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		<title>Listen: Monome-Made Music, from tehn to Daedelus</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[makingthenoise (mtn); photo by Joshua Schnable.
It&#8217;s actually paradoxical to talk about music &#8220;made&#8221; on the monome. The monome, the open controller, is after all, a grid of buttons. It has no sound of its own. But as such, perhaps its design as a blank canvas &#8211; without any indication of how a single button may [...]]]></description>
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<div class="imgcaption">makingthenoise (mtn); photo by Joshua Schnable.</div>
<p>It&#8217;s actually paradoxical to talk about music &#8220;made&#8221; on the <a href="http://monome.org">monome</a>. The monome, the open controller, is after all, a grid of buttons. It has no sound of its own. But as such, perhaps its design as a blank canvas &#8211; without any indication of how a single button may function, without a screenprinted logo or name &#8211; that allows computer musicians to project upon it whatever they wish. The monome, more than any other object designed since the emergence of computer performance, is emblematic of what digital music can be. It&#8217;s an empty digital grid, like viewing the world of music software under a microscope.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also, therefore, possible for the monome to disappear, leaving behind a spectrum of what people are doing with music on computers. That was what was most striking to me about the music of the monomeet on Saturday in Princeton, NJ: it covered a range of techniques, from glitchy granulation to breakbeat rhythms derived from turntables. Listen to what </p>
<p>In the lineup: tehn (aka Brian Crabtree), the instrument&#8217;s creator, playing on the Max/MSP patch mlr that is partly responsible for the monome&#8217;s set, through Daedelus, Brian&#8217;s friend who helped raise awareness of the strange box of buttons around the world. There are also fantastic sounds from mtn (makingthenoise), picture in the photos here, Edison, ro, %, and altitude sickness.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what the live sets sounded like. Bet you you can&#8217;t hear the monome.</p>
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<p>More photos from the event:<span id="more-7849"></span></p>
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<div class="imgcaption">makingthenoise (mtn); photo by Joshua Schnable.</div>
<p><img src="http://createdigitalmusic.com/images/2009/10/tehn.jpg" alt="tehn" title="tehn" width="580" height="447" class="alignright size-full wp-image-7855" /></p>
<div class="imgcaption">tehn in action; photo by me.</div>
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		<title>Music Hackday Goodies: Robot-Driven Radio, Free Chordal Synth, Lyrics by Decade, More</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Music Bore &#8211; Video 2 from Nicholas Humfrey on Vimeo.
&#8220;I&#8217;m sorry, Dave, I can&#8217;t allow you to listen to Coldplay.&#8221;
What would radio be like if playlists were not only robotic, but had robot DJs pulling information from the Interwebs dynamically? That&#8217;s the question asked by the winning team at London&#8217;s Music Hackday last weekend, [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/5561292">The Music Bore &#8211; Video 2</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user481076">Nicholas Humfrey</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m sorry, Dave, I can&#8217;t allow you to listen to Coldplay.&#8221;</p>
<p>What would radio be like if playlists were not only robotic, but had robot DJs pulling information from the Interwebs dynamically? That&#8217;s the question asked by the winning team at London&#8217;s Music Hackday last weekend, which created an epic mashup of data sources to produce a voice-synthesized IRC chatbot that researches and plays music for you.</p>
<p><a href="http://musichackday.org/hacks.php?page=MusicBore">Music Bore</a></p>
<p>Music Bore was just one of a number of projects developed in the weekend of musical hacking, some for listening, and at least one (a fantastic and free synth plug-in) for what we really like &#8211; production. With some of the world&#8217;s top musical coders in attendance, the results were amazing, even if not all projects were entirely finished. (Hey, that&#8217;s why they call it hacking.)</p>
<p>You can check out the <a href="http://musichackday.org/info/Hacks">full list on the wiki</a>, but here are some favorites &#8212; and if you were there, do shout out to us as you put more documentation up of the event and projects.</p>
