<br />
<a href="http://www.mspinky.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=921&amp;highlight=">Discussion on the Ms. Pinky forum</a></p>
<p>While you ponder the possibilities, it&#8217;s time for a video from Daito Manabe demonstrating that not all turntablists sound quite the same.<span id="more-8139"></span></p>
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		<title>Mash-Up Video Inside Ableton with a MIDI-Controlled Plug-in</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/29/mash-up-video-inside-ableton-with-a-midi-controlled-plug-in/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 08:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Live-triggered video inside your music host is about to get a lot more popular. Daniel &#8220;Herb&#8221; Herbert writes to let us know that his Mabuse Software, an &#8220;experimental audiovisual software company,&#8221; has developed a new AV plug-in for mashing up video. It&#8217;s a VST plug-in based on the now-defunct Pluggo, with a Max for Live [...]]]></description>
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<p>Live-triggered video inside your music host is about to get a lot more popular. Daniel &#8220;Herb&#8221; Herbert writes to let us know that his Mabuse Software, an &#8220;experimental audiovisual software company,&#8221; has developed a new AV plug-in for mashing up video. It&#8217;s a VST plug-in based on the now-defunct Pluggo, with a Max for Live port coming later this year as that is released. Of course, that does reveal some of the trouble with Cycling &#8217;74&#8217;s decision to dump Pluggo. You&#8217;ll be limited to running this kind of cool software in Live, and from what they&#8217;ve said so far, you&#8217;ll also have to pay for Max for Live to do it &#8211; no free run-time is planned. But I can tell you that all of Jitter&#8217;s video and 3D output capabilities work from inside Max, including in full-screen mode, so there&#8217;s no question you&#8217;ll get some power out of the combination. I just hope people find some creative stuff to do and not <em>just</em> more of the same YouTube mash-ups.</p>
<p>Herb describes the software and promises more AV tools to come:</p>
<blockquote><p>The beta version won’t save, but is otherwise fully functional.<br />
A full screen add-on will be available soon, as well as a number of other plugins to expand the Mabuse AV range.<br />
Features include:<br />
Run video within a VST plugin<br />
Automatic Tempo matching<br />
MIDI controllable video fx<br />
Easy to use browser<br />
Record to Quicktime Movie</p>
<p>A PC version will be available if there’s enough interest through the forum and you could be in with a chance of winning a copy by joining the mailing list before the full version is released.</p></blockquote>
<p>Short 1 min demo video<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9TGDrkJh6A">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9TGDrkJh6A</a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9TGDrkJh6A"></p>
<p>5 min tutorial video<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ_xDptp-ws ">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ_xDptp-ws </a></p>
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		<title>Akai APC40 Ableton Performance Controller Hands-On Videos, in the Wild</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/12/akai-apc40-ableton-performance-controller-hands-on-video-by-derek-michael/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 14:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Akai APC40, the result of a collaboration between Akai and Ableton, has made its way into the wild. Here’s the first hands-on video – I have to say, I love the green lights. Who would have thought that Matrixsynth green would be the shade this year? You can thank AudioMIDI.com for getting the loaner [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Akai APC40, the result of a collaboration between Akai and Ableton, has made its way into the wild. Here’s the first hands-on video – I have to say, I love the green lights. Who would have thought that <a href="http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/">Matrixsynth</a> green would be <em>the</em> shade this year? You can thank <a href="http://audiomidi.com">AudioMIDI.com</a> for getting the loaner out in the world.</p>
<p><strike>Not a whole lot to see in this very first video, but it does give you a feel for what the hardware itself is like.</strike>&#160; <strong>Update: </strong>AKAI requested that the first video in this story be removed by its author on Vimeo, so we no longer have a video to embed.</p>
<p>The integration between software and hardware we should see revealed more over the coming weeks. I’m hoping to get my hands on one myself in the near future; I haven’t yet.</p>
