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		<title>SoundCloud Provides First Look at a New Interface [Gallery]</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 11:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For all you hear about the primacy of visual culture, you might not expect a Web service exclusively focused on sound to be a big hit. SoundCloud, however, has seen meteoric growth, hitting 10 million users in January. Its interface, however, hasn&#8217;t quite grown and matured at the same pace. We&#8217;ve seen a lovely-looking new &#8230; <a class="btn read-more" href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/05/soundcloud-provides-first-look-at-a-new-interface/">Continue &#8594;</a>]]></description>
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<p>For all you hear about the primacy of visual culture, you might not expect a Web service exclusively focused on sound to be a big hit. SoundCloud, however, has seen meteoric growth, hitting <a href="http://blog.soundcloud.com/2012/01/23/ten-million/">10 million users</a> in January. Its interface, however, hasn&#8217;t quite grown and matured at the same pace. We&#8217;ve seen a lovely-looking new HTML5-based player embed, but the main site hasn&#8217;t gotten the same refresh &#8211; until now.</p>
<p>Yesterday evening, SoundCloud provided press and some members of the public with a first view of the new site. The facelift is organized around even greater focus on SoundCloud&#8217;s signature waveform view, with a greater emphasis on sharing and real-time updating, as well as more easily managing profiles.</p>
<p>In short, everything is a lot cleaner &#8211; a <em>whole</em> lot cleaner &#8211; and more focused on actually listening to and sharing music.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s new:</p>
<ul>
<li>The Waveform is bigger and more prominent &#8211; and stripped of hated comment clutter &#8211; with a new navigational interface.</li>
<li>Profiles are redesigned for easier navigation.</li>
<li>&#8220;Reposts&#8221; now add to sharing mechanisms for tracks and sets.</li>
<li>Real-time updates show activity right away. (This seems to me a bit reminiscent of the direction taken by listening services like Spotify.)</li>
<li>Continuous playback. I&#8217;ve long used Chrome (and now Firefox) extension <a href="http://ex.fm/">ex.fm</a> for this feature, which even allows you to move between sites; it&#8217;s nice to see SoundCloud allow you to keep sounds playing in the background as you navigate, though.</li>
<li>Sets put collections of sounds into a single Waveform, in place of a playlist. This could be a solution for creating legal mixes for DJs and curators &#8211; or mixes of your own music &#8211; without running afoul of copyright restrictions by posting conventional DJ mixes. (That said, of course, you don&#8217;t get to actually mix and cross-fade. Now that&#8217;d be interesting.) </li>
<li>Streamlined navigation, with keyboard shortcuts, master volume control, and other features.</li>
<li>Improved search algorithm (a frequent source of complaints from readers to whom I&#8217;ve spoken), plus auto-complete/search suggestion.</li>
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<p><a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/files/2012/05/soundcloud_profile2.jpg"><img src="http://createdigitalmusic.com/files/2012/05/soundcloud_profile2-640x449.jpg" alt="" title="soundcloud_profile2" width="640" height="449" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-23848" /></a></p>
<div class="imgcaption">The redesigned SoundCloud profile. All screenshots courtesy SoundCloud.</div>
<p>So, when will you get all of this?  SoundCloud says the roll-out will take &#8220;months,&#8221; though they haven&#8217;t given a solid timeframe. Initially, &#8220;tens of thousands&#8221; of beta invites will be available; you can request one now via a dedicated minisite for the redesign. That&#8217;s a tiny fraction of the total user base, so we&#8217;ll see how easy it is to get into the queue; I&#8217;ll work on getting CDM in so we can at least report back. A public beta will come later this year, with a &#8220;full switchover&#8221; for everyone expected by the end of the year.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve gotten feedback from CDM readers about what they want out of SoundCloud, and initially, it doesn&#8217;t appear the redesign addresses all those concerns. It certainly looks prettier and more usable, and for public sharing, SoundCloud has been terrific. But readers have also requested easier ways to sell their music than are currently available. I&#8217;ve also heard from users &#8211; and found in my own experience &#8211; that private sharing and collaboration is relatively limited. (Chris Randall notes via Facebook that he prefers Dropbox for this purpose, particularly since they&#8217;ve added a player that works with private tracks.) We&#8217;ll see if any of these functional areas is addressed as SoundCloud rolls out new functionality, or if it becomes available via their API.</p>
<p>SoundCloud, for their part, does promise &#8220;new features,&#8221; and says that you&#8217;ll continue to have access to &#8220;existing features in the current version, such as upload and record.&#8221; I think it&#8217;s safe to say this brief preview doesn&#8217;t cover everything SoundCloud is developing in 2012.</p>
<p>My guess is, with so many cloud tools evolving, users will use a combination of tools to get their work done, collaborate, and share their music. Naturally, we&#8217;ll follow that closely to see if we can provide some useful information about how to get the most out of these tools.</p>
<p>What do you think of this first look at the new SoundCloud? And how do you use it? Let us know in comments.</p>
<p>More info / beta signup:<br />
<a href="http://next.soundcloud.com">next.soundcloud.com</a></p>
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		<title>Recue&#8217;s &#8220;Do Not Disturb&#8221;: Live Jam, Made in an Airport Hotel Room [Free Download]</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 19:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s like musical survival training. Quick: you&#8217;re stuck in a hotel. Can you make some music? Our friend Recue, aka Riku Annala, was unexpectedly being stranded in a hotel and made it into a musical opportunity. The results are damned fine listening. (Thank whatever act of God / airlines prompted this.) You can enjoy the &#8230; <a class="btn read-more" href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/04/recues-do-not-disturb-live-jam-made-in-an-airport-hotel-room-free-download/">Continue &#8594;</a>]]></description>
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<p>It&#8217;s like musical survival training. Quick: you&#8217;re stuck in a hotel. Can you make some music?</p>
<p>Our friend Recue, aka Riku Annala, was unexpectedly being stranded in a hotel and made it into a musical opportunity. The results are damned fine listening. (Thank whatever act of God / airlines prompted this.) You can enjoy the results, free. Riku writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>Dunno if you remember but some time ago I shared the little <a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/02/cheap-tape-saturation-hack-delicious-distortion-with-a-tape-to-cd-adapter/">cheap tape head &#8220;saturation&#8221; thingy with you</a>. </p>
<p>I was recently &#8216;stuck&#8217; in an airport hotel room (for other reasons than music), but the good thing was that I had my mobile studio setup with me. The released set started out as this sort of a spur-of-the-moment, tongue-in-cheek live jam, as I was messing around with random hip hop/pop-music vocals on top of bits and pieces of my own projects. Eventually, it started to sound so twisted in a good way that I decided to record the whole thing. The set is split in half with the first part being a performance video and the second the complete set as audio. The tools and methods are exactly of those covered on CDM regularly (NI Maschine run as a plugin on Ableton Live and controlled by Liine Lemur on an iPad).</p></blockquote>
<p>More:<br />
<strong><a href="http://www.recue.net">http://www.recue.net</a></strong></p>