<p><img src="http://createdigitalmusic.com/images/2009/07/HARMONYBOX.jpg" alt="HARMONYBOX" title="HARMONYBOX" width="580" height="362" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-6486" /><span id="more-6485"></span></p>
<p><strong>Harmony Box</strong> by Dave and Mike is a synth plug-in for Mac (AU/VST) and Windows (VST, thus also Linux) that quickly creates lovely chords. I love the simplicity of the instrument &#8211; really lovely work, gents &#8211; and I think I may actually use it on a project. They accept donations if you&#8217;d like to see this instrument mature. Of course, with everyone else doing Web mash-ups, this didn&#8217;t win, but it&#8217;s more up our alley. (Web 2.0 &#8211; meh, whatever.)</p>
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<div style="padding-top: 5px;"><a href="http://soundcloud.com/codezero/second-clip/">Second Clip</a> by <a href="codezero">CodeZero</a></div>
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<div style="padding-top: 5px;"><a href="http://soundcloud.com/codezero/clip-3-1/">Clip 3</a> by <a href="codezero">CodeZero</a></div>
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<p>The synth has its own project blog:<br />
<a href="http://davenoise.com/blog/">http://davenoise.com/blog/</a></p>
<p>Other winners (in our book, and as recommended by Harmony Box co-creator Dave Gamble):</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://musichackday.org/hacks.php?page=LonelyHarps">LonelyHarps</a></strong> by Jamie Hollingworth and David Padbury is a Last.fm-based tool concept that helps you find dates &#8211; and choose the right tracks to set the mood &#8211; using music for compatibility. And, really, do you really want to date someone who doesn&#8217;t have musically compatible tastes? (I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s just because they spotted lots of hotties on Last.fm, but&#8230;) The only bad news: the app didn&#8217;t actually get fully made yet, but we&#8217;ll stay tuned, gents. They do have impressive-looking formulas.</p>
<p><img src="http://createdigitalmusic.com/images/2009/07/1980s_cloud.jpg" alt="1980s_cloud" title="1980s_cloud" width="580" height="334" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-6489" /></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://musichackday.org/hacks.php?page=Music+Zeitgeist">Music Zeitgeist</a></strong> by Cristiano Betta visualizes lyrics by decade, such as the 1980s, above. (Yeah, it was all about wanting and karma, the 80s.) <a href="http://zeitgeist.cristianobetta.com/">Check out the project directly</a>.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://musichackday.org/index.php?page=Theremag">Theremag</a></strong> by Jono Cole and Jonty Wareing of Last.fm is actually the app I most want to see, but there&#8217;s no documentation yet. It&#8217;s a Theremin emulator on the Google Android-based HTC G1, with an unusual sensor &#8212; the built-in magnetometer (the one that normally acts as the compass) which was used to pitch-bend Michael Jackson. Once they get documentation up, expect to see it here. (I love that magnet sensor, too. Good fun.)</p>
<p><img src="http://createdigitalmusic.com/images/2009/07/mhd-imv.jpg" alt="mhd-imv" title="mhd-imv" width="200" height="382" class="alignright size-full wp-image-6492" align="right" hspace="10" /><strong><a href="http://musichackday.org/index.php?page=iPhone+Music+Visualiser">iPhone Music Visualizer</a></strong> by George J Cook and Matt Biddulph grabs Soundcloud files, analyzes them with Echonest (which recently got an iPhone-friendly Cocoa API), and then plays them back with a visualizer. It looks like a great place to get started if you&#8217;re planning on building something similar yourself. </p>
<p>In fact, it&#8217;s well worth checking out the wiki not only because some of the projects have (okay, sometimes-sloppy) source code, but point you at the resources you&#8217;d need to tackle something like this yourself if you&#8217;re a coder. And the event prompted a lot of folks from Last.fm to Echonest and BBC and others to get their APIs together.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a terrific idea, and it sounds like we need another music hackday here. (Press releases, ahem, claimed this was the &#8220;first&#8221; music hackday, even though we&#8217;ve done a <a href="http://hackday.noisepages.com">global event ourselves</a>, but who cares &#8212; let&#8217;s do more!) </p>
<p>New York would make a nice base of operations for a similar event because a lot of folks with interesting APIs are here (or in nearby East Coast towns), but I think it&#8217;d be great to get more people online and not just in one locale.</p>