<p>Of course, the APC isn’t alone. I’m still eagerly awaiting the <a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/03/19/livids-ohm64-love-child-of-a-monome-and-a-dj-vj-mixer-controller/">Ohm64 from Livid</a>, a beautiful controller with a wooden body, made with care in the US. Unlike the APC, the Ohm has a customizable MIDI response &#8212; the way the hardware itself responds is programmable. And, of course, there’s still the classic monome (<a href="http://monome.org/">site</a> | <a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/tag/monome">cdm tag</a>), open source hardware with an elegant minimalist design. Custom Max control patches have made the monome a favorite, especially for those with the chops to not only use the community-made patches, but build their own – by coincidence, the monome folks just <a href="http://docs.monome.org/doku.php?id=app:monomecontrol">posted a link</a> to a library of Max monome objects. For both the Ohm and monome, it’ll be easier and more powerful to integrate Max objects with Live when Max for Live ships later this year. Even the APC will get its own custom patches. And, as Hédi points out, there&#8217;s also the elegant, compact, solidly-built <a href="http://faderfox.de">Faderfox</a>, which could also get a new lease on life with Max patching.</p>
<p>The upshot of all of this: even if people are using the same controller, they won’t necessarily use it the same way, which is how it should be. Stay tuned.</p>
<p><strong>Update: this just in &#8211;</strong> a second video of the APC, this one sent to us by our friend Stephan Vankov (<a href="http://tetmusic.com">tetmusic.com</a>). We&#8217;ve seen Stephan before, tearing up a wild audiovisual remix of <a href="http://createdigitalmotion.com/2008/01/22/karate-kid-av-remix/">The Karate Kid</a> with the crew at the CDM NAMM party last year. It&#8217;s nice to see the APC out of the trade show floors, naturally.</p>
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		<title>Future Grooves: Breeding Beats Like DNA, Lemur + Ableton Live + Max 5</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/02/08/future-grooves-breeding-beats-like-dna-lemur-ableton-live-max-5/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[DyNAmic sequencer from Lo-Fi Massahkah on Vimeo.
Ready for some musical genetic engineering?
Much of the sound of electronic music today grows out of the use &#8211; and abuse &#8211; of specific designs. The electronica beats bred in discos and techno, Detroit and Berlin have a direct lineage to analog step sequencers and the rigid precision of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><object width="579" height="437"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=2684254&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=1&amp;color=CC0000&amp;fullscreen=1" /><embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=2684254&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=1&amp;color=CC0000&amp;fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="579" height="437"></embed></object><br /><a href="http://vimeo.com/2684254">DyNAmic sequencer</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user454089">Lo-Fi Massahkah</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
<p>Ready for some musical genetic engineering?</p>
<p>Much of the sound of electronic music today grows out of the use &#8211; and abuse &#8211; of specific designs. The electronica beats bred in discos and techno, Detroit and Berlin have a direct lineage to analog step sequencers and the rigid precision of Roland&#8217;s early electronic devices. These designs create limitations to embrace and to oppose &#8211; just as music notation or theoretical convention did for composers for centuries.</p>
<p>Okay, that&#8217;s a lofty way to put it &#8212; the question here is, how do you re-engineer music, even an ounce at a time? If you&#8217;re a composer a few centuries ago, you make subtle changes to your craft, working inside a convention, and write that down. (Just as with electronic music, there is a layer of separation &#8211; only then, it was a piece of paper.) If you&#8217;re an electronic artist today, you can likewise change what you&#8217;re able to control, and how, playing live. The differences at first may be imperceptible, but just like learning an instrument, the long-term payoff can be huge.</p>
<p>I asked for examples of what people are doing with the Lemur multi-touch touchscreen controller and its recently updated V2 software. This isn&#8217;t just about the Lemur &#8211; it illustrates what&#8217;s possible when the musical device and the controller can flow freely out of a musician&#8217;s imagination. That could apply to hardware or software designs well beyond the Lemur.</p>
<p>Mikael BjÃ¶rk of Sweden responded with a terrific example, a &#8220;dynamic&#8221; sequencer available to all Lemur users via JazzMutant. The open-ended screen layout of the Lemur has allowed the creator to provide all kinds of unusual control over morphing beats, with your fingertips manipulating simulated physics as beats twist around you. It&#8217;s not just electronica and sampling and DJing, either &#8211; he also has an incredible clip working with a very talented vocalist. It sounds markedly different from the more conventional, Loopstation-style loop performance.</p>