<p>Sure, the accessibility and mobility of music making is seen by some as some sort of assault on civilization. (I think frankly those are the sort of people who don&#8217;t like food and hate joy, grimacing every time they pass a playground.) But if you&#8217;ve made an investment in some nice mobile music tools, put them to good use. Heck, hand-wash your underwear if you have to make more space for music tech. That next unintended layover (oops, thunderstorms) could mean a new album instead of a frustrated, wasted, lonely night. And I like to think that the beauty of modern music tech is that it salvages wonderful music we might otherwise not hear, allows it to come into being.</p>
<p>Have a listen to the full set, and give it a download:</p>
<p><iframe width="100%" height="166" scrolling="no" frameborder="no" src="http://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F41938611&#038;show_artwork=true"></iframe></p>
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		<title>Music Making, Shared: Communal Ambient Tracks Explore Instagram Photos, Lisbon, and More</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This collection of Instagram photos inspired an ambient compilation at the end of last year &#8211; one well worth adding to your listening queue now. Since then, challenges opened to a community on SoundCloud have produced hundreds of terrific tracks &#8211; and the latest weekly challenge is on now, with a deadline midnight Monday. Where &#8230; <a class="btn read-more" href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/04/music-making-shared-communal-ambient-tracks-explore-instagram-photos-lisbon-and-more/">Continue &#8594;</a>]]></description>
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<div class="imgcaption">This collection of Instagram photos inspired an ambient compilation at the end of last year &#8211; one well worth adding to your listening queue now. Since then, challenges opened to a community on SoundCloud have produced hundreds of terrific tracks &#8211; and the latest weekly challenge is on now, with a deadline midnight Monday.</div>
<p>Where do you get your ideas? Sometimes, it can be a challenge just to start a track, or can simply feel a bit, well, lonely. Finding fellow music makers can solve that. Artists gathering around SoundCloud and online ambient music chronicle Disquiet work together, with inspiration from recording ice to ancient found samples of music and spoken word. Disquiet itself has challenged artists with Instagram photos and the city of Lisbon. The results are imaginative, varied, superb music. And they&#8217;ve been surprisingly popular, earning lots of ears and inspiring still more music.</p>
<p>Now, given the Instagram sale for US$1 billion, I would value the free compilation inspired by its photo sharing at least a couple of million dollars. Finding a welcoming community both to spur on new musical ideas and share the results? Priceless.</p>
<p>And, okay, while perhaps they haven&#8217;t netted any massive Facebook buyouts, the past months have proven that ideas like this can motivate music makers and listeners alike.</p>
<p>The Disquiet Junto, started by Disquiet and its editor, Marc Weidenbaum, describes itself as &#8220;a collaborative music-making space in which restraints are used as a springboard for creativity.&#8221; New projects are announced on Thursday, and then you have until the following Monday just before midnight to upload tracks. In just fifteen weeks, that&#8217;s inspired some 700 tracks &#8211; not bad, especially considering ambient music, lovely as it is, is hardly considered a hot commodity as genres go. (Non-ambient submissions are welcome, too, so long as they fit the brief.)</p>
<p>This week&#8217;s challenge, for instance, due Monday the 23rd of April, starts with samples of a piece of sandpaper and a pair of dice. The challenge: make one the foreground, and one the background. (The samples came from free sharing site <a href="http://freesound.org">freesound.org</a>.) Previous challenges including Shostakovich and old rural music, bird song, a spoken word Benjamin Franklin autobiography, and old Edison cylinders as source material, and challenges like working from recordings of ice in a glass.</p>
<p><a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/files/2012/04/lisbonpolaroid.jpg"><img src="http://createdigitalmusic.com/files/2012/04/lisbonpolaroid.jpg" alt="" title="lisbonpolaroid" width="640" height="390" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-23644" /></a></p>
<div class="imgcaption">The city of Lisbon becomes musical muse, too &#8211; in sound source and inspiration. Photo, in Polaroid, (<a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/">CC-BY-SA</a>) <a href="http://www.bananeira.net/">Yasmina Haryono</a>.</div>
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<p>Weidenbaum has also been assembling some lovely compilations. The most recent &#8220;remixes&#8221; the city of Lisbon, entitled LX(RMX). Marc explains:</p>
<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s 16 tracks, two each by eight musicians &#8212; each musician recording one under a pseudonym, and one under their own name, all exploring the sounds of urban Lisbon:</p>
<p><a href="http://disquiet.com/2012/02/14/lxrmx-lisbon-remixed/">http://disquiet.com/2012/02/14/lxrmx-lisbon-remixed/</a></p>
<p>The 17th track is the source material.</p></blockquote>
<p>Here&#8217;s what the resulting tracks sound like:<br />
<iframe width="100%" height="450" scrolling="no" frameborder="no" src="http://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Fplaylists%2F1485082&#038;show_artwork=true"></iframe></p>
<p>A separate compilation from the end of last year explored the notion of using photos on Instagram as source material. In two separate conversations, artists told me recently they felt that we lived in a &#8220;visual&#8221; culture, one in which the image was more important than sound. I&#8217;m still not convinced that&#8217;s true, or even how this oft-repeated statement is evaluated. But on the other hand, finding visual inspiration for music is a compelling exercise, a change to feed one part of the mind with stimulus from another.</p>
<p><iframe width="100%" height="450" scrolling="no" frameborder="no" src="http://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Fplaylists%2F1443375&#038;show_artwork=true"></iframe></p>
<p>Marc reflected on the project when I spoke with him in January &#8211; long before Instagram became part of business history, and when the Junto group was just starting:</p>
<blockquote><p>The first week of release of Instagr/am/bient was much more intense than I had expected &#8212; intense in terms of how quickly it garnered an audience. The first week it averaged over 2,000 listens per day, not counting downloads (which I posted over on <a href="http://Archive.org">Archive.org</a>). I had hopes that the mix of visuals and sound would be of broader interest than some of this music (drones, abstractions, extended phonography) might be on its lonesome. Apparently that proved to be the case. Clearly, tying it to a familiar software (Instagram) helped ground people&#8217;s imaginations, as of course did the visuals. I think there&#8217;s a lesson in that. The correlation also functioned thematically: not just how the music was inspired by the photos, but how Instagram images and ambient music both involve, in their own ways, filters/processes that alter existing documents (photographs in one case, often field recordings in another).</p>
<p>It was interesting as well how the musicians acted on their assignments. Each of the 25 sent to me an Instagram photo they had taken. I then gave thought as to how to disperse them, sometimes assigning one to a musician whose work I thought it shared an aesthetic with, sometimes to a musician for whom I thought the image would provide a creative<br />
challenge. For example, I gave the image to Evan Cordes that showed the wheel of an office chair against floorboards. To my eye, the lines of the floorboards resembled sheet music, and indeed when I later discussed the project with Cordes he confirmed that he had interpreted it as a graphic score.</p>
<p>This project differed from past Disquiet.com projects in that it was looser. The assignments were fully conscious, but in the end one has less overall control over something when 25 geographically dispersed musicians working from 25 different source subjects are involved, versus when a dozen musicians are involved. The next major Disquiet.com project is very controlled, just eight musicians, all with a very specific assignment. It should be out in a few weeks.</p>