<p>What think you, sirs and madames? Tips on how we could make an online event work?</p>
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		<title>Calling Samplers, Sharers: Creative Commons Now in SoundCloud</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[SoundCloud, the music and sound sharing service we saw launch this month has added a very important feature: support for different licenses. When you upload tracks, you can elect to protect your work with a conventional copyright or opt instead for a Creative Commons license. That&#8217;s an important feature I&#8217;d like to see all these [...]]]></description>
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<p>SoundCloud, the <a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/10/09/soundcloud-here-like-flickr-for-music/">music and sound sharing service we saw launch this month</a> has added a very important feature: support for different licenses. When you upload tracks, you can elect to protect your work with a conventional copyright or opt instead for a Creative Commons license. That&#8217;s an important feature I&#8217;d like to see all these services support. The one thing Creative Commons and conventional copyright advocates agree on is that being <em>explicit</em> about what rights you want to your work is essential.</p>
<p>Naturally, this means not only that you can upload works, but that SoundCloud could soon become a rich repository for CC-licensed work to use as video soundtracks or sample, in the way that Flickr&#8217;s CC search has fired up lots of (legal) image use. We have heard some dissatisfaction from readers about SoundCloud&#8217;s pricing scheme, but this announcement means SoundCloud remains one to watch &#8212; even if you&#8217;re not personally uploading to it.</p>
<p>SoundCloud also came up with a unique idea: they created a drop box for CC-licensed works which they played at a party.</p>
<p>You can read about the new licenses and other news tidbits on the SoundCloud blog:<br />
<a href="http://blog.soundcloud.com/2008/10/17/cc/">Introducing SoundCloud Creative Commons Support</a></p>
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		<title>Bandcamp versus SoundCloud: Online Music Sharing Services, Fight!</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/10/13/bandcamp-versus-soundcloud-online-music-sharing-services-fight/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The wonderful wire to the ear beats me to raising the question of which online music sharing service should rule them all, Bandcamp or the just-public SoundCloud.
I&#8217;ll be taking both for a test drive, but as I&#8217;m looking at them, any other services we should be considering for a prize fight? Any first impressions on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wonderful <a href="http://www.wiretotheear.com/2008/10/12/bandcamp-and-soundcloud-screencasts/">wire to the ear</a> beats me to raising the question of which online music sharing service should rule them all, Bandcamp or the just-public SoundCloud.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be taking both for a test drive, but as I&#8217;m looking at them, any other services we should be considering for a prize fight? Any first impressions on which you like best?</p>
<p>Be sure to <a href="http://www.wiretotheear.com/2008/10/12/bandcamp-and-soundcloud-screencasts/">vote in wire to the ear&#8217;s poll</a>, too; we&#8217;ll be watching.</p>
<p><object width="580" height="326"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=1739268&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=1&amp;color=FF7700&amp;fullscreen=1" /><embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=1739268&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=1&amp;color=FF7700&amp;fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="580" height="326"></embed></object><br /><a href="http://vimeo.com/1739268?pg=embed&amp;sec=1739268">Bandcamp Screencast</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user740676?pg=embed&amp;sec=1739268">Ethan Diamond</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com?pg=embed&amp;sec=1739268">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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		<title>What Do You Get from a Free SoundCloud Account? Co-Founder Explains</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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There&#8217;s been some confusion from our readers and existing beta testers of SoundCloud (see their forums / login required) about what you can get with a free account on the service. 