<p><a href="http://flickr.com/photos/bjarkebech/2495338994/"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/2495338994_1ba76984d6.jpg?v=0"></a></p>
<div class="imgcaption">Photo (<a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/deed.en">CC</a>) <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/bjarkebech/">bjarkebech</a>.</div>
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<blockquote><p>DyNAmic is a sophisticated step sequencer managed by a Max patch, and tightly connected to a Live rack. The Live rack consisting of two Simpler devices containing basic sine waves for low and high percussions, a Simpler containing noise for your hi-hats, and one containing a square wave for your bass sounds. In addition, each Simpler feeds an Autofilter and Redux for effects modulation, all of this being controlled from your Lemur of course.</p></blockquote>
<p>Template created by MikaÃ«l BjÃ¶rk aka Lo-Fi Massahkah.<br />
<a href="http://www.lofimassahkah.net">http://www.lofimassahkah.net</a></p>
<p>What he says in a separate post on his blog sums up a lot of what I have to say about sequencers and samplers, too:</p>
<blockquote><p>Sequencing. Sequencing. Sequencing.</p>
<p>You&rsquo;d think that that&rsquo;s all I&rsquo;m about. Perhaps. Sequencers are fun when you can&rsquo;t really play an instrument. They might also be fun if you CAN play an instrument. I like my new sequencer &#8211; and I hope you&rsquo;ll like it too.</p></blockquote>
<p>See: <a href="http://www.lofimassahkah.net/LFM/ongoing/Poster/2008/3/25_Hip_to_be_square_2.html">Hip to be Square</a></p>
<p>The upcoming release of Max for Live should mean that Live can work more seamlessly with the Lemur and the control configuration &#8212; more on that soon. But this doesn&#8217;t have to even be about Live; I imagine we&#8217;ll see other setups moving this direction, too.</p>
<p>And having an open music controller means that, pricey as the Lemur is, you get added value from this kind of artist contribution. (See also: monome, on <a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/tag/monome">CDM</a> or the <a href="http://monome.org">monome project site</a>.) You can use this sequencer layout as is &#8212; use it in a different way musically &#8212; or modify it, or create your own. The whole patch and extensive how-tos are right on JazzMutant&#8217;s site:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jazzmutant.com/workshop_templateslist.php?id=dynamic">JazzMutant Workshop: DyNAmic</a></p>
<p>So, cool as that is, I&#8217;m sure many of you were expecting the glitchy beat modulations that result. Here&#8217;s a related project that moves in a very different direction. </p>
<p><object width="579" height="437"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=2248287&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=1&amp;color=CC0000&amp;fullscreen=1" /><embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=2248287&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=1&amp;color=CC0000&amp;fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="579" height="437"></embed></object><br /><a href="http://vimeo.com/2248287">Schack &#038; Wetterberg Live looping</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user454089">Lo-Fi Massahkah</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Esben Schack and Andreas Wetterberg doing a set on CafÃ© Zusammen in Copenhagen. Esben on vocals and guitar, Andreas on Live (looping) and Lemur. </p></blockquote>
<p>And for more of this stuff, you can follow the Vimeo feed:<br />
<a href="http://www.vimeo.com/user454089">http://www.vimeo.com/user454089</a></p>
<p>Not much to add &#8211; when the tech is working right, your traditional musicianship (if you&#8217;re lucky enough to have it) can come out. And while the occasional touchscreen tap may not seem as dynamic by comparison, I think the way to think of the Lemur is as a compositional device &#8211; the vocalist is the real &#8220;player,&#8221; in a conventional sense, whereas the Lemur is acting as a composer &#8212; remixer, however you want to think of it &#8212; in real-time.</p>
<p>My respect for the Lemur has really grown as it has matured; the folks at JazzMutant have addressed some of my design complaints. Its cost is, like most boutique instruments that aren&#8217;t made in huge quantities, a premium &#8211; no argument there. Likewise, you can sacrifice some of that unique design and get a cheap commodity device. In the end, I think there&#8217;s a value in both. To me, the more important thing is what people are doing musically. So I&#8217;ll be sure to follow both &#8211; and hopefully share some how-to people for our Lemur owners and DIY touchscreen users (or other controllers) alike. Even if you just have a box with a few knobs on it, it is possible to move in some new directions. </p>
<p>Got more examples? We&#8217;d love to see them.</p>