<p>The relative openness of the Instagr/am/bient project inspired me to push the idea a step further. So, I created a Soundcloud group for communal sound experiments, which launched today. It is called Disquiet-Junto. It already has 40 members, which is great. The idea is that I come up with a sound/music assignment and post the idea on a Friday, and then Monday by midnight the groups&#8217; members post their recordings in response to the assignment. Already there are a half dozen tracks based on the first assignment, which is to make music from the sound of ice in a glass.</p></blockquote>
<p>The aftermath of the Instagram compilation is itself a fascinating story. The compilation captured the imagination of writers well outside the world of music. But most tellingly, you can read how the group of 25 musicians worked to translate what they saw into sounds of their own creation &#8211; whether in the microcosm of technical details (gear used and such) or bigger ideas of how to work between the visual and aural media. Their reactions are sometimes formal, sometimes emotional, intuitive, or fanciful.</p>
<p>Evan Cordes even posted video of his Pd patch, ticking away:</p>
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<p>Hilobrow has this <a href="http://hilobrow.com/2011/12/31/instagrambient/">revelatory review</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Imagine receiving a postcard in the mail. Ok, back up: remember the mail? Remember postcards?</p>
<p>Right, now imagine them. On one side, an image: a faraway place, an iconic sign, people smiling, a sunset. Perhaps someone has even scribbled on it, adding their own moustaches, thought bubbles, or other postal graffiti. “Having a wonderful time,” it inevitably says, “wish you were here.”</p>
<p>Or, does it? Turning it over, ostensibly to read, you find instead that it — sings.</p></blockquote>
<p>But, Instagram hype aside, consider what this could mean for finding inspiration anywhere, for reinvigorating your musical process. Actually, don&#8217;t think about it too long &#8211; just go do it.</p>
<p>You can check out the Juno group:<br />
<a href="http://soundcloud.com/groups/disquiet-junto">http://soundcloud.com/groups/disquiet-junto</a></p>
<p>And read up on the two curated compilations &#8211; each released under a <a href="http://creativecommons.org">Creative Commons</a> license:</p>
<p><a href="http://disquiet.com/2012/02/14/lxrmx-lisbon-remixed/">LX(RMX) / LISBON REMIXED</a></p>
<p><a href="http://disquiet.com/2012/01/01/instagrambient-after-party/">INSTAGR/AM/BIENT: 25 SONIC POSTCARDS</a></p>
<p><a href="http://disquiet.com">http://disquiet.com</a></p>
<p><strong>Note, too, that the SoundCloud Meetup Day</strong> is on the 17th of May. I expect to be keeping tuned into what&#8217;s happening in Berlin and involved in something in London, but wherever you are in the world, I&#8217;d love to hear what ideas you have for exchanging sound, and if you&#8217;ll be doing something to celebrate if you&#8217;re a SoundCloud user.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.soundcloud.com/2012/04/19/getinvolved/">SoundCloud Global Meetup Day May 17th: Get Involved!</a></p>
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		<title>Church-Inspired Electronic Music, in Album and Interactive, Gothic App, from Forss [Listen]</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Delicate and dense, melodies and sounds from church contexts, found sounds of bells and voices, are set against crisp, sharply-solid, forward-driving electronic beats. And then, there are the visuals: an archaic architecture of mystical symbols and three-dimensional, evolving forms interpret the music in visual form. Swedish-born artist and technologist Eric Wahlforss, in other words, has &#8230; <a class="btn read-more" href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/04/church-inspired-electronic-music-in-album-and-interactive-gothic-app-from-eric-wahlforss-listen/">Continue &#8594;</a>]]></description>
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<p>Delicate and dense, melodies and sounds from church contexts, found sounds of bells and voices, are set against crisp, sharply-solid, forward-driving electronic beats. And then, there are the visuals: an archaic architecture of mystical symbols and three-dimensional, evolving forms interpret the music in visual form.</p>
<p>Swedish-born artist and technologist Eric Wahlforss, in other words, has been busy. As the artist Forss, his album is an app, appropriately for someone who is the co-founder and CTO of SoundCloud. Eric showed me an early build over cheeseburgers. It&#8217;s reactive, perhaps, more than interactive, but there&#8217;s still a chance to use your hands to rotate both visuals and music, a bit like picking up a sculpture and viewing it from different angles &#8211; though with the added element of sound. What you get is a sense of an interwoven visual and musical world, and an aesthetic vision that Wahlforss has pulled together.</p>
<p>From the man who built the world&#8217;s largest online recording business, it&#8217;s little surprise that recording features prominently, in two threads:<span id="more-23380"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>Recordings of strings, choirs, organs and ambient noise from church concerts which have been cut up into fragments and rearranged into a new mosaic of music, and recordings of wooden, stone and metal objects which make up the beats and percussion. These are the plosive, rhythmical noises that provide the link between the traditional to modern electronica.</p></blockquote>
<p>That musical combination sounds to me familiar, though also clearly comfortable to Mr. Wahlforss. The collaboration is especially intriguing, though, as a Viennese graphic designer (Leonard Lass) and German computer graphics artist (Marcel Schobel, Untouch) collaborate to produce an audiovisual experience. Berghain, that cavernous church of techno (and occasionally more experimental sounds), seems an appropriate setting in the city that also played home to SoundCloud&#8217;s founding. (The fact that the former power station has the acoustics of a church doesn&#8217;t hurt, either &#8211; even if it&#8217;s ill-suited to denser music for the same reason.) <em>Ecclesia</em> will get its launch across media: live show in Berlin, app on iPad, album. For now, you can hear the tracks streamed via &#8211; of course &#8211; SoundCloud, even shared directly from Ableton Live.</p>
<p><iframe width="100%" height="166" scrolling="no" frameborder="no" src="http://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F41770793&#038;show_artwork=true"></iframe></p>
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<p><iframe width="100%" height="166" scrolling="no" frameborder="no" src="http://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F41772991&#038;show_artwork=true"></iframe></p>
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<p><a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/files/2012/04/forss3-1.jpg"><img src="http://createdigitalmusic.com/files/2012/04/forss3-1.jpg" alt="" title="forss3-1" width="480" height="640" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-23618" /></a></p>
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<p>The live show premieres May 2 in Berlin at Berghain/Panorama Bar, with the app out the same day. The album itself releases on June 12.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://forssmusic.com/">http://forssmusic.com/</a></strong></p>
<p>Visuals come from Untouch (Marcel Schobel):<br />
<strong><a href="http://www.untouch.fm/">http://www.untouch.fm/</a></strong><br />
&#8230;and Leonard Lass:<br />
<strong><a href="http://depart.at">http://depart.at</a></strong></p>
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		<title>Get Live Lite, SoundCloud for Free, as Ableton and SoundCloud Team Up; Which Apps Do SoundCloud?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indeed. Image (CC-BY-NC-SA) Bony Bünz AKA Cheek fille AKA Vi AKA L&#8217;Effroyable. Quietly, steadily, software has been making SoundCloud upload a standard feature. In some mobile applications, it&#8217;s second only to &#8220;save&#8221; as a feature. That makes getting your music online and shared uncommonly easy. Below, we&#8217;ve got the running list for mobile and desktop &#8230; <a class="btn read-more" href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/04/get-live-lite-soundcloud-for-free-as-ableton-and-soundcloud-team-up-which-apps-do-soundcloud/">Continue &#8594;</a>]]></description>