Co-founder Eric Wahlforss answers some of these concerns in comments. With a free account, you will be able to:

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<p>There&rsquo;s been some confusion from our readers and existing beta testers of SoundCloud (<a href="http://soundcloud.com/forums/sc-announcements/what-will-really-happen-in-5-days" target="_blank">see their forums</a> / login required) about what you can get with a free account on the service. </p>
<p>Co-founder Eric Wahlforss answers some of these concerns in comments. With a free account, you will be able to:</p>
<ul>
<li>Send/upload up to five tracks a month, of any length/size </li>
<li>You can upload as many tracks as you like, but only your ten most recent tracks will be visible to others (unless you delete tracks). <em>No tracks are deleted</em> &ndash; you can upgrade/downgrade at will. </li>
<li>You get a DropBox, and the most recent five tracks dropped will appear (again, if you delete tracks as you listen to them, you&rsquo;ll see more) </li>
<li>Make contact lists with up to 20 contacts </li>
<li>See basic stats </li>
</ul>
<p>So, the free account does look reasonably usable for light use. That said, they are clearly trying to push people to pro accounts, which start at EUR9 / mo. (Even separate USD pricing would help, I think &hellip; even though the dollar has recovered a bit in recent weeks, unlike our &ndash; ahem &ndash; stock exchange.) Eric does promise more is coming in those pro accounts to entice you, if you feel the value proposition isn&rsquo;t there yet.</p>
<p>Full details:</p>
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<p>From comments:</p>
<blockquote><p>Peter, this is Eric, one of the founders of SoundCloud. Thanks for a great post.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been our vision from the very beginning to make SoundCloud more or less ad-free and totally streamlined for the needs of musicians and labels. Like other websites that provide real value to people/companies and unlike slow/bloated/ad-ridden/&quot;free&quot;-but-oh-we&#8217;ll-waste-your-time-instead sites, we do charge for our services.</p>
<p>Again to clarify, there will *of course* exist a free account. Sorry about the vague communication on this so far. It will hopefully be clear tomorrow. The free account will have certain limitations that I will list here (you&#8217;re really among the first ones to know).</p>
<p>You can:</p>
<ul>
<li>Send 5 tracks/month </li>
<li>See the 10 latest sent tracks (they will also show on your profile) </li>
<li>Get a DropBox, but you&#8217;ll only see the last 5 tracks dropped (you can always remove tracks to see more) </li>
<li>Make contact lists with up to 20 people in them </li>
</ul>
<p>The free account will work fine for quite a lot of use-cases. And you will always be able to go back to it, should you realize you don&#8217;t need a PRO accounts. Easy. We won&#8217;t delete any of your stored tracks, or anything else for that matter.</p>
<p>I should also mention that we&#8217;re working on a few *very* cool things that will land in the PRO accounts later this fall, like sets uploading/sharing, versioning of tracks, and more&#8230;</p>
<p>cheers // eric [currently working the nightshift on perfecting the site before the release...]</p>
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<div class="imgcaption">Dropboxes from SoundCloud can be added to your site.</div>
<p>I was confused on the stats portion and track limitations, so I asked Eric to clarify for us. </p>
<p><em>Do you get the same view of stats in the free account as you do in the light pro account?</em></p>
<blockquote><p>yes, the basic stats graphs as in the PRO light account, but not info on exactly who listened and who downloaded.</p>
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<p><em>What are the limitations on how many tracks you can upload?</em></p>
<blockquote><p>you can upload as many tracks as you want over time, but only 5 tracks per month. only the last 10 will actually be shown on your profile, but you can always &quot;unlock&quot; your account to show them all by upgrading to any PRO account. if you downgrade back to free then they will again be hidden so that only the last 10 are shown (just like on flickr). </p>
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<p>So, what do you get if you upgrade to the pro accounts? You lose the track limitations, for one, with 15 tracks per month (EUR9/mo) to unlimited tracks (EUR59/mo). With the EUR29+ accounts, you get enhanced support, more stats, and a branded dropbox, so it&rsquo;s clear those are aimed at labels, venues, and the like.</p>
<p>I expect there will still be some pricing skepticism, though. I&rsquo;m curious to hear &ndash; will the free account be enough for you? Any of you thinking you might pony up for one of the pro accounts? Or are you looking elsewhere?</p>
<p>We expect more changes to hit SoundCloud over the coming weeks, so we&rsquo;ll be watching. I think this is a really important development, and one worth researching. I&rsquo;m sure it&rsquo;ll have some competition, and we&rsquo;ll cover that, as well.</p>
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		<title>SoundCloud Here: Like Flickr For Music?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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SoundCloud, an online sharing community for sound and music, is now hours from public launch. I&#8217;ve been playing around with a closed beta for several months, and have to say, I&#8217;ve been really impressed. SoundCloud isn&#8217;t the first attempt to provide places to share music [...]]]></description>