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		<title>Ready to Learn Max/MSP/Jitter? Full-Week Intensive in NYC</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We get the &#8220;where do I go to learn this stuff&#8221; question a lot in the inbox. With Max for Live coming later this year, bringing the powers of Max to Ableton Live, I imagine the hunger for knowledge on that tool will be all the greater. (At the same time, I think the growing [...]]]></description>
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<p>We get the &#8220;where do I go to learn this stuff&#8221; question a lot in the inbox. With Max for Live coming later this year, bringing the powers of Max to Ableton Live, I imagine the hunger for knowledge on that tool will be all the greater. (At the same time, I think the growing popularity of DIY tools means that it won&#8217;t make alternative tools like SuperCollider, Pd, Csound and the like <em>less</em> popular &#8212; I think we&#8217;ll see a growing trend toward all of these tools, provided we can show folks how to use them and get better at them ourselves!)</p>
<p>I know one route that has been successful for many people is the coursework at Harvestworks, the storied research and study center in New York. I can heartily endorse this one and say that, while I know and am friends with all the faculty, I have absolutely no investment in this. Dafna Naphtali, Hans Tammen, and Zach Seldess will all be teaching week-long intensives at Harvestworks in Manhattan. They&#8217;re not cheap &#8211; $1275 for the whole week &#8211; but I know some people have even flown to New York from other parts of the world to study up. </p>
<p>And what does all this mean? Well, it means you can turn <a href="http://www.zacharyseldess.com/works.html">Street Fighter, the game, into an improvisational ballet</a> as instructor Zachary Seldess has done (above). Among other things, of course.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s all out of your budget, don&#8217;t worry; we&#8217;ll have some other learning resources for you soon. But for those of you who can take the plunge, here are some details:<span id="more-4881"></span></p>
<p>(apologies for copy-and-paste, which I always smugly say I don&#8217;t do, but I&#8217;m in a rush)</p>
<blockquote><p>HARVESTWORKS DIGITAL MEDIA ARTS CENTER, NEW YORK</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;> MAX/MSP/JITTER FULL WEEK INTENSIVE COURSE</p>
<p>Dafna Naphtali / Zachary Seldess / Hans Tammen<br />
Mondays through Fridays 10am to 6pm<br />
Section A: March 23 through 27<br />
Section B: August 31 through September 4</p>
<p>Cost: $1275 (incl. Harvestworks Membership)</p>
<p>Location: Harvestworks (http://www.harvestworks.org)<br />
596 Broadway #602<br />
New York City, NY 10012 (at Houston St)<br />
Subway: F/V Broadway/Lafayette, 6 Bleecker, W/R Prince</p>
<p>From its central SoHo location in New York City, Harvestworks brings together innovative practitioners from all branches of the digital arts, and provides a vital context and catalyst for creativity in the field. For the last thirty years we have offered artists on-site recording studios, programming services, workshops, classes and one-on-one tutorials in emerging technologies supporting the pioneers of computer music with equipment and instruction. As a tool for artists, Max has been a central part of the Harvestworks program for almost 20 years. We offer regularly scheduled year-round classes and workshops on a wide variety of topics relating to Max/MSP and Jitter; as well as our Certificate Program, a flexible course of one-on-one instruction.</p>
<p>Now, Harvestworks is offering a full-week, 40hr crash course in the basics of Max/MSP and Jitter, run by veteran Max programmer Dafna Naphtali, Harvestworks engineer and teacher Zachary Seldess, and Harvestworks&#8217; Deputy Director Hans Tammen. The course is designed for beginners who want to get a head start with this software package. The course may be especially appealing to artists living outside of New York City who don&#8217;t have the opportunity to learn Max in their own hometown and who would enjoy a week in New York City.</p>
<p>The cost of the course is $1200, plus $75 for the annual Harvestworks membership that is required to take the course. The courses are Mondays through Fridays 10am to 6pm. Working in our computer lab after 6pm can also be arranged. Lecture demonstrations will alternate with practice time, and some of our Max-savvy interns can be available to assist during practice time. Workstations with Max/MSP/Jitter will be available, but it is also recommended that you bring your own laptop. The course will provide lots of practice and sample patches. Students enrolled in Max/MSP/Jitter related classes at Harvestworks are eligible for Cycling 74&#8217;s educational discount when purchasing the software. The course is limited to 10 students.</p>
<p>We will not provide meals or snacks for the course, but can point to lots of cheap dining places in the neighborhood. We also cannot provide accommodations, but can help with posting requests or bringing you in contact with other artists who might be able to help.</p>