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<div class="imgcaption">Indeed. Image (<a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/">CC-BY-NC-SA</a>) <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bonybunz/">Bony Bünz AKA Cheek fille AKA Vi AKA L&#8217;Effroyable</a>.</div>
<p>Quietly, steadily, software has been making SoundCloud upload a standard feature. In some mobile applications, it&#8217;s second only to &#8220;save&#8221; as a feature. That makes getting your music online and shared uncommonly easy. Below, we&#8217;ve got the running list for mobile and desktop &#8211; and it looks very impressive, indeed, so we can at least get your attention with our own list.</p>
<p>But apparently Berlin-based neighbors Ableton and SoundCloud didn&#8217;t want their collaboration to be so quiet. To herald the inclusion of SoundCloud integration in Ableton Live, they&#8217;re giving away their products.</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>If you&#8217;re a SoundCloud user,</strong> you get a copy of Ableton Live Lite for free. It&#8217;s not the full version, but it is a reasonably capable version for remixes, production, and DJing. (In fact, it does more than the early versions of Live 1.x on which I started using the platform.) That&#8217;s a copy of Ableton to some 11+ million users &#8211; a very big deal, as SoundCloud&#8217;s explosive growth has attracted a lot of users outside our normal music producer community.</li>
<li><strong>If you&#8217;re an Ableton Live 8 owner,</strong> you get five months of free SoundCloud Pro service.</li>
<li><strong>If you don&#8217;t yet own Ableton Live &#8211; or you own a version prior to v8 &#8211; you can get SoundCloud Pro free for 5 months</strong> when you purchase a new copy of Live or Live Suite 8 or upgrade your existing copy.</li>
<li><strong>You can now upload to SoundCloud inside Ableton Live.</strong></li>
<li><strong>Make a track in 24 hours.</strong> From May 14-28, Live users will be able to download a free Live Pack of sounds by M83, Junior Boys, and Nosaj Thing &#8211; and once the download starts, they have 24 hours to finish a track. You can win prizes like lifetime software upgrades and SoundCloud service or a trip to Berlin. (This is different from the trip to Berlin I&#8217;m giving away, which can be yours if you send in your entry written on the back of a complete Buchla modular.)</li>
</ul>
<p><span id="more-23359"></span></p>
<p>Sweden and Germany haven&#8217;t gone together this nicely since I was eating meatballs and lingonberry at IKEA in Lichtenberg. (Hmmm&#8230; that&#8217;s a terrible line. I&#8217;ll let you know if I come up with a better one. I&#8217;m taking that one out of my pay for today.)</p>
<p>So, okay, the promotion is obviously designed to get people hooked on SoundCloud and Ableton. But it will be really interesting to see whether a free copy of Live helps attract SoundCloud&#8217;s non-specialized audience to get hooked on <em>making music</em>. As popular as Live is &#8211; and I&#8217;m told it continues to grow, even as we wait on the next major release &#8211; there are still plenty of people who use sound who don&#8217;t use Live or even a similar tool. Apple&#8217;s GarageBand helped bridge that audience, for one, by being included free on Macs. On Macs and PCs, as people start using SoundCloud for audio of all kinds (podcasts and spoken word joining music), we&#8217;ll see if more music tools can appeal.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.soundcloud.com/2012/04/02/soundcloud-and-ableton/">SoundCloud and Ableton</a> [SoundCloud blog]<br />
<a href="http://www.ableton.com/free-soundcloud">5 free months of SoundCloud Pro for all Live 8 users</a> [Ableton]</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the story with Ableton. But if you haven&#8217;t watched closely, a lot of software has been adding SoundCloud integration. Mobile apps are especially common, since the idea of uploading to the &#8220;cloud&#8221; and being mobile with a tablet or phone naturally go together. But desktop apps have been adding integration.</p>
<p>I was curious just to keep up with that list, so I spoke to Henrik Lenberg, VP of Platform for SoundCloud. He gave us just a few highlights. (If you&#8217;re a developer and left out, feel free to give us a shout in comments &#8211; there are too many apps to be comprehensive.)</p>
<p><a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/files/2012/04/bluemic_record.jpg"><img src="http://createdigitalmusic.com/files/2012/04/bluemic_record.jpg" alt="" title="bluemic_record" width="640" height="426" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-23373" /></a></p>
<div class="imgcaption">Plug in mic, hit record, upload to SoundCloud. Photo (<a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/">)CC-BY</a>) <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/clanlife/">Phil Campbell</a>.</div>
<blockquote><p>Major mobile integrations:</p>
<p>- Apple GarageBand<br />
- Korg iMS-20, iElectribe and iKaossilator<br />
- Retronyms Tabletop<br />
- Native Instruments iMaschine<br />
- FL Studio Mobile<br />
- NanoStudio<br />
- BeatMaker 2<br />
- AmpKit<br />
- Yamaha TNR-i<br />
- Music Studio<br />
- iRig Recorder<br />
and more… </p>
<p>Major desktop integrations:<br />
- Ableton Live<br />
- PreSonus Studio One<br />
- Avid Pro Tools<br />
- Steinberg Cubase and WaveLab<br />
- Cakewalk Sonar and Music Creator<br />
- Magix Samplitude and Music Maker<br />
- OpenLabs Music OS<br />
and more… </p></blockquote>
<p><strong>FL Studio</strong> is another important one &#8211; thanks to reader <a href="http://twitter.com/Paggosblitz">Brandon Adkins</a> for the reminder! It&#8217;s especially interesting, as Image-Line briefly had a tool called Collab which was intended to encourage its users to share their work. Now, they get more features &#8211; and easier collaboration across different tools and platforms &#8211; on SoundCloud. (I will say, there were a couple of nice things about Collab. It opened actual FL files, and had a live chat; I even wrote the thing up for <em>Keyboard</em>, but it didn&#8217;t last. Still, SoundCloud and FL could go together nicely.) </p>
<p>I have to ask the obvious question. Does having SoundCloud integration right in an application matter to you? Or would you rather take your time, export normally, and upload separately? And is it as important to you on a desktop as on mobile?</p>
<p>Which of these tools matter most &#8211; is any bigger for you than Ableton?</p>
<p>Beyond that, how do you use SoundCloud with your music software &#8211; if at all?</p>
<p>Let us know what your online/sharing workflow looks like; I&#8217;m very eager to hear.</p>
<p><a href="http://soundcloud.com/peterkirn">http://soundcloud.com/peterkirn</a><br />
<a href="http://soundcloud.com/cdm">http://soundcloud.com/cdm</a></p>
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		<title>Analog Frontiers: Listen to King Britt&#8217;s New Fhloston Paradigm EP [CDM Track Stream, FACT Mix]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finding new sounds in our pulsing electronics means refining our working techniques isn&#8217;t just a technical matter. It&#8217;s a musical one. King Britt, who has been granted many successful musical incarnations over the years, set off on just such a quest under his new identity Fhloston Paradigm. In a much-watched debut EP for brilliant UK &#8230; <a class="btn read-more" href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/03/analog-frontiers-listen-to-king-britts-new-fhloston-paradigm-ep-cdm-track-stream-fact-mix/">Continue &#8594;</a>]]></description>
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<p>Finding new sounds in our pulsing electronics means refining our working techniques isn&#8217;t just a technical matter. It&#8217;s a musical one.</p>