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<p>SoundCloud, an online sharing community for sound and music, is now hours from public launch. I&rsquo;ve been playing around with a closed beta for several months, and have to say, I&rsquo;ve been really impressed. SoundCloud isn&rsquo;t the first attempt to provide places to share music files with others, but previous attempts have been lackluster when it comes to easy sharing, features necessary to make music listening more enjoyable, and upload capacity. Most importantly, none has accomplished the community &ldquo;stickiness&rdquo; that has been the cornerstone of successful media services like Flickr, Vimeo, and YouTube. In fact, there&rsquo;s been so much of a noise-to-signal problem with the Web space, I expect a lot of you have simply tuned out new Web services. There are some good reasons to pay attention to SoundCloud, though:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Singing telegram, anyone? </strong>Music on SoundCloud acts more like a messaging service. Tracks from people you&rsquo;re following appear in an inbox for you to sort through. You can even create a DropBox for other people, so this could be huge for people running labels or live events. (That&rsquo;s especially welcome now that a lot of people have given up on individually clicking myspace links to hear what someone sounds like.) </li>
<li><strong>Easier uploads and sharing: </strong>Getting files on the service in your favorite format, with whatever length you want, is a whole lot easier than on competing services. </li>
<li><strong>Smart player interaction: </strong>Services like this now live and die on their embeddable player. SoundCloud&rsquo;s is really clever and attractive. Download links are everywhere. Also, SoundCloud attacks the biggest problem with music &ndash; it&rsquo;s invisible. There&rsquo;s a waveform view, and people can comment on specific points in your music. That feature has been annoying in a lot of video players, but here comments appear only if you want them to, and I&rsquo;ve found them really helpful in getting feedback. (See my example track below, for instance.) </li>
<li><strong>Open API: </strong>A full <a href="http://soundcloud.com/api" target="_blank">API</a> means you can built interesting apps atop SoundCloud. Check out the lovely <a href="http://radioclouds.com/" target="_blank">Radioclouds</a> by Matas Petrikas for an example of how interesting this can be; source code is available. </li>
</ul>
<p>SoundCloud, indeed, seems to have all the kinds of features that made Flickr stand out from a crowd of photo services. Labels are already onboard, too: Compost, BPitch Control, and Goldie are already making it part of their workflow, says SoundCloud.</p>
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<p>One very significant missing feature: it&rsquo;s not yet possible to embed licenses in your music, so it&rsquo;s not possible to tell what&rsquo;s copyrighted and what&rsquo;s Creative Commons-licensed. SoundCloud founder Alexander Ljung tells us this feature is coming very soon, though, and as on Flickr, you&rsquo;ll be able to set a global default for your music, so if you want to release everything under a CC license, you can. That should make SoundCloud absolutely explode as a place for CC-licensed remixing.</p>
<p>Now, the only bad news: <strong>pro accounts are a bit pricey</strong> when compared to a service like Flickr, priced at EUR9-EUR59 each month. The EUR9/mo account is actually probably what most people will need: 15 tracks per month (that seems like plenty), plus basic stats, dropbox, and support. If you were a beta tester like me, you probably got a complimentary Light account through the beginning of next year. And importantly, there&rsquo;s <strong>no limit on file sizes</strong> on any of the accounts. That means you could easily upload 15 live/DJ sets a month, so no complaint here. My guess is that the rates are a reflection of what it costs now in bandwidth for an ad-free site. And you can always go for a free account and see how the service works. But I do expect <strong>price to be the major obstacle</strong> to this service&rsquo;s popularity. <em>Update: comment to that effect in, what, five minutes of me posting?</em></p>
<p>Alex and the team say they&rsquo;re CDM readers, and I&rsquo;ll get to meet with them next week while I&rsquo;m in Berlin. So if you&rsquo;ve got any questions or feedback, let us know. I&rsquo;d also love to see this stuff integrated more tightly in other communities; Facebook is there, for a start. Stay tuned.</p>
<p><a href="http://soundcloud.com/" target="_blank">SoundCloud</a></p>
<p><a href="http://soundcloud.com/tour" target="_blank">SoundCloud Tour</a></p>
<p><a href="http://blog.soundcloud.com/" target="_blank">SoundCloud Blog</a></p>
<p>Here&rsquo;s an example of my player (just an informal live improv set, not a full track). I need to go upload more content but plan to do that over the coming weeks. But it gives you a sense of how this works in action.</p>
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<div style="padding-top: 5px; height: 1em"><a style="color: #2681c5" href="http://soundcloud.com/peterkirn/2019-excerpt-live-set">2019 excerpt &#8211; live set &#8211; Peter Kirn</a> by <a style="color: #2681c5" href="http://soundcloud.com/peterkirn">peterkirn</a> </div>
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<p>Here&rsquo;s the upload interface, which I find quite usable. Note that you can also use SoundCloud for private files:</p>
<p><img src="http://media.createdigitalmedia.net/cdmu/images/2008/10/soundcloud_upload.png" /></p>
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