<p>To sign up for the course, or if you have further questions, please call Hans Tammen at 212-431-1130 ext 13, or go to our webstore at<br />
http://www.harvestworks.org/cms/index.php/Classes/Classes-new.html<br />
In his interview on Cycling74&#8217;s website, Hans Tammen gives a few insights into Max teaching at Harvestworks: http://www.cycling74.com/story/2008/9/15/113650/347</p>
<p>MAX CRASH COURSE OUTLINE:</p>
<p>Day 1 &#8211; The Basics: Objects vs. messages vs. comments; ordering of operations; math in Max; scaling and mapping ranges of numbers; playing sound files.<br />
Day 2 &#8211; Basics of modular programming; live audio input; recording sound files; simple data storage.<br />
Day 3 &#8211; Controlled chaos; useful GUI objects; more data storage; basics of synthesis.<br />
Day 4: Interfacing with the outside world. Overview of MIDI, the HI object (game controllers), Wii controller, the Harvestworks Sensor Station, using a Wacom tablet. Wireless Miditron. Data storage.<br />
Day 5: Introduction to Jitter: Jitter matrix; basic matrix processing; playing and basic manipulation of QuickTime movies; basics of Open GL.</p>
<p>INSTRUCTOR BIOS:</p>
<p>DAFNA NAPHTALI has been a Max teacher and programmer at Harvestworks since 1995. She earned a degree in Music Technology at NYU.  She was Chief Engineer of the NYU Music Technology Studios until 1998, and has taught Max there as an adjunct instructor since 1996. Naphtali is also an academic advisor for both undergraduate and graduate students in NYU&#8217;s Music Technology program. She was a programmer for two years for many artists and her own projects at multi-channel sound gallery Engine 27. As a composer, writing custom Max/MSP programs since 1992 has enabled her to perform and compose using her laptop-based noise/audio processing &ldquo;instrument&rdquo; to alter the sound of her singing, vocalisms, personalized recordings as well as the sound of any musician playing with her. She has received commissions and awards from New York Foundation for the Arts, New York State Council on the Arts, Meet the Composer, Experimental TV Center, American Composers Forum,  Brecht Forum, and has held residencies at STEIM (Holland), Music OMI and iEAR at Rensselaer  Polytechnical  Institute. <a href="http://www.dafna.info">http://www.dafna.info</a></p>
<p>ZACHARY SELDESS currently works at Harvestworks as a resident Programmer/Teacher, and at Brooklyn College CUNY as adjunct faculty. He also works at The CUNY Graduate Center&rsquo;s New media Lab creating interactive virtual sound environments in 3D Game Space using the Torque Game Engine and Max/MSP. He is currently pursuing a PhD in composition at The Graduate Center CUNY where his primary teachers are Amnon Wolman and Morton Subotnick. Previously he worked as a performer, composer, private teacher and adjunct professor at Wilbur Wright College and Harold Washington College in Chicago. As a composer, Zachary has collaborated with artists in many mediums including theater, dance, film, and poetry. He spends much of his time these days creating interactive media artwork, particularly within the Max/MSP/Jitter programming environment. Programming projects include work with Jane Rigler on Manhattan New Music Project&#8217;s &#8220;Music Cre8tor&#8221;, a sensor/software music-creating interface for developmentally challenged children.<br />
<a href="http://www.zacharyseldess.com/">http://www.zacharyseldess.com/</a></p>
<p>HANS TAMMEN is currently Deputy Director at Harvestworks, and is responsible for the oversight of all projects related to Max/MSP/Jitter and Physical Computing, as well as managing the education program and the studios. In this position he encounters the projects of approx. 250 clients, students and Artist In Residence per year. After an initial degree in Adult Education in 1988 he taught as an adjunct at Kassel University, and as part of his works as a union technology consultant from 1992 to 2000 he held about 120 one to five-day seminars using modern seminar techniques like metaplan, role-plays, and others. As a composer/guitarist he is best known for his &#8220;Endangered Guitar&#8221; works, interfacing his guitar with Max/MSP. Signal To Noise called his works &#8220;&#8230;a killer tour de force of post-everything guitar damage&#8221;, All Music Guide recommended him: &#8220;&#8230;clearly one of the best experimental guitarists to come forward during the 1990s.&#8221; <a href="http://www.tammen.org">http://www.tammen.org</a>.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Cycling &#8216;74 Reveals Max For Live: Make Max Patches that Integrate with Ableton</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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It&#8217;s been a long, long wait, but it&#8217;s now official: Ableton and Cycling &#8216;74 have collaborated on Max for Live, which integrates Max/MSP with Ableton Live. There&#8217;s tons of information on the Cycling &#8216;74 site, and I&#8217;ll be doing some follow-up interviews for CDM soon with more details, but here&#8217;s the overview.