<p>King Britt, who has been granted many successful musical incarnations over the years, set off on just such a quest under his new identity Fhloston Paradigm. In a much-watched debut EP for brilliant UK imprint Hyperdub, the Philadelphia artist produces an out-of-this-world, cinematic sonic journey. King is perhaps best known as a name in house music; here, the style is experimental, but the groove rolls behind each track, sequencers softly shuffling along in a way that makes them seem caught in a slow, trance-like dance. Carefully-curated classic synthesizers gather into shared patterns of sound; King worked loosely with rhythm by letting these instruments play freely together, not slaved by MIDI, then crafted and polished the track in the more pristine digital world of the computer. </p>
<p>The &#8220;analog&#8221; business of these tracks is something of a hook for people describing the album, but that is of course a means to an end. Chaining together instruments lets polyrhythms emerge almost organically like blossoms, as King push their various timbres into undiscovered voices, whether a whisper or a growl. (We&#8217;ll have a separate video showing his equipment chain, which I think illustrates this more clearly, but here, let&#8217;s just listen.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve chosen the evocative &#8220;Liloos Seduction,&#8221; which Hyperdub is generously letting CDM stream. A lazy, drifting journey into exotic synthesized lands, it shows off the fuzzy edges of that gear&#8217;s timbres. But I&#8217;ll shut up and let you listen.</p>
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<p>The EP is three tracks &#8211; two long, one short &#8211; but covers enough ground that it feels like a meal more than a morsel. <span id="more-23253"></span></p>
<p>Official release page (and purchase in GBP): <strong><a href="http://www.hyperdub.net/releases/view/169/HDB060">King Britt: Presents Fhloston Paradigm (HDB060)</a> [Hyperdub]</strong></p>
<p>Check it out on King&#8217;s site:<a href="http://kingbritt.com/2012/03/26/king-britt-x-hyperdub-x-fhloston-paradigm/">King Britt x Hyperdub x Fhloston Paradigm</a> [kingbritt.com]</p>
<p>Also on Bleep, where you can grab lossless versions for download: <a href="https://bleep.com/release/35193#description">King Britt Presents Fhloston Paradigm EP Hyperdub</a> [Bleep.com]</p>
<p>Hyperdub sent over this PR description, and it&#8217;s so nicely put-together that I think it also deserves a place. (I love when labels promotional materials are musically insightful and not just a jargon-laden sales pitch.)</p>
<blockquote><p>HDB060 King Britt presents Fhloston Paradigm March 26th</p>
<p>Hyperdub start the year of single releases off with a brilliant, and subtle curveball courtesy of Philly’s finest; King Britt in his new guise as Fhloston Paradigm.</p>
<p>Built from drum machines, analog keyboards and 303’s, and edited in the computer, these 3 lean and mean tracks, have an unadorned feeling that build on Hyperdub’s love for old John Carpenter style electronics, combined with Dr Patrick Gleason’s ear for the abstract, and bouncy drum machine syncopation that sounds like they’re aiming for an alternative present where analogue synths are still king.</p>
<p>Chasing Rainbows, is first off, with a dark tone that reminds of the opening theme to the film ‘Escape from New York, a wavering 303 bassline and tough kicks and snares giving away to heavy, moody chords.</p>
<p>The Chase works rough rolling drum machine beats that stutter and build into strange fills that threaten to stop the track dead if it wasn’t for the strange stumbling bassline and gently building acid line that resolve into a super funky melodic duel with some stuttering synth strings.</p>
<p>Liloos Seduction is intense, quiet and abstract; a flickering 303 bass line is joined by barely there drums and reflective keys, everything shimmering in a dramatic fashion with gentle echoes giving the track a deep, watery sense of perspective as each part gently and gracefully builds and twists into a tender and effecting melody.</p></blockquote>
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<h3>And the Mix</h3>
<p>King put together a mix for FACT magazine I think many readers will adore, sprinkled with science fiction references, and veering from dark, film-like dystopias to shadowy club music to symmetrical electronic arpeggios, as if you&#8217;ve ducked out of the streets of <em>Blade Runner</em> and into a future cantina before a spin around the arcade.</p>
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<p>Track listing:<br />
1. Dialog from 1984<br />
2. Lowleaf – Tala At Twilight<br />
3. Fhloston Paradigm – Live Interlude #1<br />
4. Chemical Brothers – Escape Wavefold (from Hanna soundtrack)<br />
5. Boom Boom Satellites – Dub Me Crazy<br />
6. Tenko – Slope – Gradual Disappearance<br />
7. Eurhythmics – Take Me To Your Heart<br />
8. Blade Runner dialog (rain scene)<br />
9. Sleepy Tea – Specta Cierra<br />
10. Alva Noto &#038; Ryuichi Sakamoto – Microon III<br />
11. Fhloston Paradigm – Live Interlude #3<br />
12. Fhloston Paradigm – The Chase<br />
13. JJ Doom – Banished<br />
14. Power Douglas – Little Gong<br />
15. Jerry Goldsmith – Intensive Care (From Logan’s Run soundtrack)<br />
16. Raymond Scott – Portofino<br />
17. Paul McCartney – Blue Sway (Demo)<br />
18. Fhloston Paradigm – Song For Charlie<br />
19. Synergy – The Mystery of Peri Reis<br />
20. Galaxy 2 Galaxy – Frag 2<br />
21. David Sylvian – Answered Prayers / Carla Bley (dialog)<br />
22. King Britt presents Scuba – Bare Naked feat. Imani Uzuri<br />
23. Fhloston Paradigm – Live Interlude #3</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.factmag.com/2012/03/26/fact-mix-322-king-britt-presents-fhloston-paradigm/">FACT mix 322: King Britt presents Fhloston Paradigm</a></strong> [factmag.com]</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t miss the FACT coverage leading up to this release, either, which includes some great interview on King&#8217;s process and love of science fiction (and how he got the name Fhloston Paradigm &#8211; thanks, Rucyl!)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.factmag.com/2012/03/06/king-britt-on-phloston-paradigm-pulp-sci-fi-movies-and-recording-for-hyperdub/">King Britt on Fhloston Paradigm, pulp sci-fi movies and recording for Hyperdub</a> [factmag.com]</p>
<p>To <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/search/%22Boyfriend%20is%20PERFECT%22">paraphrase the Justin Bieber fans</a>, this mix is PERFECT. I&#8217;m going to leave it on repeat all day.</p>
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		<title>A World of Sounds: Academik&#8217;s Francis Preve Shares Label&#8217;s Music, Studio Advice, Samples for Live</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Francis Prève works the crowd. Photo courtesy the artist. The abundance of music, and the preceived ease of producing it, comes to some as bad news &#8211; or even harbinger of apocalypse. But load up a craft with quantity, and quality is what stands out. Francis Prève is a perfect Renaissance producer. With years of &#8230; <a class="btn read-more" href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/03/a-world-of-sounds-academiks-francis-preve-shares-labels-music-studio-advice-samples-for-live/">Continue &#8594;</a>]]></description>
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<div class="imgcaption">Francis Prève works the crowd. Photo courtesy the artist.</div>
<p>The abundance of music, and the preceived ease of producing it, comes to some as bad news &#8211; or even harbinger of apocalypse. But load up a craft with quantity, and quality is what stands out.</p>
<p>Francis Prève is a perfect Renaissance producer. With years of experience as a music technology journalist and sound designer, his own, signature flavor of tech-house is uniquely focused on timbre. His label, <a href="www.academikrecords.com">Academik Records</a>, debuted last year at Austin&#8217;s South by Southwest, but it&#8217;s just now kicking into high gear. (If you are in Austin for the world&#8217;s best known week of music, be sure to check in on the second party, running downtown from afternoon past midnight, for free.) Sure, a city like Berlin is associated with such things, but in the Internet age, Texas works just as well &#8211; minus the vitamin D deficiency.</p>
<p><a href="http://academikrecords.blogspot.com/p/academik-event-2012-contest-entry-and.html">Academik Contest giveaway</a><br />
<a href="http://academikrecords.blogspot.com/2012/02/academik-records-sxsw-2012-event.html">Lanai Rooftop Party, Saturday March 17 3p &#8211; 2a</a></p>
<p>Francis has rounded up a gang of emerging and known artists for Academik, and while age range and style are loose &#8211; sometimes dubstep, sometimes tech-house &#8211; what those signees have in common is attention to detail. They&#8217;re a veritable faculty in how to use Ableton Live and Massive so that you don&#8217;t sound like everyone else who&#8217;s using Ableton Live and Massive just because everybody else happens to be using Ableton Live and Massive.</p>
<p>The output is nicely represented in a podcast, mixed by Francis, that very much embodies his style:<br />
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<p>Alternatively, check out the <a href="http://www.beatport.com/chart/francis-pr-ve-sxsw-2012-chart/51603">SxSW 2012 Chart</a> Francis put together for Beatport.</p>
<p>Anyway, party &#8211; if you&#8217;re in Texas, go there, dance, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/events/198749643559054/">have a good time</a>.</p>
<p>But if you&#8217;re not from Texas, or you&#8217;re avoiding it because all your exes are there (okay, darnit, I&#8217;ll stop quoting song lyrics), through The Power of The Internet, we have a bunch of music to hear and tips and techniques and samples and loops and Ableton Live Instrument Racks and Sets to download &#8211; all free.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because Francis has been as sharing music and techniques for how to produce it as he has the usual label activities (remix, release). Now, disclosure: I&#8217;ve known Francis for a long time, as a colleague at <em>Keyboard</em>. But it&#8217;s partly because I know him that I have a sense of that quality of attention to detail &#8211; because we&#8217;ve spent countless hours discussing the fine points of synth design and production technique, because he&#8217;ll call me up to talk about some particular I happened to mention writing, because he even spent hours with me and James Grahame talking about the exact organization of knobs and switches on the MeeBlip. I figure part of my responsibility in this world is to get to know people like that really well. (It happens to be a lot of fun, too.)</p>
<p>As it happens, you can be in on the same conversations.<span id="more-23113"></span></p>
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<div class="imgcaption">Live companion? Yes, outboard gear and software can coexist; Francis covers the workflow for combining gear like this Slim Phatty, seen here in ever-so-flattering wood, with ubiquitous audio production tool Ableton Live. Image courtesy Moog Music.</div>
<h3>Analog+Digital, Hardware+Software</h3>
<p>One ongoing discussion has been ways of bringing in a few, select pieces of beloved hardware into a software studio. Even before talking about sound, the motivation is clear: it can make music making a lot more rewarding. And we&#8217;re not talking wildly-expensive modular setups, either &#8211; even inexpensive offerings like the KORG MonoTribe can get in on the action.</p>
<p>A lot of people working with software aren&#8217;t clear on just how to make hardware and software integrate nicely. Francis wrote a really comprehensive article on that subject, using his own rig as the subject, for <em>Keyboard</em> recently.</p>
<p>He writes about the process of using Live&#8217;s brilliant &#8211; and sometimes underused &#8211; External Instrument and External Effect devices:</p>
<blockquote><p>The first order of business was to create custom devices in Live for sending MIDI to a specific synth—for example, the <a href="http://www.moogmusic.com/products/phattys/slim-phatty">Phatty</a>—then routing its audio output back into that same device via the MOTU [UltraLite Mk. 3 audio] interface. I then saved the results as presets. Thus, when the laptop is docked, all I have to do is drag the device I’d created for the Phatty into a track, and the Phatty comes online&#8230;</p>
<p>The next thing I did was create an External Audio Effect device that sent audio to a device but didn’t receive any audio back &#8230; by setting it up to send audio but not receive, I can drop it at the end of an instrument chain within an Instrument Rack and send any soft synth into the Moog, SEM, Dark Energy, or Monotribe. From there, the combined analog-plus-soft-synth audio runs from the analog synth back into a free input on the MOTU, to be recorded in Live.</p>
<p>By doing this, I can use Operator, Razor, Kontakt or any soft synth as the “oscillator bank” for one of my analog synths. The whole of digital tone generation combined with the warmth and fuzz of analog filters and the snap of analog envelopes is far more than the sum of its parts.</p></blockquote>
<p>Francis also describes &#8220;hybrid&#8221; devices, combining Ableton instruments like Operator with outboard ingredients like the Moog Little Phatty filter and amp &#8212; all while controlling modulation and step sequences and such on the hardware with MIDI and Live clip envelopes. (He even talks about how to tame the MonoTribe, despite its &#8211; cough &#8211; lack of MIDI.)</p>
<p>The full article is online:<br />
<strong><a href="http://www.keyboardmag.com/article/the-integrated-synth-based-studio/147899">The Integrated Synth-Based Studio</a></strong> [Keyboard Magazine]</p>
<h3>Free Sounds</h3>
<p>Apart from being a producer, Francis has long been a sound designer, working for the likes of Roland and Ableton His free-sampling, hardware-loving, sound design-addicted spirit has been gradually developing a vast selection of free sample packs on his blog. Some come from software (NI&#8217;s Razor), some from new hardware (Moog&#8217;s aforementioned Slim Phatty), and some from oddities (my favorite being the Mattel Synsonics drum machine toy). </p>
<p>But whereas the Academik Records music will be dependent on your personal taste and aesthetic, here these are sound packs that are versatile enough to bend to your will and needs, and to produce something very different from what anyone else might produce. And that, ultimately, is the point.</p>
<p>So here, all in one place, are those great downloads from Fran&#8217;s blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://francispreve.blogspot.com/2011/01/you-want-ableton-presets-ya-got-em.html">21st Century Sawtooth Pad</a> [Instrument Rack/Live Set, Live 7+]</p>
<p><a href="http://francispreve.blogspot.com/2011/02/want-another-ableton-preset.html">The String Machine</a> [Instrument Rack and Live Set, Live 7+]</p>
<p><a href="http://francispreve.blogspot.com/2011/03/new-ableton-preset-arkade.html">Arkade</a> [8-bit emulating Instrument Racks, Live 7+]</p>
<p><a href="http://francispreve.blogspot.com/2011/06/ableton-preset-wavescraper.html">Ableton Preset: Wavescraper</a> [Simpler-based Instrument Rack using Saturator waveshaping, Live 7+]</p>
<p><a href="http://francispreve.blogspot.com/2011/07/ableton-preset-sine-of-times.html">Sine of the Times</a> [All sine-wave Instrument Rack, Live 7+]</p>
<p><a href="http://francispreve.blogspot.com/2011/08/ableton-preset-mattel-synsonics.html">Mattel Synsonics drum machine toy</a> [Drum samples, Live set]</p>
<p><a href="http://francispreve.blogspot.com/2011/01/free-loops-m-audio-venom-sixpack.html">M-Audio Venom Loops</a> [128 bpm, in C | Raw audio, Live 7+]</p>
<p><a href="http://francispreve.blogspot.com/2011/03/download-ni-razor-loop-six-pack.html">Native Instruments Razor Loops</a> [128 bpm, in Cm | Raw audio, Live 7+]</p>
<p><a href="http://francispreve.blogspot.com/2011/04/slim-phatty-six-pack.html">Moog Slim Phatty Loops</a> [128 bpm, in C | Raw audio, Live 7+]</p>
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		<title>That&#8217;s Right, You&#8217;re Not From Texas: CDM SxSW Picks, Gone Tech-y, Starting Today</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Austin comes into view. Photo (CC-BY) David Berkowitz. Okay, I may be in Germany (see you next week, Messe!), but if you&#8217;re in Austin, Texas, the CDM radar is picking up some strong blips of things you probably want to be doing, starting today, Do. 15 Mär. (Erm, uh, sorry, Thursday March 15!) Highlights include &#8230; <a class="btn read-more" href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/03/thats-right-youre-not-from-texas-cdm-sxsw-picks-gone-tech-y-starting-today/">Continue &#8594;</a>]]></description>