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<p>It&rsquo;s been a long, long wait, but it&rsquo;s now official: Ableton and Cycling &lsquo;74 have collaborated on Max for Live, which integrates Max/MSP with Ableton Live. There&rsquo;s tons of information on the Cycling &lsquo;74 site, and I&rsquo;ll be doing some follow-up interviews for CDM soon with more details, but here&rsquo;s the overview.</p>
<p><strong>What is Max for Live?</strong></p>
<p>Max is an add-on product for Ableton Live 8, which will be announced in a press conference shortly. Note that it isn&rsquo;t just Max or just Live &ndash; it&rsquo;s a separate, add-on product. No pricing information yet; availability later in 2009.</p>
<p><strong>What Will You Be Able to Build?</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Step sequencers</li>
<li>Instruments</li>
<li>Effects</li>
<li>Stuff to control Live</li>
<li>New hardware integration features, with your own instrument / effect / sequencer creations, <em>and</em> with Live itself &ndash; think, build your own hardware mappings</li>
</ul>
<p>What I&rsquo;ve heard is that via native controls, you&rsquo;ll be able to control anything you can control in Live with a mouse, down to moving warp markers around. That&rsquo;s obviously huge, but expect the specifics of these details (and eventually, how to do it) on this site over the coming days and months. I&rsquo;m also eager to find out if it&rsquo;ll be possible to use Max for Live with OSC inside Live.</p>
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<p><strong>How Integrated is It?</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Native Live API controls: </strong>Max now gets a native API for controlling Live, with live.object, live.path, live.observer objects. This is actually arguably the most important part, because it means you could in fact use Max to control Live in place of the Python-based Live API. That raises a bunch of questions and unfortunately, this is the part of Max for Live about which we know the least, but you know this site will be all over the details as soon as we can get hold of them. (The only bad side of this that I can see is that it may mean fewer options for Live users who want to use their own development tools instead of Max, but I&rsquo;ll investigate.)</li>
<li><strong>Preview mode: </strong>This lets you edit in Max while devices continue processing audio/MIDI as if running inside Live. It updates in-place in Live&rsquo;s device view. That&rsquo;s been possible previously using things like Native Instruments&rsquo; Reaktor plug-in or the combination of FL Studio and Synthmaker, but it&rsquo;s certainly new to the Max environment.</li>
<li><strong>UI controls: </strong>You can create Ableton-style interface controls for your patches. This is really extraordinary: you build a patch as normal, and what Max 5 calls its Presentation Mode now looks like an Ableton-standard UI in the program, with full support for color schemes. You even get descriptive text in Info View when you mouse over something, just like the official Ableton stuff.</li>
<li><strong>Multiple undo: </strong>Undo in Live applies to Devices created with Max for Live.</li>
<li><strong>Tempo sync, sample-accurate automation: </strong>I need to get the details of this, but normally syncing tempo is a major pain using MIDI, ReWire, or even plug-ins &ndash; this appears to allow more direct integration.</li>
<li><strong>A step sequencer object: </strong>Previous efforts like SynthMaker in FL have made it pretty easy to build instruments and effects, and it&rsquo;s certainly possible to build sequencers in tools like Reaktor or Pd. But what&rsquo;s unique about Max in Live is that it provides a sequencer with a Live-style interface that integrates with tempo.</li>
<li><strong>File/preset integration: </strong>This is where it gets really awesome &ndash; juggling Reaktor patches, for instance, can be a pain.</li>
<li><strong>Web collaboration: </strong>Ableton Live 8 adds web collaboration options, which extends to Max devices.<strong>&#160;</strong></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>What Devices Are Included?</strong></p>
<p><img src="http://media.createdigitalmedia.net/cdmu/images/2009/01/stepsequencer.jpg" /> </p>
<p>So far, you get a nice set of Devices to use with Max for Live:</p>
<ul>
<li>Step Sequencer, with four 16-note sequences, shift, random, MIDI control</li>
<li>Loop Shifter, with automated mapping and playback, for Max-style looping</li>
<li>An extension for the new Akai APC40 that turns it into a step-sequencer editor for Live MIDI clips</li>
</ul>