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<div class="imgcaption">Austin comes into view. Photo (<a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/">CC-BY</a>) <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidberkowitz/">David Berkowitz</a>.</div>
<p>Okay, I may be in Germany (see you next week, Messe!), but if you&#8217;re in Austin, Texas, the CDM radar is picking up some strong blips of <em>things you probably want to be doing</em>, starting today, Do. 15 Mär. (Erm, uh, sorry, Thursday March 15!) Highlights include a Neon Indian show paired with visuals, music, and the good folks of Switched On, fine music from Robot Koch, TYCHO, and Sepalcure, a Saturday night dance party with Academik on a beautiful rooftop in the heart of town, and workshops &#8211; much of this free and not requiring a badge. A few, select picks:</p>
<p><strong>Daytime plan: Dubspot workshops.</strong> If you are in Austin, by all means stop reading this and go to a set of afternoon matinee workshops that starts with Maschine and proceeds to Moog Minitaur and Voyager and wraps up with Livid&#8217;s CTRL:R for Live. Friday and Saturday are packed with more free workshops ranging from production and sound design to DJing, theory, and licensing. Faculty  DJ Shiftee, DJ Kiva, Martín Perna Chris Petti, Daniel Wyatt, and Pat Cupo &#8211; some seriously talented guys &#8211; are on-hand. These are folks I feel I learn from every time I&#8217;m around them, so highly recommended, and the price is right.<br />
<a href="http://blog.dubspot.com/dubspot-sxsw-2012-edu-sessions/">http://blog.dubspot.com/dubspot-sxsw-2012-edu-sessions/</a></p>
<p>Also during the daytime, if you <em>do</em> have a badge, you should check out Exhibit Hall 5 for a bunch of gear showcases &#8211; a bit like being at NAMM, but in the middle of a massive music festival instead of in the middle of Anaheim. (No Disneyland, though.)</p>
<p><strong>Thursday night plan: Switched On / Moog / Neon Indian showcase.</strong> Moog Music and Austin&#8217;s best music gear store, Switched On, are teaming up tonight for one hell of a showcase. Neon Indian is headlining, but that band&#8217;s Alan Palomo is bringing along synth-laden music from his Static Tongues imprint. By the way, 2012 is somehow bringing back the acronym EBM, among other &#8220;pinch-me-I&#8217;m-dreaming-and-went-to-synth-heaven&#8221; aspects of this year. The action runs 7pm-2am.<br />
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/events/306676036054977/?notif_t=event_invite">Facebook event</a><span id="more-23104"></span></p>
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<p><strong>Thursday night backup plan: high-quality bass.</strong> The name&#8217;s a bit misleading &#8211; SxSWhomp is perhaps to appeal to those American kids &#8211; but if you can&#8217;t get into Switched On, this nicely-curated range of bass music from dubstep to experimental looks like the perfect ticket. Just after midnight is one of my favorite solo artists and producers at the moment, Berlin&#8217;s own Robot Koch (also the guy behind the excellent Jacoozi), alongside the likes of Kraddy and Noah D. It&#8217;s no cover, first come first serve.<br />
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/events/386229674721769/">Facebook event</a></p>
<p><strong>Friday night plan: Tycho, then Sepalcure.</strong> Tycho, aka Scott Hansen, is both one of our long-time favorite artists and favorite taste-makers, as helmsman of the <a href="blog.iso50.com">ISO50 blog</a>. His new live show is terrific, and hits at 21:15 at <a href="http://austin2012.sched.org/event/9e0c2f2912f26d632abebd8cdc2e5c88">Clive Bar</a>. Then, it&#8217;s the team of Machinedrum and Praveen, aka <a href="http://austin2012.sched.org/event/11092116ebc3301b7f2dc34ce8a538ba">Sepalcure</a>, for some warm beats after midnight.</p>
<p><strong>Saturday night plan: dance with Academik.</strong> Academik Records is back on the rooftop of Lanai in the heart of Austin &#8211; an ideal way to cap off your week with some actual dancing, courtesy some high-quality electronic dance music. DJ sets from Francis Prève, Jan van Lier, The Chaotic Good, and SecretPandaSociety ensure music ranging from finely-crafted tech house to breaks. (CDM is a sponsor in absentia, and you can win a <a href="http://meeblip.com">MeeBlip</a> on the spot, among other analog and digital hardware and software prizes.) There&#8217;s a great lineup of tech sponsors (Dave Smith!), no cover, and having DJed the same party last year, just the kind of atmosphere you&#8217;ll need Saturday.<br />
<a href="http://academikrecords.blogspot.com/2012/02/academik-records-sxsw-2012-event.html">Academik Blog Post</a><br />
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/events/198749643559054/">Facebook event</a><br />
<a href="http://academikrecords.blogspot.com/p/academik-event-2012-contest-entry-and.html">Giveaway</a> (including some prizes you can win if you aren&#8217;t in Texas)</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t miss the Academik podcast, mixed by our friend Francis Prève, on SoundCloud, natch:<br />
<iframe width="100%" height="166" scrolling="no" frameborder="no" src="http://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F39768697&#038;show_artwork=true"></iframe></p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ve missed some stuff, so send it in and I&#8217;ll consider adding it to our top picks. (And obviously, there&#8217;s the rest of SxSW &#8211; but this is just the kind of electronic-leaning material I expect you might otherwise miss.)</p>
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		<title>From Sounds to Wave Patterns to iPhone Cases, a Design Made from Footsteps</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adorn your iPhone with audio, courtesy 3D printers Shapeways and an unusual use of the SoundCloud API to get at the data. The content we watch on the Internet is, ultimately, just data. We view that data in fairly narrow, conventional ways, but there&#8217;s no reason that has to be the limit. In one of &#8230; <a class="btn read-more" href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/03/from-sounds-to-wave-patterns-to-iphone-cases-a-design-made-from-footsteps/">Continue &#8594;</a>]]></description>
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<div class="imgcaption">Adorn your iPhone with audio, courtesy 3D printers Shapeways and an unusual use of the SoundCloud API to get at the data.</div>
<p>The content we watch on the Internet is, ultimately, just data. We view that data in fairly narrow, conventional ways, but there&#8217;s no reason that has to be the limit. In one of the more novel applications of the API for audio-storing service SoundCloud, one 3D printer is happily turning your music tracks and recordings into custom iPhone cases, each uniquely based on the waveform of your sounds.</p>
<p>This week in Austin at South by Southwest, SoundCloud was attracting attention with that notion, as partner manager Caroline Drucker showed off a custom case built from the sound of her walking across a train platform a pair of signature high heels. (It&#8217;s the U6 U-Bahnhof Schwartzkopffstraße, if you must know, specifically. The USA Today featured the footwear and the case. &#8220;Must&#8217;ve been the shoes.&#8221;) </p>
<p><a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/files/2012/03/caroline.jpg"><img src="http://createdigitalmusic.com/files/2012/03/caroline-640x480.jpg" alt="" title="caroline" width="640" height="480" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-23059" /></a></p>
<div class="imgcaption">Yes, Berlin, us North Americans can sport the scarf, too. SoundCloud&#8217;s Caroline shows off an iPhone case she made from a sound she made of footsteps, in a visual reminder that listening to the world and recording what you hear is always a good idea. (Speaking of which, I need to go scarf shopping &#8230; hmmm, maybe I can print <em>it</em> with an FFT &#8230;)</div>
<p>It&#8217;s primarily for fun, of course, but it does illustrate a point. Just having a smartphone along is enough to capture sound in all kinds of situations &#8211; don&#8217;t overlook the built-in mic. (Just make sure you&#8217;ve got ample focus on whatever you&#8217;re trying to record, since these mics are very vulnerable to background and ambient noise, and use an app that lets you record in a lossless format, making it more useful for musical sampling.) Odds are you&#8217;ve been in the situation Caroline was and &#8211; if you&#8217;re paying attention to your environment &#8211; got a great sound just walking around. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s that original sound, as recorded with the iPhone SoundCloud app (equivalents are available for other platforms, too, so finally put that mic to use for something other than just calls):<span id="more-23054"></span><br />
<iframe width="100%" height="166" scrolling="no" frameborder="no" src="http://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F10083274&#038;show_artwork=true"></iframe></p>
<p><a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/files/2012/03/shapeways-1.jpg"><img src="http://createdigitalmusic.com/files/2012/03/shapeways-1-640x410.jpg" alt="" title="shapeways-1" width="640" height="410" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-23061" /></a></p>
<div class="imgcaption">Okay, not everyone wants a new iPhone case (or owns an iPhone), but you have to admit, this interface is cool. You go directly from a sound you&#8217;ve uploaded to a physical object. And they say music is intangible. (Seen here with a track of mine, though it does work nicely with a short, percussive sample like Caroline&#8217;s.)</div>
<p>And if you do want to sport your sounds on an iPhone case, check out the cool Shapeways app. (And this might just give you other 3D printing or laser-cutting ideas, so go for it.)</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.shapeways.com/creator/thevibe">http://www.shapeways.com/creator/thevibe</a></strong></p>
<p>More on some of the other SoundCloud news soon.</p>
<p><em>You can visit CDM&#8217;s editor <a href="http://soundcloud.com/peterkirn">on SoundCloud</a>, of course. Lots of people send tracks, so if you share your work, send a note to go with it, please!</em></p>
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		<title>Not a Tablet: Android-Powered Touch Music Keyboard is Just for Music</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looking a bit like the love child of a Nintendo DS and a microKORG, the Miselu neiro is a different animal in mobile music. The upcoming device is powered by Android and has a touchscreen &#8211; a bit like a tablet &#8211; but it&#8217;s hardware dedicated to music-making, complete with a compact, piano-layout keyboard. The &#8230; <a class="btn read-more" href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/03/not-a-tablet-android-powered-touch-music-keyboard-is-just-for-music/">Continue &#8594;</a>]]></description>
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<p>Looking a bit like the love child of a Nintendo DS and a microKORG, the Miselu neiro is a different animal in mobile music. The upcoming device is powered by Android and has a touchscreen &#8211; a bit like a tablet &#8211; but it&#8217;s hardware dedicated to music-making, complete with a compact, piano-layout keyboard. The gamble is that people wanting to make mobile music will choose this dedicated device instead of a general-purpose gadget like an iPad.</p>
<p>Whether they can pull it off or not is a big question, but in the meantime, the specs are intriguing. And it&#8217;s worth mentioning now, because if you&#8217;re reading this from Austin, Texas, there&#8217;s still time to check out the Miselu in person at SoundCloud&#8217;s open house. (I&#8217;m in Berlin, so I just have to pour myself a beer, stare at the gallery, and munch on some barbeque and pretend.)</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what we know:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Connected:</strong> The creators call it a &#8220;network-enabled mobile companion,&#8221; so online connections and &#8220;social&#8221; interaction are part of the plan. That includes, out of the gate, SoundCloud.</li>
<li><strong>Internal DSP:</strong> The neiro will include the Yamaha AudioEngine Series Sound Chip NSX-1, a dedicated DSP for synthesis and signal processing. (Now, the creators say that &#8220;almost matches the sound of real musical instruments,&#8221; but while DSP chips add predictable horsepower, native processing remains competitive.)</li>
<li><strong>I/O:</strong> Product mock-ups show USB (2x), HDMI, audio in and out (stereo minijacks), and, in a nod to the Atari ST, dedicated MIDI DIN jacks. There&#8217;s also an SD card slot.</li>
<li><strong>Custom software:</strong> Retronyms, makers of the popular iOS modular app Tabletop, have already revealed that they&#8217;ll be doing a custom app for this platform; see their <a href="http://blog.retronyms.com/2012/03/sxsw-announcement-retronyms-miselu.html">blog post on the announcement</a> and image below. (Thanks to Freesoulvw for the tip!)</li>
<li><strong>Platform:</strong> The hardware is an &#8220;open platform environment&#8221; that will run custom apps and &#8220;solutions,&#8221; say the creators. Exactly what that means, we&#8217;ll have to see, but of course Android does offer application deployment possibilities (even outside of Google&#8217;s Android Market, now called Google Play).</li>
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<p><a href="http://www.miselu.com/products/">http://www.miselu.com/products/</a></p>
<p><iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/38145547?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0&amp;color=737373" width="640" height="360" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe><span id="more-23038"></span></p>
<p>Before the Android aspect of this invites skepiticsm, the big challenge with Android has been unpredictability with OEM-delivered hardware. While the audio API doesn&#8217;t work in the way many of us would like, if you <em>do</em> have dedicated hardware with predictable performance, you can side-step many of those problems, so the possibility of music-focused gear has always been interesting.</p>
<p>I think the real challenge is whether this keyboard can stand up to an iPad in a custom keyboard housing. Akai recently demonstrated the clever solution of adding a 4&#215;4 set of MPC-style drum pads just by designing them into an iPad case. In order to compete, Miselu will have to do something unique both with the hardware and software add-ons; they have to actually be <em>better</em> at what the iPad does, not just &#8220;as good.&#8221;</p>
<p>On the other hand, just looking at the ports they&#8217;ve got on the prototype could easily make you drool. If they nail the hardware and get this out the door, there could be some real possibilities with this.</p>
<p>Of course, there&#8217;s far more we don&#8217;t know than do know about this, but that just means it&#8217;ll be interesting to watch. See some pictures, teaser video, and check out the site.</p>
<p><a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/files/2012/03/miselu-neiro-02.jpg"><img src="http://createdigitalmusic.com/files/2012/03/miselu-neiro-02-640x360.jpg" alt="" title="miselu-neiro-02" width="640" height="360" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-23045" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/files/2012/03/miselu-neiro-03.jpg"><img src="http://createdigitalmusic.com/files/2012/03/miselu-neiro-03-640x360.jpg" alt="" title="miselu-neiro-03" width="640" height="360" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-23046" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/files/2012/03/neiro-xox.jpg"><img src="http://createdigitalmusic.com/files/2012/03/neiro-xox.jpg" alt="" title="neiro-xox" width="560" height="481" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-23051" /></a></p>
<div class="imgcaption">Okay, now we&#8217;re interested. Yes, it&#8217;ll have a tasty-looking xox drum sequencer, courtesy (previously iOS-only mobile) devs Retronyms.</div>
<p>I missed the chance to write about it, but I&#8217;d be curious to know if anyone is picking up a KDJ-ONE, a Linux-powered dedicated music-maker that seemed a bit like the love child of an oversized <em>classic</em> Game Boy and a tracker, as seen last year <a href="http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2011/05/27/kdj-one-mobile-audio-workstation-sneak-preview/">on Synthtopia</a>. (They exhibited again this year at NAMM, as Chris Randall reminds me in comments.)</p>
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