<p>Now, note, on that last item, you <em>don&rsquo;t</em> necessarily need to run out and buy Live 8 and Max for Live <em>and</em> a new APC (though there are worse things to happen to someone). The new features should open up new controller integration features and custom software-controller creations for all kinds of hardware. For instance, the monome (<a href="http://monome.org">site</a> | <a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/tag/monome">cdm tag</a>) should greatly benefit from the features in Max for Live. It&rsquo;s already got a rabid community of Max patchers behind it, and there&rsquo;s no reason you couldn&rsquo;t do something wild with Live, Max for Live, and the monome &ndash; including additional features you can hack into the monome, like tilt sensors/accelerometers/IR range finders. (Yum.) </p>
<p>And in fact, the monome community is already on it without the aid of Max for Live: <a href="http://monome.org/articles/2009/01/03/pages/">Pages</a>, built in Java, is an elaborate app for automating access to some of Live&rsquo;s power. You can imagine that the availability of Max for Live should mean even more of this sort of thing.</p>
<p><strong>Where to Read Up</strong></p>
<p>I&rsquo;ll update this as more information comes through, but here&rsquo;s what to get where:</p>
<p>David&rsquo;s <a href="http://www.cycling74.com/story/2009/1/15/114420/967">Tools for Creating Devices in Live</a> is probably the most important read, as it shows how the integration works &ndash; already juicy, though we need to find out more about those native controls for actually manipulating Live</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cycling74.com/story/2009/1/15/112631/799">David Zicarelli&#8217;s &quot;Perspective on Integrating Max and Live&quot;</a> talks about the genesis of the project and what it means to existing Max users</p>
<p>If anyone stops by NAMM booth 6314, we&rsquo;d love some other perspectives.</p>
<p><P><strong>What this stuff means:</strong></p>
<p><P>Max for Live is best understood as Max/MSP/Jitter <em>in</em> Live. Here&#8217;s a full explanation, with more details to come on exactly how they integrate:</p>
<p><a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/16/max-for-live-is-max-in-live-msp-jitter-osc-and-all-the-open-source-side/">Max For Live is Max In Live: MSP, Jitter, OSC, and All; The Open Source Side?</a></p>
<p>And yes, I will be following up on open source alternatives, because they have their own strengths and weaknesses.</p>
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		<title>Ableton: You&#8217;ll Be Able to Customize Akai&#8217;s APC40 Using Max for Live</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ The APC40 is physically completely unlike the monome, but one important way it did learn from the experience of Live users&#8217; desire to hack: you&#8217;ll be able to make your own, custom setups, using Max.
Ableton founder and CEO Gerhard Behles explains to Akai in an interview released this morning: 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style="display: inline; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px" src="http://media.createdigitalmedia.net/cdmu/images/2009/01/apc40sm.jpg" align="right" /> The <a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/01/15/akai-apc40-ableton-live-controller-in-detail-plug-and-play-live-control-for-everyone/">APC40</a> is physically completely unlike the monome, but one important way it did learn from the experience of Live users&rsquo; desire to hack: you&rsquo;ll be able to make your own, custom setups, using Max.</p>
<p>Ableton founder and CEO Gerhard Behles <a href="http://www.akaipro.com/gerhardinterview">explains to Akai in an interview released this morning</a>: </p>
<blockquote><p>Owners of the APC40 who also own Max for Live can change the way the APC40 controls Live, and completely customize their experience. This means things like step sequencers and drum rack support and other things that only feel right with hardware will now be available for people who own these two great products. The boundaries of what you can do with complete customization and hundreds of LEDs are infinite.</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m guessing at this point you might like to know what &quot;Max for Live&quot; is. Suffice to say, Cycling &lsquo;74 said that they&rsquo;d show their collaboration with Ableton at the NAMM show, and there&rsquo;s an Ableton press conference later today. </p>
<p>My main question on this: how much control do you have? Is there anything special about the APC40, or is what Gerhard <em>really</em> saying that you can make your own weird step sequencers with whatever hardware you want using Max for Live? (For that matter, there&rsquo;s no reason you can&rsquo;t do this right now using Reaktor or Pd or a number of other tools that also work with Live.) My sense is actually that this <em>is</em> different, but in terms of what objects are specifically in there that enable it, we&rsquo;re still waiting to find out (and may actually have more of those specifics after NAMM).</p>
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